Prelude vs. S2000 [56k beware]
AcesHigh
02-24-2005, 07:27 PM
No, it isn't one of those stupid comparison threads. Or a story. More of a something-to-make-you-feel-better-about-your-car. Fourth gen Preludes are pretty much "the unloved ones" of the import world despite what a fabulous machine it is, and it shows it our aftermarket (which is crap). Which makes it a little delightful to find something like this.
So here you go, a fun little video with the JUN Prelude and the likes of S2000's, ATR's and CTR's, and the IS300. There is a little showdown at the end... its no heated battle, but still entertaining.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/13557204-med.jpg
The JUN Prelude is 270hp NA using the JUN goodies in this video.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/13557205-med.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/13557209-med.jpg
From the inside
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/13557213-med.jpg
A little bit of the engine bay.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/501/13557208-med.jpg
Here is the video:
http://www.superhonda.com/video/Togue%20Showdown%20280.wmv
Your ricer moderator thoroughly enjoyed it.
So here you go, a fun little video with the JUN Prelude and the likes of S2000's, ATR's and CTR's, and the IS300. There is a little showdown at the end... its no heated battle, but still entertaining.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/13557204-med.jpg
The JUN Prelude is 270hp NA using the JUN goodies in this video.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/13557205-med.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/13557209-med.jpg
From the inside
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/13557213-med.jpg
A little bit of the engine bay.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/501/13557208-med.jpg
Here is the video:
http://www.superhonda.com/video/Togue%20Showdown%20280.wmv
Your ricer moderator thoroughly enjoyed it.
del
02-24-2005, 08:15 PM
cool video. the prelude is definately underrated by a lot of people. but you'd be surprised how much props the prelude gets from non-honda enthusiasts compared to civics and tegs. it's a very well respected car, just a lot of people aren't familiar with them.
SiGNAL748
02-24-2005, 08:40 PM
Excellent Video :smokin:
Makes me wanna get some Jun cams. Although, I doubt they're very streetable :uhoh:
Makes me wanna get some Jun cams. Although, I doubt they're very streetable :uhoh:
tetrahydro
02-24-2005, 09:43 PM
thats bad ass how he got that much horsepower naturally aspirated, keep it clean.
Phunyguy
02-25-2005, 02:35 AM
i know how they got that much power from NA...
tuning, money, tuning, money, tuning, money, and... uhhh - did i mention tuning? what about money?
tuning, money, tuning, money, tuning, money, and... uhhh - did i mention tuning? what about money?
94PreludeJDM
02-25-2005, 09:54 AM
Haha, ditto Phunyguy. The guy in the video said they had been working on it and fine tuning it for like over two years. One of the reasons why it beat the S2000 was the suspension, which was custom made. Big dollars. I wish I could spend that kind of money on my car.
AcesHigh
02-25-2005, 09:59 AM
Well actually you guys, they're just using all the JUN parts. They're using the JUN ecu too, which they've already tuned to match the JUN springs, retainers, pistons, etc. And it looks fairly streetable to boot.
Needless to say I'm on the lookout for JUN goodies now.
Needless to say I'm on the lookout for JUN goodies now.
predude
02-25-2005, 10:17 AM
Well actually you guys, they're just using all the JUN parts. They're using the JUN ecu too, which they've already tuned to match the JUN springs, retainers, pistons, etc. And it looks fairly streetable to boot.
Needless to say I'm on the lookout for JUN goodies now.
oh oh they got you huh.... man they want your dollar now..this thing is a big business out there..
Needless to say I'm on the lookout for JUN goodies now.
oh oh they got you huh.... man they want your dollar now..this thing is a big business out there..
Gohan Ryu
02-25-2005, 02:23 PM
To repeat what's been said a million times...you get what you pay for. JUN, Mugen and Spoon are among the most expensive, and have been proven to provide the biggest hp gains. Quality costs money.
Prelewd
02-25-2005, 04:34 PM
Good video.. I was suprised to see the prelude beat some very well respected cars.
As for mugen and spoon.. From what i hear.. They might be of better quality than most, but like Nike, I think you are paying more for the name than anything.
As for mugen and spoon.. From what i hear.. They might be of better quality than most, but like Nike, I think you are paying more for the name than anything.
predude
02-25-2005, 05:18 PM
Good video.. I was suprised to see the prelude beat some very well respected cars.
As for mugen and spoon.. From what i hear.. They might be of better quality than most, but like Nike, I think you are paying more for the name than anything.
Yep.. like you said its good video. just like the movies they make in holywood...they can fake it. not that i wanna piss anyone but i think its just an infomercial so they can sell things..jun, mugen, spoon, and etc..
As for mugen and spoon.. From what i hear.. They might be of better quality than most, but like Nike, I think you are paying more for the name than anything.
Yep.. like you said its good video. just like the movies they make in holywood...they can fake it. not that i wanna piss anyone but i think its just an infomercial so they can sell things..jun, mugen, spoon, and etc..
94PreludeJDM
02-25-2005, 06:19 PM
It doesn't appear like an infomercial at all. It looks like a tuner show, just like you'd see on Speedvision or the Discovery Channel. Granted I do agree, Mugen, Spoon, JUN...they're probably the best, but they're still overpriced...granted I'd love to have parts from them.
Gohan Ryu
02-25-2005, 07:49 PM
Mugen, Spoon and JUN are more expensive because they do their own R&D (research and development) when they make their parts. R&D is expensive. Other cheap companies don't do any R&D, they just try to make copies of JUN, Mugen and Spoon parts.
exman98
02-25-2005, 11:55 PM
sweet vid
Master Hiko
02-26-2005, 02:53 AM
not that i wanna piss anyone but i think its just an infomercial so they can sell things..jun, mugen, spoon, and etc..
you've never heard of Best Motoring? think of C/D times 100 with professional drivers (not just some guy who likes cars). its not an infomercial at all. they test cars (stock/modded/touring) on tracks and touge. BM is the best, been watching/reading them for 6 years (before most people online even knew who they were).
you've never heard of Best Motoring? think of C/D times 100 with professional drivers (not just some guy who likes cars). its not an infomercial at all. they test cars (stock/modded/touring) on tracks and touge. BM is the best, been watching/reading them for 6 years (before most people online even knew who they were).
JDMgirly
02-26-2005, 03:31 AM
you've never heard of Best Motoring? think of C/D times 100 with professional drivers (not just some guy who likes cars). its not an infomercial at all. they test cars (stock/modded/touring) on tracks and touge. BM is the best, been watching/reading them for 6 years (before most people online even knew who they were).
been watching wrestling on TV for more than 6 years.. no doubt theyre fake ..but i like Trish Stratus.shes my favorite..
http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/graphics/wwfwom.jpg
Just like this car racing video..no doubt its fake..hard to believe prelude can beat the S2000.
been watching wrestling on TV for more than 6 years.. no doubt theyre fake ..but i like Trish Stratus.shes my favorite..
http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/graphics/wwfwom.jpg
Just like this car racing video..no doubt its fake..hard to believe prelude can beat the S2000.
AcesHigh
02-26-2005, 03:57 PM
I find a comparison between this and wrestling a bit unsettling. I don't think the people who are crying about this video being fake have actually downloaded the thing. The JUN Prelude ranked almost near bottom overall, despite its second best time.
Certainly if "JUN Productions" had made the video (lol) they would not have made major complaints about the JUN Prelude's springs being too hard over bumps. Or the fact that the Euro R tranny's third gear ratio is too long. Most of the praise was being given to the S2Ks, and the only reason they even let the Prelude run against the S2000 was because of its time.
Certainly if "JUN Productions" had made the video (lol) they would not have made major complaints about the JUN Prelude's springs being too hard over bumps. Or the fact that the Euro R tranny's third gear ratio is too long. Most of the praise was being given to the S2Ks, and the only reason they even let the Prelude run against the S2000 was because of its time.
OonePrelude
02-26-2005, 05:22 PM
There's nothing fake about it. Ever hear of the SpeedWorld Challenge. They have classes where SRT-4's battle against Cadillacs, Cameros, Mustangs, BMW's etc. and they do quite well. Front-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive cars are often put in the same class and are very competitive with each other. Besides, if you payed attention you would have noticed that the Prelude was making more power than the S2000 anyway. And they're already lighter than the S2000.
predude
02-28-2005, 02:15 AM
There's nothing fake about it. Ever hear of the SpeedWorld Challenge. They have classes where SRT-4's battle against Cadillacs, Cameros, Mustangs, BMW's etc. and they do quite well. Front-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive cars are often put in the same class and are very competitive with each other. Besides, if you payed attention you would have noticed that the Prelude was making more
power than the S2000 anyway. And they're already lighter than the S2000.
Yeah I believed you man. :evillol: :evillol: :evillol:
Right now I am trying to make video to show that my 1st gen prelude can beat NSX. :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
power than the S2000 anyway. And they're already lighter than the S2000.
Yeah I believed you man. :evillol: :evillol: :evillol:
Right now I am trying to make video to show that my 1st gen prelude can beat NSX. :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
Gohan Ryu
02-28-2005, 04:50 PM
That video obviously isn't fake - anyone with any real experience driving and modifying cars can see that.
Haipong
02-28-2005, 05:15 PM
Yeah I believed you man. :evillol: :evillol: :evillol:
Right now I am trying to make video to show that my 1st gen prelude can beat NSX. :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
dude, cant wait to see video of your prelude beat some NSX. when are you gonna show us??
Right now I am trying to make video to show that my 1st gen prelude can beat NSX. :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
dude, cant wait to see video of your prelude beat some NSX. when are you gonna show us??
Master Hiko
02-28-2005, 11:23 PM
Most of the praise was being given to the S2Ks, and the only reason they even let the Prelude run against the S2000 was because of its time.
what matters other than times when it comes to performance testing? besides, when the JUN Lude made its reapperance, it once again, clocked the best times. i see your point but its like criticizing a car for not having a cup-holder when the purpose of the test is the best times. the suspension was harder because it wasnt adjusted for downhill courses, but was kept at the course sector settings. and considering that nothing was done to lighten the car was the biggest problem for preludes, i think it did damn good for them to have to bring out the Amuse S2K because that is their top car in the class.
what matters other than times when it comes to performance testing? besides, when the JUN Lude made its reapperance, it once again, clocked the best times. i see your point but its like criticizing a car for not having a cup-holder when the purpose of the test is the best times. the suspension was harder because it wasnt adjusted for downhill courses, but was kept at the course sector settings. and considering that nothing was done to lighten the car was the biggest problem for preludes, i think it did damn good for them to have to bring out the Amuse S2K because that is their top car in the class.
AcesHigh
03-01-2005, 07:33 PM
You're right, I found it outrageous that the JUN Prelude was ranked almost second to last. Even with those complaints, the lap time should have meant at least *something*. The hard suspension was probably what killed the streetability rating the first time.
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