Can Someone Knoledgeable Please Back Me Up

Read this post please and tell these guys......

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=373075&page=1&pp=15

lol. looks like you handled it by yourself. nice.

I hate people like that guy. He's so out of place in the argument that it's just silly. Obviously, he has no clue what he's talking about. But no worries, we all know who's got the nicer car :) *cough* you. Makes me want to meet him for a race just to show him what a stock (14b) dsm turbo can do :D

the only way to shut them up is to run it and get a time slip, until then they are not gonna believe you especially the mustang nazi...heh heh

run that bitch, and shut them up

i say you go stomp his stang.

and then let kevin rape him

i think i got the last word in on that thread.

Hehe, yeah you did, Scottsee. I feel sorry for the guy--saving $4k for a supercharger kit to have around 400 hp and run 12s (along with the rest of his mods). Reminds me how cheap and fast DSMs are :)

Not to bring up an old thread or start any trouble..but TatII cleared it up for me. And yes, I'm spending $4,000 on a supercharger kit so I can reliably run low 12s. But you guys wouldn't know anything about reliability. And that should remind you just how CHEAP your cars are.:) And yes, that's ontop of my 'other mods'. Such as my air freshener, my mustang floor mats, and of course my "MUSTANG" bumper inserts. :icon16: Thanks for playing, and if you have anything else to tell me..do so through PM so we don't have to piss off anyone else, okay? So you can direct all challenges/shit talk/and comments to PMs.

Not to bring up an old thread or start any trouble..but TatII cleared it up for me. And yes, I'm spending $4,000 on a supercharger kit so I can reliably run low 12s. But you guys wouldn't know anything about reliability. And that should remind you just how CHEAP your cars are.:) And yes, that's ontop of my 'other mods'. Such as my air freshener, my mustang floor mats, and of course my "MUSTANG" bumper inserts. :icon16: Thanks for playing, and if you have anything else to tell me..do so through PM so we don't have to piss off anyone else, okay? So you can direct all challenges/shit talk/and comments to PMs.

:loser: you suck :loser:

So you can direct all challenges/shit talk/and comments to PMs.

Since you certainly did :rolleyes:

And yes, I'm spending $4,000 on a supercharger kit so I can reliably run low 12s.

Have fun with "reliable" low 12s, because it doesn't exist.

But you guys wouldn't know anything about reliability. And that should remind you just how CHEAP your cars are.

The smiley face after that just doesn't change the meaning of what you wrote. After you get your supercharger, come back and talk shit. Until then, rest assured that there are 10+ users in this forum with "cheap" cars that could wax you. Get the fuck out of our forum unless you have something worthwhile to contribute.

Will do. And if you wanna wax my car, go ahead. It could use a nice wash and wax. All this damn road salt...

Ok everyone needs to just stop arguing back and forth. This stuff is pathetic. Who cares if you "will" have a 12 second mustang. His car will still whoop your ass from start to finish... There was a reason the other thread was locked... Because you wouldnt listen and STFU!

Now if your still going to come into the Eclipse forum and brag how he will never beat your mustang, I suggest you get the dildo out your ass cause it wont get you nowhere! Basically what I am trying to say is you got fucked. You were wrong, he was right. Go back to your mustang forum before you end up banned.

Not to bring up an old thread or start any trouble..but TatII cleared it up for me. And yes, I'm spending $4,000 on a supercharger kit so I can reliably run low 12s. But you guys wouldn't know anything about reliability. And that should remind you just how CHEAP your cars are.:) And yes, that's ontop of my 'other mods'. Such as my air freshener, my mustang floor mats, and of course my "MUSTANG" bumper inserts. :icon16: Thanks for playing, and if you have anything else to tell me..do so through PM so we don't have to piss off anyone else, okay? So you can direct all challenges/shit talk/and comments to PMs.

You started shit in the other thread, and now you started it here. I'm all for a mustang vs. DSM argument, but do it like an adult. I'm a big fan of the 03 cobra, and the complaint I hear most is how cheap the interior is. Both turbo DSMs and supercharged Mustangs are based on their cheaper counterpart. Make some stronger arguments. Lastly, don't argue "a car i dont have" vs. "your car". Savior's car is faster than yours, and "my friend's car" is faster than the 03 cobra you talk shit about, too.

I can convince the DSMers not to bash Mustangs like a 12 year old, do the same for yourself.

Well you guys seem to have taken everything I've said in a totally wrong way. Savior knows I don't have anything against him. I was just calling it like I saw it. And apparently I saw it wrong. I'll admit that. That all started because I said his car reminded me of a grape push up. I wasn't trying to talk shit. You can't deny it does look like a grape push up. And apparently I pissed him off..then I started bringing things up about his videos. I said it was probably a low 13s/high 12s car. I said I know it will beat my car. Now my friend TatII says it looks like a 12 second car. The 03/04 cobra is also a 12 second car. Now how's he going to claim to rape a car that runs the same 1/4 as he does? I never initially brought up my car VS saviors car. Someone brought my car into it. I never said my car was faster than saviors. But I did inform that one guy that it would have a supercharger on it as soon as I managed another $900. If you want a cobra VS GSX debate..I'm in. But I'm not trying to get banned or anything. So if I'm crossing the line just let me know and I'll never post in this thread/possibly never the eclipse forum again.

I didn't know I understood anything wrong... but I did read all 9 pages of the other thread and you said something to the tune of "I'd like to eat your car" in which he said "you wouldn't eat my car...check out my videos"

As for his car vs. an 03 cobra. For the record the cobra runs high 12's...12.9 is car and driver. 390 flywheel horsepower is a piece of cake for a turbo that is rated at 600awhp. Add AWD traction, I don't see where a 12.9 car beats a 60-1 eclipse.

The only way you'll get in trouble is if you make posts like the other one in this thread. I don't see how your opinion if my car is CHEAP has to do with how fast the cars are.

EDIT>> It's hard to say how fast his car exactly is. Nobody dynos a 60-1 at 16psi, much less any turbo that isn't near maxed out. There are AWD 2g's running low 11's, full weight with 470hp. A member of this site, 95 GSXracer, did 120mph traps on pump gas and a 60-1. 12.9@110 isn't there yet. Most good runs at 120mph are mid 11's. Just putting some thoughts together.

Okay, the turbo can handle 600hp...but is his car running 600hp? I'm still confused as to what he's actually running. First he said 12s..then it was all the way down to high 10s. I just recall him saying he ran 12s..then him saying he rapes cobras.

Oh yeah..and it went like this:

Me: You know those like..flintstones push ups ice cream things? Your car reminds me of the grape ones. And whenever I look at it I can't stop thinking about eatting one. Mmmmm.

Him: Hey, don't make fun of my purple car. Damn you.

Noctorum: Well he's got a point :p

Me: haha, I'm not hatin'..I'm just saying..I wouldn't mind eatting a grape push up. And my mustang wouldn't mind eatting a grape eclipse. :devil: :p

Civracer95: :rofl: Owned-sorry no pic for this one. I'll find one though. L8...

Him: ....... actually this eclipse will kinda destroy your stang. This car eats cars that would destroy you, such as LS1's, Cobras (03's included), 05 Mustang Gts, and M3's (as seen in my video in the other thread. Maybe you should watch it.), Evo's, and Sti's. Sorry, but you won't be satisfying your hunger on this one :naughty:.

Me: 03 cobras run mid 12s. Time slips please? I saw your videos and your car didn't look like a 12 second car to me.

So, as you can see..that all started because I had to go and say his car reminded me of a pushup..then make a bad joke. Then he started bragging about what his car can destroy..so I asked for proof. So really..I don't think I was doing anything wrong. Then I brought up how I thought that video looked kind of rigged. Which it did, until I realized the camera man was zooming in on the launch. Making it look incredibly weak. And sorry for quoting pretty much the whole first page of that thread.

fuck it all ready.

Shit dude...I let it go back in the original thread. But somebody had to get the last word..and then continue talking shit in a new thread. Sounds like some people want this to go on forever. :rolleyes:



BTW: If a mod would just go ahead and lock this thread...this could end. Thanks.

.... oh my gosh he's still talking about this, I though this was over. Look, I'll break this down for you. Purchased my 1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX for 10,800 dollars. Total amout of money I've spend for my modifications is $5,236.47. Thats a total of about 16,000 dollars total spend on my car (mods and car included) My car is not properly tuned to run over 15 psi. I could run 25+ psi if I was willing to spend a day or two tuning it with DSMLink. But I'm lazy and I still daily drive her. Don't want it daily driven under that pressure. So with my large Garrett turbo (60-1), my tuning at the moment, and my current driver abilities, I am capable of running mid-low 12 sec times. (Not yet 11's or 10s). But without spending anymore money, I could tune that sum bitch, turn up the boost to 25+psi, and turn that 12 sec daily driver car, into an 11 possibly high 10 sec car. Thats why I say my car is 11-10 sec capible.

Now Mustang GT's are decent cars, Hell, I used to have a V6 before I traded it in for this. And I loved it very much. So I'm not really bias against stangs. But, Dollar for dollar, Dsm's have better times for the money spent. Using a little more than your 4000 dollars. I have made a car that can run almost 2 secs faster than you will be running after you pay for your mods, if I really wanted it to.

Also you said reliable 12's. Now when I was looking for mustang information back when I had one, I found out that GT's like to break rears once they get up into 12's and faster........ thats not to reliable if you ask me. Now the only thing unrealiable us DSMer's have is the C word (crankwalk), which not all of us get. Just a select and unlucky few (sorry guys :)) Also, the 4G63 has been known to take 500+ hp on Bone Stock Internals. Thats pretty reliable if you ask me.

You also called our cars cheap. Come on now, You actually think that your mustang is put together better than an eclipse? Like I said, I used to own a mustang. And my Girlfriends dad works at Fritts Ford out here in riverside. I see GT's all the time. Abosolutly nothing on a mustang is put together better than on a eclipse. When you buy a mustang Gt, all your paying for is an engine (which is not that impressive compared to other V8's such as an LS1 or even a V6 like the VQ in 350z's), not creature comforts. The seats suck, the Shifter is placed HORRIBLE, pedal placement sucks, And Ford does almost as bad things to plastic as GM.

Look, the whole thing started becuase you said that you wouldn't mind eating me. I was telling you that you couldn't eat me, and telling you why you couldn't. Look man, please lets end this. My car has beat those cars. My car will beat your car. And even after you spend the 4000-5000 (don't forget the price for the slicks you will be needing), I will still beat your car.

Actually, they'll break axles on the stock motor with just drag radials/4.10s. But as long as they're not catching traction..my rearend is fine. I can spin my way to low 12s. And if I want, I could save up another $800 for 31 spline axles/31 spline differential..$500 tops for some drag radials..and run 11s all day. That's $5300. You spent $5200. Not to mention I overestimated some of the prices. Okay, now you can say my car is more expensive..lower miles, newer car, etc. So your car isn't that much cheaper.

BTW: That would make mine an 11 second daily driver.

haha..you know..I never brought my car into this. you guys did in the other thread. But once asked about it, of course I unveiled my plans for a supercharger. I admit, calling yours car cheap was a cheap shot.

look. Tampax, i mean Dampachi. everyone your debating this topic with has experience with the 4g63 through research and wrench time. if you havent noticed were not newbezzz's and agree to dissagree with your comments and bench racing tatics.

we have no were to go, were in our Eclipse forum your going to need to wrap this up sometime becasue we ain't going anywhere.

come on now tampax, your not still upset about what i said are you?

:lol: just leave already, you lost game over.

Actually, they'll break axles on the stock motor with just drag radials/4.10s. But as long as they're not catching traction..my rearend is fine. I can spin my way to low 12s. And if I want, I could save up another $800 for 31 spline axles/31 spline differential..$500 tops for some drag radials..and run 11s all day. That's $5300. You spent $5200. Not to mention I overestimated some of the prices. Okay, now you can say my car is more expensive..lower miles, newer car, etc. So your car isn't that much cheaper.

BTW: That would make mine an 11 second daily driver.
I spent 5200, for a setup that could possibly run 600hp (TO ALL THE WHEELS), if I wanted to turn up the boost and tune it. Also, some of the price I paid (1020.27) was in labor fees because I didn't trust myself with doing that kind of work, so I had a Mitsu mechanic do it for me. And yes calling our cars cheap was pretty bad, considering that you don't own anything like a BMW. Now how about this gets put to rest.

Edit....... Also, 1st gen AWD DSM's have been known to break into 12-11's for only 1800 dollars man. Talk about bang for your buck.

humm when i price your parts out just from memory i get a little more then $5200 for the parts alone. Good By! ohh and that goes for you too tampax

Okay, byebye pussy. I mean..scottsee. And I agree, it's over Savior. I'm still cool with you.

Ok finally. Good debate everyone, and thanks for the support.

The reason it's gone on is because dampachi keeps saying a few things that aren't true:
1. "I never brought my car into this". Bullshit, you said "I WOULDNT MIND EATING YOUR CAR" aka. my car could beat yours. You started it all, you brought your car vs. his car.
2. "He said he could run 12's then 10's and has 600hp" No, he didn't. OTHER PEOPLE said the turbo was capable of 10's and 600whp. That's true. Nobody said he ran anything but 12's or had any amount of power.

So, as you can see..that all started because I had to go and say his car reminded me of a pushup..then make a bad joke. Then he started bragging about what his car can destroy..so I asked for proof. So really..I don't think I was doing anything wrong. Then I brought up how I thought that video looked kind of rigged. Which it did, until I realized the camera man was zooming in on the launch. Making it look incredibly weak. And sorry for quoting pretty much the whole first page of that thread.

Correction: you talked shit and said your car was faster, then you made people say the video was rigged, then you converted the WHOLE argument into 03 cobra vs. his car.. then once that was defeated, you turned it into "I'm trying to be a good guy and stop arguing, but they won't let it end."

It's over because you can't even remember your initial position, not because you solved the problem.

that would make an 11 second daily driver

No it wouldn't. Running an 11 at the track with drag radials doesn't make you an 11 second car on street tires. It makes you a 12 second tire spinner, just like an 03 cobra :)

I used to Own a Mustang....then i got a real car :smokin:

Actually, they'll break axles on the stock motor with just drag radials/4.10s. But as long as they're not catching traction..my rearend is fine. I can spin my way to low 12s. And if I want, I could save up another $800 for 31 spline axles/31 spline differential..$500 tops for some drag radials..and run 11s all day. That's $5300. You spent $5200. Not to mention I overestimated some of the prices. Okay, now you can say my car is more expensive..lower miles, newer car, etc. So your car isn't that much cheaper.

BTW: That would make mine an 11 second daily driver.

Ok douche bag... You go spend your $5300 and run 11s on your V8! You have twice as many cylinders, twice as much displacement... But yet you are still slower than a little 4 cylinder with lets money into it! Oh and another thing... can you get 350-400 miles to a tank of gas? (14 gallons)

Just admit it, your mustang blows! Go back to your little mustang forum. If this thread gets locked because of you... You will be taking a vacation from this site for a little while (banned)!

If you dont understand what BANNED means and want to keep posting shit like you have, then go right ahead, you will find out sooner or later!

shit i get 200 a tank in all city driving. but it takes me almost a month to go that far.

ps. i hear that dsmlink it hireing. anyone need a job?

Oh no! I have such a big motor yet I can't even beat a little four cylinder. PLUS you get better gas mileage. Wow. I can't tell you how many ricers I've heard that one from. But you have AWD. How unfair. :(

And I never said "My car will beat your car." I said I wouldn't mind eatting a grape pushup..and my mustang wouldn't mind eatting a grape eclipse. It was a joke. He knew it was a joke. I know it was a joke. Everybody knew that was a joke. That's why he added "your mustang wont be satisfying your hunger on this eclipse" and "my car would whoop yours" or something like that. I didn't say anything back to that. You know why? Because it's true! He could rape my car, no problem. And he should be able to..what with the turbo, AWD, and all those other mods. But he said he raped cobras. Thats where I started the cobra VS his car arguement. Because I didn't think he could. Oh no, I disagreed with him. How dare I. Then after talking to him..and TatII..I realized it was very possible for him to able to beat cobras. The end.

ps. i hear that dsmlink it hireing. anyone need a job?

There's no way I could USE all of the functions in DSMlink, much less make them.

Why are they hiring anyways? My only guess is that they need some extra help because of all the traffic that the new 1g platform has brought in.

Eclipse RST is the comeback king :)

Ok there is a kid at my school with an 03 cobra and he respectably lost to an 89 comaro and then that comaro lost to a gst so im assuming it is possible for this kids gsx to beat you without him having to prove a slip to you? am i correct?

namoR, i dont think you read the original thread.. don't start anything back up... that's not proof in ANY form.

Uh...helllo, Joe? The Transitive Property of Equality applies to street racing as well.

You think the Mustang guy who started this argument is smart enough to understand this? Either his head explodes or he googles...

Just going to cause more bickering...

But it brings back the good ol' algebra days


Edit>> OT: It's my 21st B-Day! And I'm drinking.

I figured you were kidding.

yeah. they are running behind on the socketing services. the 1g ver gave them more bussiness then they expected. thats flow they didnt expect over and above there current business. i dont know he just told me they needed more people there, that they might need to hire somone for around the shop.

Why dosn't this AF fourm have an ignore button?

Af does have an ignor list. It's in the User CP

I was kidding, GSX_hooptie ;)

RazKaz, when did you get a turbo 1g? :confused:

;) It's not. It's still my N/A Talon with the 4g63 cyclone engine swap. Still waiting for spring time to finally get a turbo'd DSM

LOL....Oh my god what did i miss? hahahahaha

LOL....Oh my god what did i miss? hahahahaha

not much