metro engine install and surge fix
Crvett69
03-01-2005, 11:18 PM
bought a 93 geo metro the other day that had a pretty noisy knock and smoked like crazy. i drove it home and prayed on the way home i wouldn't pass a cop because the thing was smoking like mad, used almost a quart of oil in 7 miles. anyway...bought one of those JDM engines ($300 with 1 year warrenty) pulled old engine out, swapped the intake and exhaust manifold over and dropped the new engine in, took about 5 hours to swap everything over and get it running (i love my new car hoist :-) )
found easiest way is to pull the engine and tranny as a unit and split it on the floor. after i got it in and new engine fired up at part throttle it would rev up and down about 500 rpm all by itself, wouldn't do it at idle or past 1/2 throttle. also check engine light wasn't on. unplugged the TPS ( that kicked the check engine light on) and tried throttle again, was doggy but no more surge so i grabbed a spare TPS i had on another throttle body swapped it over and it runs perfect now. sure glad i have a ton of spare parts, they wanted over $90 for a new one.
found easiest way is to pull the engine and tranny as a unit and split it on the floor. after i got it in and new engine fired up at part throttle it would rev up and down about 500 rpm all by itself, wouldn't do it at idle or past 1/2 throttle. also check engine light wasn't on. unplugged the TPS ( that kicked the check engine light on) and tried throttle again, was doggy but no more surge so i grabbed a spare TPS i had on another throttle body swapped it over and it runs perfect now. sure glad i have a ton of spare parts, they wanted over $90 for a new one.
tude123
03-01-2005, 11:35 PM
Way to go 'vette! Quick question, did you do your entire engine swapout in 5 hours? If it did you're a lot faster than I am. It usually takes me an entire weekend (including a new clutch kit).
Crvett69
03-02-2005, 02:13 AM
pull old one out (1 1/2 hour)
transfer intake, exhaust and clutch to new one (45 minutes)
install back in car (3 hours)
times are rough guess, took just over 5 hours total
transfer intake, exhaust and clutch to new one (45 minutes)
install back in car (3 hours)
times are rough guess, took just over 5 hours total
geozukigti
03-02-2005, 10:53 AM
I need a car hoist :( I did mine with a craftsman wrench set, all by my lonesome, lol. But, I had to change everything under the hood, so it took me about a week(2 hrs/day for a week) That engine technically is light for an engine, but when you're lifting it into the engine compartment all by yourself, DAMN, is it heavy :icon16:
Crvett69
03-02-2005, 11:23 AM
i do enough engine swaps that i have a engine hoist
papajoe2001
03-03-2005, 01:50 PM
Autozone wants $125 fo ra TPS. Does anyone have a spare they would like to get rid of cheaply? Apparrently I need you.
Crvett69
03-03-2005, 04:06 PM
what year metro do you have, i might have a spare
papajoe2001
03-03-2005, 04:10 PM
I have a '92 & '93, both convertibles, but the problem is with the '92. Sure hope you can help.
Crvett69
03-03-2005, 04:18 PM
will take a look in my spare parts bin and see what i have and make sure it matches the one on my 92 convertible. will post tonight what i find
papajoe2001
03-03-2005, 04:20 PM
Thanks, I appriciate it.
Crvett69
03-03-2005, 05:22 PM
i have 2 of the same style left, whats the part number on yours, should be 18590-?????
what are last 4 or 5 letters and numbers?
what are last 4 or 5 letters and numbers?
papajoe2001
03-03-2005, 05:32 PM
I'll look when I get home tonight. Thanks Crvett69
Crvett69
03-04-2005, 11:12 PM
find those numbers yet?
papajoe2001
03-07-2005, 09:38 AM
Sorry for the delay Crvette69, got called out of town unexpectidly. I will get the numbers this evening.
papajoe2001
03-12-2005, 12:29 PM
Crvett69 P/N is 198500-0450. Sorry again for delay. Just a bad week.
Crvett69
03-12-2005, 07:05 PM
ones i have are different numbers, sorry. will keep eyes open for correct one though
papajoe2001
03-15-2005, 03:27 PM
Swapped the TPS on the 92 w/ the TPS from the 93. Same P/N. Had the same results. Could it possible be the EGR? I did get an error code of 23, but don't know how this would effect the loss of power roblem.
Crvett69
03-15-2005, 04:19 PM
code 23 is intake air temp sensor bad. its the one that screws into the side of the air cleaner
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