new here, looking for a supra in Nj area

I use to have TT Z and it rocked. I sold it because of allt he tickets i got. I tried to sign onto supra forums but the site is being moved so hopefully i can get help here.

I read a bit about the trannys, heard the autos are good. I am a stick man myself but i found a 96 supra auto targa with 81k for 15999 at a dealer real close, I checked the car out and its in great shape. questions.......... what are the differences in the N/A supra and the TT supra motor? can i slap a turbo on the N/A? prolly need low comp pistons? what are the differences if any in the TT and n/a motors?

is it really a big difference between the auto and stick?

did they have diff year trannys or are all the manuals 6 speed?????? I have seen 5 speed son ebay?how are the manuals and are the clutches prone to slipping? My 300zx had a problem with wearing out the clutches fast it was the one flaw of the 300zx TT. I need to know the DOWNLOW on this car so i can make a wise decision. I have raced supras in my Z and was wondering what anyones feelings are about the handling of the supra? I pulled away from this guy in the turns the sightest bit with my rear end powersliding around a turn at about 90 mph creeping by him on the outside. SO i guess there pretty good. I feel the Z probably handles better because of the super hicas(rear wheel steering). there so close though its splitting hairs. plus i had a TTZ now i want a targa supra, I just got insurance quotes for both na and TT so i am very serious and def want some advice and tech info. if supra forums wasnt dsown im sure i could find it there. but im here so hook a brotha up!

thankS

well lets see.. supra can outhandle the 300 if the driver knows how to drive... they pull .98Gs on a skid pad.. thats better than a porche... the 2005 C6 corvette gets 1.00Gs now, so they got better...

this is a good site to start off with www.mkiv.com

Supra are very reliable... think of another car that can put down 800+ horsies from stock internal engine? thats right NONE!

6 speed trannies only came on TT cars, if you see a 5 speed car its N/A no turbo... Yes the compression is different, also the intake is set up differently and the gears are different on non turbo supra, so they are pretty much different cars, one supra is for looks the other supra is to back those looks up like a big boy!! but people on the street cant tell the difference, so they dont know if its TT or N/A unless they know the little details to look for.

Difference between AT and Stick, thats all that is AT and Stick.. the AT does have that manual shift without the clutch option tho.. i think it does, i might be wrong. Its more of a prefference if you want a stick or AT i preffer stick, in my opinion all sport cars should be Stick, if you cant drive a stick dont buy a sports car :)

I dont know about the clutches wearing out fast, didnt hear anything bad about those... the TRD makes really awesome clutches, to bad they are pricy, but worth it.. they have the single double and triple plates, depending on the HP you are putting down and so forth.

There is no downfall on a supra... any angle you look from its a superior car thats why its called a supra :) i mean yea these cars are 10-7 years old so obvious stuff with start breaking and need to be replaced, but as far as engine being reliable... yes VERY!! the most i have seen on a TT supra was 262k miles haha, this was mostly freeway miles, but still!! specially on a TT engine.

if you are tlaking about supraforums.com then god luck because it doesnt take anymore new members there... which supra forum were you talking about?

Hope this is some useful info for you.

thanks for your help. All im gonna say in defens for the TT z is that it hanldes just as good if not better then a supra. ive raced a few, unless i just have mroe balls then the other guys, but i think racing in and out of traffice at 120mph with a supra shows he has balls as well. lets leave it at, they are very similar in handling.

now, how about turbo upgrades for a NA, how much? will a auto handle it? up to how much HP. whats the pros and cons of the auto? thing is theres one up the road from me n a car lot for 15.9 and 81k, in mint shape, leather int. I did my insurance quotes on it and they are similar form tt to na.. so thats not the problem, but finding one is hard. whats the Hp of a na and a tt stock? i know the 300zx tt was 300HP out of the showroom.

I am a stick driver, but if you only knew how many tickets i have gotten. if speed wasnt a law breaking issue id have a clean record. unlike alot of people who drive fast and crash. wish they had liscences that gave you different classes for speed. hahahaha.

so in esscence i think maybe a utop na might be beteer and later on turbo it. but i may regret this, what does everyone think?

I hope your not serious, "racing" in and out of traffic is not racing, it's stupid and it's a good way to get someone else hurt. Bragging about the number of tickets you have received is just as stupid, speed limits are there for a reason no matter how good of a car you have or how good you think you can drive. Why don't you join the SCCA and see how good (or more likely bad) of a driver you really are. :disappoin

ok, I'm here :)

The differences between a TT and a n/a are very simple. NA is stout but lacks the durability of a TT. The internals on a TT are almost bulletproof but the weak point of the motor are the rods and wrist pins. Ethier way if your shooting for major HP #'s your going to be looking at a rebuild so buying a n/a will still be fine at this point. The transmission will not hold in a auto after about 400-500HP.
The auto and manual debate is a good one, it just depends on what you want. I chose to go with an auto simply because it is faster, and it's not about the transmission, it's the gearing that's in the auto's that make it faster. Granted the 6spd is going to be faster after you hit about 160mph but honestly, where are you going to go where you want to go that fast besides a track? The n/a came at about 200HP to the ground and the TT came at about 300hp to the ground.
Honestly it depends on what you want out of the car. It will cost more to build a n/a, but do-able. Chances of finding one for a descent price is unlikely but do-able as well.
I have both right now and I can assure you that a TT is much better than the n/a if your talking about speed wise. It will take less money in my oppinion. Any more questions, let me know. Good luck.

Specifications: Supra Turbo Stock-VS- Specifications: 300ZX TT stock.

# Engine Type: I-6t # Engine Type: V-6t
# 0-60 mph: 5.3 seconds # 0-60 mph: 6.0 seconds
# Horse Power: 320 hp @ 5,600 rpm. # Horse Power: 300 hp
# 1/4 Mile: 13.7 seconds # 1/4 Mile: 14.4 seconds
# Top Speed: 155 mph # Top Speed: 155 mph
# Braking from 60 mph: 122 ft. # Braking from 60 mph: 124 ft.
# Braking from 80 mph: 208 ft. # Braking from 80 mph: 219 ft.
# Skidpad: 0.98 g # Skidpad: 0.88 g
# Slalom: 65.4 mph # Slalom: 63.0 mph
# Fuel Mileage: 18.8 mpg # Fuel Mileage: 18.7 mpg
# MSRP: $43,900 US # MSRP: $39, 500 US

looks like the supra owns more in some areas than other, specially in the 1/4 , the only thing 300ZX is good for it saving .1 on mpg :) and saving a few bucks for mods...

I hope your not serious, "racing" in and out of traffic is not racing, it's stupid and it's a good way to get someone else hurt. Bragging about the number of tickets you have received is just as stupid, speed limits are there for a reason no matter how good of a car you have or how good you think you can drive. Why don't you join the SCCA and see how good (or more likely bad) of a driver you really are. :disappoin
Wow your really one pissed of mofo hmm?

listen bud I dont care what you think if im being stupid for tickets and racing in traffic. I CAN GARAUNTEE, YOU are a HIPOCRIT, so youve never had your supra over the speed limit? HAHAHAHA YEA OK.

I have club raced with my Z up at watkins glen about 10 years ago. have come in top 5 everytime, and ive raced over 20 times with my bud in his club. I won 3 races but thats because this worked rx-7 was having fuel map trouble( 3 in a row). Man my friend ws pissed because i beat him everytime. Yes there were TT supras in the club as well and i beat a couple f them but there was one guy i could never get around he would pull me on every straight and i would gain on him in the turns.

with that said dont assume nothing, im not a run of the mill idiot punk. Sometimes it just feels right and you hit the hammer on the public roads. Also, I ended up selling my car because of the tickets i was BRAGGING about.:disappoin 85mph was like 65mph. Im sure saying what you said has touched a nerve of a few members on here. so i think you should just relax. I have raced mroe then just cars anyhow.

now back to the regularly scheduled thread :disappoin

gt500, looks like I was mislead, i thoguht the supra tt is 280? i guess thats a diff gen? I guess i had more balls then the other guy? btw the tops speed is wrong on the 300zx, i had mine up to 165 when it was stock. im sure the supra is just as fast if not faster. I stand correced ;)

MK, seen your post great knowledge, thanks.
so, you said it will take less money in your opinion? less for what?
Arent the single turbo kit almsot the same for both the na and TT? or is there more involved with one over the other? im looking for around 400hp out of the NA is it possible without turbo charging it? I read about the sc400 mass airflow and a couple other things. how bout maybe a fuel pump , full exhaust with headers cam swap bigger injectors, etc? what would be the best route? or should i just turbo it?

thanks for all your comments so far , even the nasty ones.

personally I agree with project on the street racing buit but it's none of my business what any of these people do or think, to each his own. With that being said.

yes, you probably could make 400hp out of a n/a and it not be turbo charged but it's less of a pain and stress to do it with a turbo kit on the stock internals, just don't get too boost happy with it. I would run 12psi on race gas and only on race gas, and about 8-9psi on pump to be safe. You will hav to upgrade the tranny and fuel system like before to be able to compensate for the boost, just as you would have to on a factory TT motor, but that's on a much larger turbo and running more boost. I'll explain more into detail if you need it.

ive decided to hold out until i find a supra TT 6 speed.

am i being dumb looking away from the auto TT?

is the TT auto a different tranny then the NA?