Nitrous
musicman181
02-26-2005, 01:17 AM
you all probaly still remember my post on a full soop job. and you guys gave me some good adivce but noone mentioned nitrous. why not?
about how much hp can i expect with the stage1 job under the hood. if this seems like a stupid quetion, remember, i dont know any better.
about how much hp can i expect with the stage1 job under the hood. if this seems like a stupid quetion, remember, i dont know any better.
guitarXgeek
02-26-2005, 02:00 AM
you all probaly still remember my post on a full soop job. and you guys gave me some good adivce but noone mentioned nitrous. why not?
about how much hp can i expect with the stage1 job under the hood. if this seems like a stupid quetion, remember, i dont know any better.
Although nitrous is known for being the absolute best bang for the buck (especially on top of a turbo), it can get fairly complicated and tuning can be a bitch. I would hold off on nitrous until you're comfortable tuning with just the turbo by itself :)
As for power numbers with nitrous, I've seen a 2g run ~11.7 on the stock t25 and a 75 shot of nitrous. Of course he had a fairly built motor, but it just goes to show you the sheer power of turbo+nitrous.
about how much hp can i expect with the stage1 job under the hood. if this seems like a stupid quetion, remember, i dont know any better.
Although nitrous is known for being the absolute best bang for the buck (especially on top of a turbo), it can get fairly complicated and tuning can be a bitch. I would hold off on nitrous until you're comfortable tuning with just the turbo by itself :)
As for power numbers with nitrous, I've seen a 2g run ~11.7 on the stock t25 and a 75 shot of nitrous. Of course he had a fairly built motor, but it just goes to show you the sheer power of turbo+nitrous.
tfoti
02-26-2005, 02:19 AM
And I quote..(that means I'm stating what YOU said)....
"if this seems like a stupid quetion, remember, i dont know any better"
Your a GUY..........what are you.....16 with your daddys keys and cedit card?
And what difference does it make what tranny I have? The last time I checked.....it dont down shift when I crank-up a bust-ass song!!!
:wtf:
"if this seems like a stupid quetion, remember, i dont know any better"
Your a GUY..........what are you.....16 with your daddys keys and cedit card?
And what difference does it make what tranny I have? The last time I checked.....it dont down shift when I crank-up a bust-ass song!!!
:wtf:
imtheoneandonlyD
02-26-2005, 10:39 AM
:wtf:
:iagree: :wtf:
whats with all the crazy ass newbies fighting.
:iagree: :wtf:
whats with all the crazy ass newbies fighting.
musicman181
03-01-2005, 01:30 PM
WTF is going on? what did any of that non sense have to do with my original post? does anyone else besides retarded ass people want to help me out?
scottsee
03-01-2005, 02:05 PM
musicman181. some of us dont come on here everyday. so future refrence when refuring to a previous post please Qutote your thread, or post a link for refrence. i dont know how to answer your question becasue i dont have the nessessary information to respond.
P.S. it's always better to bring back an old post then to start a new thread.
<EDIT> http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=366322&page=1&pp=15
In refrence to your old thread and your new question. the reason no one suggested Nitrous is becasue you dont have any supporting mods. let alone supporting mods for N02. if i were in your shoes, i'd suggest for your budget porting your manifold, o2 housing, 14b turbo, new oil lines, boost gauge, manual boost controller, $50 ebay intake (or Homedepot), $20 used 1g bov, dejon UICP, NKG plugs & wires, 3in mandrell $130 Down pipe w/ cat elimim (dsmtuner, ebay) muffler shop special 3in cat back (150-250), Pocket logger, and used afc2.
that should put you into the qulifing satages to give a trans a run for the $. and once you get your hands dirty youll understand the need for fuel mods to support the goals your looking for. there is just no way to hit 400hp without larger injectors, fuel pump, perferably a AFPR, and tunning!!
i think it would be good for you to spend a few days searcing AF & Dsmtuner to beter understand a few specifics.
even then your going to run into problems with heat soak with your smic trying to reach that goal.
P.S. it's always better to bring back an old post then to start a new thread.
<EDIT> http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=366322&page=1&pp=15
In refrence to your old thread and your new question. the reason no one suggested Nitrous is becasue you dont have any supporting mods. let alone supporting mods for N02. if i were in your shoes, i'd suggest for your budget porting your manifold, o2 housing, 14b turbo, new oil lines, boost gauge, manual boost controller, $50 ebay intake (or Homedepot), $20 used 1g bov, dejon UICP, NKG plugs & wires, 3in mandrell $130 Down pipe w/ cat elimim (dsmtuner, ebay) muffler shop special 3in cat back (150-250), Pocket logger, and used afc2.
that should put you into the qulifing satages to give a trans a run for the $. and once you get your hands dirty youll understand the need for fuel mods to support the goals your looking for. there is just no way to hit 400hp without larger injectors, fuel pump, perferably a AFPR, and tunning!!
i think it would be good for you to spend a few days searcing AF & Dsmtuner to beter understand a few specifics.
even then your going to run into problems with heat soak with your smic trying to reach that goal.
JoeWagon
03-01-2005, 08:01 PM
that post was deleted.
There are two types of people in my opinion that run nitrous: full built motor guy and pushing the limits guy. The first should be self explanatory, lots of money in the engine bay, and that they have their direct port nitrous going to a $600 manifold should be an indication if this can be you or not. The second guy, well.. he is known to run 550whp on stock internals, run 11's on a 14b, or try nitrous on a stock motor.
Stock motor nitrous is an option, but you have to realize you aren't adding an intake. In Alaska, nano ran 11.91 @ 114.4 on a T28/nitrous. Here's one of his posts I've read recently:
Nitrous on DSMs is some good sh#@T IMO. I could not belive what a huge difference it made. It made the little four banger into a low end torquey monster. Not to mention a 9.4mph gain from a dry 75shot.
As for the basic mods needed to be a near stock nitrous user... I have no idea.
There are two types of people in my opinion that run nitrous: full built motor guy and pushing the limits guy. The first should be self explanatory, lots of money in the engine bay, and that they have their direct port nitrous going to a $600 manifold should be an indication if this can be you or not. The second guy, well.. he is known to run 550whp on stock internals, run 11's on a 14b, or try nitrous on a stock motor.
Stock motor nitrous is an option, but you have to realize you aren't adding an intake. In Alaska, nano ran 11.91 @ 114.4 on a T28/nitrous. Here's one of his posts I've read recently:
Nitrous on DSMs is some good sh#@T IMO. I could not belive what a huge difference it made. It made the little four banger into a low end torquey monster. Not to mention a 9.4mph gain from a dry 75shot.
As for the basic mods needed to be a near stock nitrous user... I have no idea.
guitarXgeek
03-01-2005, 10:06 PM
I'd say all the basic bolt-ons (intake/IC/exhaust/etc), some form of logging/tuning, and a healthy motor (good compression, small leakdown %, no oil/coolant leaks, etc) would be fine to run a 50 shot of nitrous on. As with plain old turbos, tuning is KEY. When you add nitrous into the mix, tuning is even more important (and a little more complicated). I've never had personal experience with nitrous+turbo, but I know personally a few who have. Hell I might even run a 50 shot on top of my 14b someday :D
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