new nitrous oxide

hello all

well im new to this fourm and thought id post about somthing im working on. but first let me give you a little history. ive been into shade tree preformance mods and tuning for over 5 years now and upon installing a new zex nitrous kit on to my monte carlo i relized that the stock performance gains while impressive didnt justife the on going cost of filling my bottle ( 47 dollars for my 10lb bottle). so i invented a new way to do it.

ideal in a nut shell..


supercool atmospheric air into a liquid form and inject it into a motor same as nitrous.

how it was done..

over two years working on my own. i aquired a air compressor, a patent from the us patent office, cyrogenice dewar some copper tubing and a zex nitrous nozzle.
taking the copper tubing and shaping it into a coil so that both ends came out on the same end i placed the coil into the dewar which was filled with liquid nitrogen (avaliable at most welding supply stores for 1$ a liter) the copper acts as a heat sink and rapidly cools ambiet air into liquid form. liquid nitrogen is a -195 celsuis while oxygen liquifies at around -175 celsius. add a air compressor and about 50 psi and WHAM out comes liquid air. this was injected into my car and a freinds car on a dyno with a constant 9-12hp peak gain with no other tuning! (that means no added fuel ethier!!) now alot of pepole will want to post and say how liquid oxygen will make a motor explode and balh blah blah.. and yes pure liquid oxygen will make your motor explode, however liquidfied ambeit air will not!! i Know i have the dyno runs to prove it. any way im getting out of the military some will be low on funds to keep producing this prototype. any one interested in backing this project? also if you like this ideal tell everyone you know. i would hate to scrape this project just because i ran out of money.

the benifets
lasts way longer than nitrous ( about 3 weeks of constant use instead of 7 or 8 shots at the trackon a v8)

way cheaper (1$ a liter)

way safer ( no extrem pressure to deal with, a nitrous bottle in usually at 800 to 900 psi full!!)

all this for about a 50 dollar mark up on a regular zex kit.

any way i would like this forums thought questions and ideals on this. thanks

erik waters
fort walton beach florida
850-499-6416 feel free to call or email me if your interested in viewing or need more info

Um. I'm not chemically gifted or anything. But it's logical that a 100% oxygen compound would have a significantly larger HP boost than nitrous, which I believe is 33% oxygen.

Lest we forget, nitrous is far more safe than carrying a tank of nothing but accelerant in your car. I would *never* use liquified oxygen.

Cross-posting is a NO-NO.:nono:

soory for the cross posts didnt mean to put the second one up. as far as carrying 100% oxygen in a tank in a car every one is very right that is extremly dangrous. however if you read carfully you will see that thier is no "pure" liquid oxygen involved only liquidfied ambient air(70% nitrogen 20% oxygen and 10% other). as far has hp gains with 100% liquid oxygen you couldnt pay me enough money to try that. the resulting explosion in the combustion chamber would be extremly dangrous to every one. again soory for the cross post please see my other post in engineering/technical part of this fourum for what i hope is a full explantion of this project.

9-12 HP gain is all?

please read my other post in Engineering/Technical i will no longer be posting in here. its way to much effort to repaeat my self.

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