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which amp to use?


bjboertje
03-02-2005, 01:08 PM
I am looking at two amps: the Boss RIP-896 and the Boss PD-2000. The subs I am hooking it up to will be two Volfenhag ZX4712s. Which amp would work best, also would it be OK to mount the amp vertically? This is my first system so any sugguestions would be helpful.

sr20de4evr
03-02-2005, 01:09 PM
Boss is not a good brand, you'll have nothing but problems if you go with them. The same can be said for Volfenhag, but if you already have them then it's a little late for that. How much do you want to spend on an amp for these?

bjboertje
03-02-2005, 01:12 PM
Boss is not a good brand, you'll have nothing but problems if you go with them. The same can be said for Volfenhag, but if you already have them then it's a little late for that. How much do you want to spend on an amp for these?

I don't want to spend over 200 on an amp, don't have the subs yet

sr20de4evr
03-02-2005, 01:19 PM
well then I guess it depends on how much power you need, $200 is high enough to get something reasonable in most power ranges, unless you're looking for a kW or more. Are you willing to change the sub choice? If so I would recommend it, but again we would need a price range to recommend a good replacement.

bjboertje
03-02-2005, 02:39 PM
no more than $200 on the amp, no more than $200 on the subs+box. what do you sugguest, looking for around 1000 w/max, 500 w/rms per sub

ngsm13
03-02-2005, 03:15 PM
no more than $200 on the amp, no more than $200 on the subs+box. what do you sugguest, looking for around 1000 w/max, 500 w/rms per sub

I'd look into some Incriminator Audio 187's. www.incriminatoraudio.com

As far as amps, look into Profile, JBL, Lanzar, etc. peace

NG

bjboertje
03-02-2005, 03:34 PM
those are not powerful enough, and also too expensive, if you find a sub with 1000 w/peak under $70 let me know. the volfenhags are the best i see so far

Mannyb18b
03-02-2005, 03:58 PM
OMG. trust me, listen to us. Your 1000w/ subs under 70bucks are pure SHIT. Volfenhag, Pyle an all that shit your lookin at is GARBAGE. 187's would kill em. Listen to NG

ponchonutty
03-03-2005, 07:57 AM
no more than $200 on the amp, no more than $200 on the subs+box. what do you sugguest, looking for around 1000 w/max, 500 w/rms per sub


http://www.directed.com/coms.asp

Look at the Extreme line. They'll be right where you want to be money wise. They are a little better than what you are looking at. More importantly, they'll do what they say they will do!

Go with 2 Extreme 12" subs and the 1500x
mono block sub amp.

threedd97
03-03-2005, 10:06 AM
If you put 1000w to those subs you'll dig those subs their own grave.

bjboertje
03-03-2005, 10:11 AM
i am looking at some subs + box at a local pawn shop. the guy has some boss, audiobahn, and rockford, listed in price from least to most. would the boss be a decent system?

95cord
03-03-2005, 10:49 AM
i wouldn't go with the boss, at least go with audiobahn they are a better known company with better products.

ngsm13
03-03-2005, 12:01 PM
those are not powerful enough, and also too expensive, if you find a sub with 1000 w/peak under $70 let me know. the volfenhags are the best i see so far
I forgot to list that you have to CALL for direct pricing! It's MUCH cheaper than listed MSRP and it'll fit in your budget. Also, the 187's will MURDER anything listed in this thread PERIOD.

i am looking at some subs + box at a local pawn shop. the guy has some boss, audiobahn, and rockford, listed in price from least to most. would the boss be a decent system?
They all suck, but THE LEAST sucky would be the RF's.

See, you came here for advice from people WHO KNOW MORE THAN YOU. You ask, and refuse to take our advice. PLEASE DO NOT make a mistake...if you heard a system done right you'd know that any of the brands you've asked about suck balls, period. peace

NG

bjboertje
03-03-2005, 02:03 PM
sorry, i really don't want to go over the net for subs, never done that before. do you know how much the 187s would cost that way?

95cord
03-03-2005, 02:10 PM
They all suck, but THE LEAST sucky would be the RF's.

See, you came here for advice from people WHO KNOW MORE THAN YOU. You ask, and refuse to take our advice. PLEASE DO NOT make a mistake...if you heard a system done right you'd know that any of the brands you've asked about suck balls, period. peace

NG[/QUOTE]

Why would you say rockford sucks? Rockford is a well respected company. maybe the punch and XLC's suck, but have you ever heard the power dvc's with a power punch class d 1000 watt amp pushing them. I had two 12" power dvc's in a v.t. box and 1000watt power punch amp, you could definitely hear me coming.

bjboertje
03-03-2005, 02:17 PM
I almost got two 12" fosgate power series 1200 watts in a subzero box for 140 bucks. then the guy backed out when i came with the money, it pissed me off. now i have to go with cheap subs because i don't have enough money.

95cord
03-03-2005, 02:22 PM
how much money exactly do you want to spend?

bjboertje
03-03-2005, 02:25 PM
about $200 on box and two subs

Mannyb18b
03-03-2005, 02:34 PM
build your own box and get a Atlas 15"

bjboertje
03-03-2005, 02:41 PM
i want two 12s not a 15

bjboertje
03-03-2005, 03:07 PM
what do you sugguest for two 12s and a box at about $200

threedd97
03-03-2005, 03:11 PM
sorry, i really don't want to go over the net for subs, never done that before. do you know how much the 187s would cost that way?

Every last one of us here have done it with 0 problems. I paid over $1,000 for my amp and sub and received both within a week. They both arrived in tact. I might add they were both top notch stuff I would NEVER find locally.

pimprolla112
03-04-2005, 12:06 AM
You dont need a ton of power to get alot of bass i had 2 12" infinity perfects i got on ebay 150 shipped last year and a profile ca600 i got for 100 shipped built a box and custom floor board for like 40 and the subs had clean bass but they still really hard for only 150 rms. I put a ca 1200 and we did a test on how far i would drive till they stopped hearing bass it was like 1.5 miles that was 300 rms. The best you listed so far is the rf but i would never buy subs from a pawn shop you dont know how the previous owner treated them, how much power and so on.

If you want a good sounding system your going to have to spend a few extra bucks in the long run you would be happier with the sound. I would buy it piece by piece headunit panasonic cq-dfx983u, subs, amp, then i got some mb quart 6x9's and infinity kappa 4x6 plates. It was well worth the money. I got all this a year back and spent like 750 for everything. Being that your cars a hatch will make a big difference to i went from a sedan to blazer and i heard bass i didnt know the subs had. Spend some extra money save it up and you can get a bitchin system.

ngsm13
03-04-2005, 12:23 AM
sorry, i really don't want to go over the net for subs, never done that before. do you know how much the 187s would cost that way?

They'd be plenty less than $200 shipped. AMAZING subs for the price...period.

Why would you say rockford sucks? Rockford is a well respected company. maybe the punch and XLC's suck, but have you ever heard the power dvc's with a power punch class d 1000 watt amp pushing them. I had two 12" power dvc's in a v.t. box and 1000watt power punch amp, you could definitely hear me coming.

Because, obviously you have NOT experienced anything else the CarAudio subwoofer world has to offer. IF they are at a pawn shop, I HIGHLY doubt it's anything from the power series. Only thing i'd ever touch would be RF Power Amps...and that's if they were given to me b/c I'm not paying what they charge.

AND the ATLAS 15 is also ANOTHER excellent option! It'll perform amazing. But if it were me, I'd get two 12" 187's and 600 watts RMS and drop them in 4cubes NET @34hz and you'll be AMAZED!!!! peace

NG

bjboertje
03-04-2005, 10:09 AM
the guy at the pawn shop says all his stuff is new, all his rockford is punch series.

ngsm13
03-04-2005, 11:45 AM
the guy at the pawn shop says all his stuff is new, all his rockford is punch series.

Well there ya go, what'd I say...the Punch series is shitty...period!

NG

pimprolla112
03-05-2005, 02:58 AM
Its very doubtful that anything from a pawn shop is new. You shouldnt have any problems on ebay or any other internet sites for that matter for audio. Like NG said punch series is shit, i wouldnt suggest the power series either unless you want to be fucked over on the price. If you really want to play it safe go through crutchfield or sounddomain with a price match, you will pay more than you want but if you want a good system your going to have to spend the extra money.

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