Fast Used Car! What should I Do?

Well, I'm getting a car pretty soon (couple of months). I need to start thinking about what it can be. I was looking at a 2nd gen RX-7 Twin Turbo, or Supra Twin Turbo. Or maybe even an MR-2 Turbo. Or I'm welcome to any other suggestions you have. I'm looking to make it to where I can embarass any punk in a Civic who thinks he's hot sh*t. Not to say that anyone who drives a Civic is bad, but most of them are. Thanks!
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Rx-7s are not very reliable , so i won't suggest that . MR2s are nice but only 2 seats and small trunk , and supra has a bulletproof engine if you don't want to overdo it , it can drive 500 hp at the wheels daily... So my suggestion is MR2 if you can get over the small trunk and 2 seats then it's very nice car , and not that common... If you want the extra two seats and trunk and a bigger engine then go for the Supra... Anyway if this is gonna be your first car , i won't suggest any of those , because you'll probably hate pepole talking like that , everybody who gets first car hates that talk , but i think you shouldn't get a powerful car as the first one , and probably not RWD... I know that those are the most fun , but they require a bit expierience if you want to control the power and be able to us it SAFELY...

Well my vote would lie in a Porsche 944 Turbo
Coming in at around $9,000 its the best deal & most underappreciated
sports car of all time. Its got nice specs as well:
220 hp
0-60 6.0 seconds
1/4 mile 14.6
Top speed 155mph
Skidpad - 0.90g
20 mpg
Perfect 50/50 weight distribution

plus modz are pretty cheap and it will only take about $2k to boost the hp to around 320 or so and pull the 0-60 down into the low 5's - high 4's

not too bad for a sub-$10k car :)
good luck in your car search
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Originally posted by banchi105
Well my vote would lie in a Porsche 944 Turbo
Coming in at around $9,000 its the best deal & most underappreciated
sports car of all time. Its got nice specs as well:
220 hp
0-60 6.0 seconds
1/4 mile 14.6
Top speed 155mph
Skidpad - 0.90g
20 mpg
Perfect 50/50 weight distribution

plus modz are pretty cheap and it will only take about $2k to boost the hp to around 320 or so and pull the 0-60 down into the low 5's - high 4's

not too bad for a sub-$10k car :)
good luck in your car search
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Yeah , that's very true... I got one , a cabrio version with bigger turbine and 250 hp stock hp , and now ... don't ask... But the mods costed twice the value of the car , even if there are only 500 turbo cabriolets made worldwide... Also with the mods watch out , because the clutch doesn't handle much more than stock well , and the stock transaxle system is good for no more then 350 hp , you can make it stronger btw. Put on some nice 17s or even 18s like me , and add a strut braces , shocks and springs and suddenly rarely someone will keep up with you on straights , and if your driving technique is good then almost no chance of catching you on twisted road...

Well, first of all, how much cash have you got? Because bottom line thats all that really matters. Now let's see.

Second gen Rx-7 Turbo II, (hmmm, just as a side note I'm pretty sure the Turbo II was actually the 3rd gen, could be wrong though.) Let's see, the turbo II is literally my favourite car ever built, hell, I'd take one over an FD if they were both in equal condition and i could get even half the cash difference. The rotorary engine is by far the best engine type there is from a performance outlook. However, from a daily driving and money outlook, one of the worst. A stock 13b will only last about 90,000 miles tops before it needs a full, and i mean COMPLETE, rebuild. If you start putting on extras and uping the boost your probably gonna drop it down to about 75,000 miles before you need to rebuild. Unfortunately an engine rebuild kit, even bought on E-Bay from revolution rotary costs about $1500 American. That doesn't include labour fees for wherever you get it done, which could run you quite abit seeing as how it could take upwards of 10-20 hours worth of work to do depending on the shop. If they charge you like $40.00 and hour thats like another $500 or more. So Unless you've got a lot of cash for maintenence, I would not recomend an Rx-7 as a first vehicle.

Whats next, a supra? Hmmmm, very nice car. Like tom already said they have a lot of head room to work with as far as power handling without costing a lot for maintence. You could probably get around 350+ with only like I/H/E. Add a turbo to the mix and youve got a lot more then that. The main problem with this is that Supras aren't very common, and are probably the most exspensive of the cars listed here(maybe not the 2nd gen, but the 3rd gen.) Over all a very good car. One of Japan's best for drag racing. Here your main concern is finding one and then affording it.

And finally number 3, the MR2. Ew, very pretty little cars. Can be made very fast too. Hell, the denzosard supra is powered by the MR2's 4 cyclinder and it pushes like 1000 HP or more. However, theres one key difference between a supra with an MR2's engine, and an actual MR2, and that's where the engine is. Ya see MR2's are MID-Engine, Rear-wheel drive. That means that instead of having that big mss of steel called an engine up front in the nose of the car like in most vehicles. What difference does this mean for racing? Not much if all you plan on doing is drag racing, hell if anything the fact that the engines over the rear wheels would help increase traction and therefore give you better launches.

However, if you ever plan on turning in your car at an even somewhat higher then normal speed, then don't get an MR2 because you will not be able to control it. I don't care how good of a driver you might think you are or how much you plan on practicing. A Mid-engine car is not something you should get as a first vehicle.(especially a 91 or 92, they were even more sensitive then the ones after them).

Well, there ya go. Personally I'd suggest looking for a second gen supra, the Rx-7 Is rather high maintence for a first car, and I just don't think you'd be wise to get an MR2(no offense to you, but you want at least a good few years of driving experience before taking on a mid-engine rear-wheel drive car.) Hope I helped.

looks like its been covered, but my little advice is ask about people that have these cars, and find specs on 'em

ive always wanted an mr2, but never got one cuz the 2 seat issue. plus i gotta have a nice sound system, and it aint fitting in no mr2!

looked at a 300zx? can be had fairly cheaply, i once found a 90 2 seater turbo 300zx for sale in good condition for $8000. im stupid for not buying it.

Well depending on where you live, here in New Zealand we can pick up a Skyline GTS4 for around that price, manual coupe.

0-60 5.8 sec
14.4 1/4
4wd
turbo charged

With a few minor mods ie: front mount intercooler, turbo, injectors, ecu pod, exhuast done right very low 12's in 1/4.

what about the 3rd gen RX7 thats cheaper than a 3rd gen supra ??

rotaries are a pin in the maintenance department

YOUR ALL MORONS!! FIST OFF THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TWIN TURBO 2NG GENERATION RX-7(UNLESS SOMEONE DID AN ENGINE TRANSPLANT). I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE ONE. THE 2 IN TURBO II DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT'S A TWIN TURBO!!! THE THIRD GENERATION RX-7S ARE THE TWIN TURBOS. SECONDLY YOU'LL BUY AN RX-7 IF YOUR WANT A RELIABLE CAR. WHO EVER SAID THAT THE ROTARY ENGINE ISN'T RELIABLE SHOULD GET THERE HEAD OUT OF THERE ASS AND THINK FOR A SECOND. THE ROTARY ENGINE HAS 80% FEWER MOVING PARTS THAN YOUR RICER HONDA, THEY DON'T NEED A VALVE TRAIN AT ALL. THEY ALSO SPIN MORE FREE THAN A PISTON. I CAN EASILY TAKE MY CAR TO 10k RPM BEFORE I LET OFF, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I'VE OWNED THE CAR FOR 3 YEARS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. MY CAR ASLO DOES 0-60 IN UNDER 6 (5.7 ACTUALLY)SEC AND MY CAR IS STOCK. MY FINNAL POINT IS ABOUT THE REBUILD KITS, IF YOU WOULD STOP LOOKING AT ALL THE PORN ON THE INTERNET AND LOOK FOR PARTS, YOU CAN FIND THINGS A LOT CHEAPER. A COMPLETE, AND I MEAN COMPLETE, REBUILD KIT WILL COST YOU AROUND $600+LABOUR. BUT YOUR NOT GOING TO NEED ONE AT 90kMILES, I HAVE 150k ON MY CAR AND IT STILL WILL BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR MOM'S GROCERY GETTER. SO IN CONCLUSION, IF YOU WANT A GOOD CAR BUY A RX-7. IF YOU CAN'T GET A ROTARY, SAVE YOUR MONEY

Originally posted by hondakiller
YOUR ALL MORONS!! FIST OFF THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TWIN TURBO 2NG GENERATION RX-7(UNLESS SOMEONE DID AN ENGINE TRANSPLANT). I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE ONE. THE 2 IN TURBO II DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT'S A TWIN TURBO!!! THE THIRD GENERATION RX-7S ARE THE TWIN TURBOS. SECONDLY YOU'LL BUY AN RX-7 IF YOUR WANT A RELIABLE CAR. WHO EVER SAID THAT THE ROTARY ENGINE ISN'T RELIABLE SHOULD GET THERE HEAD OUT OF THERE ASS AND THINK FOR A SECOND. THE ROTARY ENGINE HAS 80% FEWER MOVING PARTS THAN YOUR RICER HONDA, THEY DON'T NEED A VALVE TRAIN AT ALL. THEY ALSO SPIN MORE FREE THAN A PISTON. I CAN EASILY TAKE MY CAR TO 10k RPM BEFORE I LET OFF, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I'VE OWNED THE CAR FOR 3 YEARS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. MY CAR ASLO DOES 0-60 IN UNDER 6 (5.7 ACTUALLY)SEC AND MY CAR IS STOCK. MY FINNAL POINT IS ABOUT THE REBUILD KITS, IF YOU WOULD STOP LOOKING AT ALL THE PORN ON THE INTERNET AND LOOK FOR PARTS, YOU CAN FIND THINGS A LOT CHEAPER. A COMPLETE, AND I MEAN COMPLETE, REBUILD KIT WILL COST YOU AROUND $600+LABOUR. BUT YOUR NOT GOING TO NEED ONE AT 90kMILES, I HAVE 150k ON MY CAR AND IT STILL WILL BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR MOM'S GROCERY GETTER. SO IN CONCLUSION, IF YOU WANT A GOOD CAR BUY A RX-7. IF YOU CAN'T GET A ROTARY, SAVE YOUR MONEY

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Well said swedish, well said :D

Oh yeah, and I'm the one who pointed out that people usualy opt for a big single scroll turbo over a twin turbo system with a rotary engine. I didn't say that the turbo II is a TT, but he was talking about upgrading the car and one of the obvious upgrades he was thinking of doing was CHANGING it to a bigger twin turbo system. I advised against this as it would cut into the 13b's already less then prolonged lifetime.

And yes rotary's do have very short lifespans. The apex seals always go. A naturally aspirated one can last a long time, but a turbo charged model will only get to maybe 100,000 miles tops before it starts haveing major problems and needs a rebuild.

As for rebuild kit prices, your right, they can be had for less then $1500, if you know where to look. However, since i don't know this guy I have to assume he doesn't know where to look. Also, they are money pits, because even if you do get a kit for $600, like you said yourself, you still need to pay for labour. And the labour on an engine rebuild ain't cheap.

Trust me man, I'm on our side. The RX-7 is my favourite car ever, and I'm usually the one trying to explain to people how much superioir a rotary is to anything else, but the do have their downsides, at least until the RX-8 is released :D

Its an obviouse choice but go for a 93/94 supra twin turbo, it has the ost potential for horsepower with the same money spent on mods for each one.

Is this your first car? If it is you better get ready to bend over, because you're gonna get screwed with insurance rates :eek:

Oh yeah, my vote is for the supra :ylsuper

Im gonna be a junior in high school next school year and im learning to drive on my mom's 89 Mercury Tracer(soon to be mine yuck!). Do you guys think that summer after senior year or sometime in college is the best time to get a supra/300z/rx-7? Or should i just wait until im a Automotive Designer(fingers crossed...)or Mechanical Engineer to get a RX-8/350Z/Lancer EVO?.....I wonder if the Tracer is modable, I was looking at the speedometer and it goes up to 140kph/85mph(POS)...*sigh*being me sucks

I would wait until like your 21 before you buy a sports car. Insurance will kill you. For instance full coverage for my 1993 Honda Accord 4dr Sedan would be $1600/year. Thats a FAMILY CAR. One of my dad's coworker's son had a camaro until he had to pay somewhere in the neighborhood of $3,000 per year insurance.

I see...hm.well with that in the clear, do you think its possible to put a I/H/E in the 89' Tracer Hatchback. My dad told it it wouldnt be possible since the engine room is small...its just too slooo...

Might be able to get a custom universal exhaust and make a custom intake with a K&N filter, but prolly no header. Even with that, you'd only pick up like 10 hp which wouldn't be that noticable.

Waiting untill you are atleast 21 is the best tip anybody can give you. Nothing will save you like good old experience. I started driving on a 1985 Corolla, it was perfect because it always makes you under-estimate the car. The kids that start out in big HP cars are the ones that end up wrapped around light poles, or even worse killing other motorists. If you don't want to wait untill you are 21 that is your decision, but atleast take a couple performance driving courses.

And yes, Insurance rates will drain your bank account like no other. If I wanted to get full full insurance on my R1 it would be $12,000 a year, and my R6 would pull in about $9,000 a year for full coverage.

I voted for the Supra Twin-turbo. Even though the RX7 will allow you to rev to 12-15K RPM's, the Supra is just PIMP:smoka:

May I suggest a nice mustang cobra? The 94/95s make good cars. Most out there have low miles and are in good shape. Just stock you will be running cicles around civics and such that have many grand invested in mods.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
May I suggest a nice mustang cobra?

Um... not on his list of choices. IMHO, Mustangs look like garbage. The RX7 & Supra 0wnz Ford when it comes to style!

Ok DMC, no offense or anything, but what the HELL kind of CRAZY ASS RX-7's have you seen? even the top of the line FD's redline at 9,000RPM. Even the new renesis engine in the RX-8 only makes it to 10 or 11,000.

Hehe, an RX with a 14,000RPM redline, now THAT would sound sweet :)

Originally posted by DMC12


Um... not on his list of choices. IMHO, Mustangs look like garbage. The RX7 & Supra 0wnz Ford when it comes to style!

Style is in the eye of the beholder. If the 1980s flare of the RX7 and Supra is style, then the beholder is blind.

My only problem with the cobras is the fact of how damn many of them there are! Other than that they are right up there with the RX7 in my book....course I could be biased :bandit: (FORD OWNZ YoU ALL!)

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
My only problem with the cobras is the fact of how damn many of them there are! Other than that they are right up there with the RX7 in my book....course I could be biased :bandit: (FORD OWNZ YoU ALL!)
There are probably many times fewer cobras then the rx7. They only make between 4000-6000 per year in the whole USA. And 1993 was the first year of the svt cobra. But, since they have not made the RX7 or supra here for a while and they are still making cobras, I supose the number of cobras will at some point pass those of the rx7. Also, take into consideration there are a certain large number of fake cobras running around as well.

Hahaha... OKAY. You don't seem to realize that the Cobra looks the same as any ordinary grocery-getting girlie Mustang V6.

The RX7 I speak of is the last gen, which came out in the 90's (so I don't know where the 80's comment came from unless you spent a little too much time napping).

The only reason given by engineers for the RX7's lower redline was that stock ignition systems will overload at that spark rate... so simply swap out the system for hi-po racing system & you're set!!!

That would be the point, in the last month, I have seen at least 15 cobras and 10 Saleens all 97+. Were the kit cars? I dont know, but, I have only seen -1- Rx-7

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
That would be the point, in the last month, I have seen at least 15 cobras and 10 Saleens all 97+. Were the kit cars? I dont know, but, I have only seen -1- Rx-7
Check the junkyards, you should be able to find more then 1. And remeber they dont make them any more, they still make the mustang. So, duh of course you will probably see more mustangs.

Last time I checked they do still make the RX-7 and they are going to make the RX-8, and even still, that would be my point.

Although you could get a junkyard car and restore it, I dont recomend it because unless you really know what your doing, its too much money and effort.

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
Last time I checked they do still make the RX-7 and they are going to make the RX-8, and even still, that would be my point.

Although you could get a junkyard car and restore it, I dont recomend it because unless you really know what your doing, its too much money and effort.


Still make them do they? Have not seen any new ones here in the USA for a while. Since were in the USA im assuming where talking about whats here in the USA for sale. Unless the starter of this thread would like to go overseas?

Aw you two! Just kiss & make out!










(Oops, I meant "up")

Originally posted by DMC12
Aw you two! Just kiss & make out!










(Oops, I meant "up")


I wouldnt want to steal your boyfriend dmc12

Originally posted by DMC12
Hahaha... OKAY. You don't seem to realize that the Cobra looks the same as any ordinary grocery-getting girlie Mustang V6.


And you say 94svt5.0 talks crap?

Hm let's see...
V6 Mustang has huge LTD walmart tires, 15 inch rims, single exhaust, no fog lights, no active hood scoops, and I don't think it has positraction.

SVT Cobra - Monster-like 3" exhaust pipes, 17" rims all around on Zrated tires, circle fog lights in the front with no mustang emblem on the grill... SVT marked brakes all around, a cobra emblem on the side and SVT on the back...

Yeah they look alike, alright... :rolleyes:

Grocery getting girly Mustang? You were the one on another thread that talked about the DMC being a chick magnet and all that crap. I'd rather have a grocery getting car... (which I already do have) than a car I can brag about because it attracts girls.... If I wanted to do that I'd get a Civic and put a body kit on it and drop it, with a system and "Phat" 18" rims... That get's chicks too, it doesn't mean it's a good car.

Oh yeah and 94svt5.0 does know what he's talking about, the second gen RX-7 was stopped in 1992, and it looks uglier than a 83 Buick Skylark. The second Gen Supra wasn't too pretty either. The third gen RX-7 was the one that Dominic Toretto drove around and... Good luck finding a good condition 3rd gen TT Supra...

I was talking about the states and the third gen 7. S2Corrola, are you quite through talking shit?

The point about the mustang is its still the same body. Unless you know cars, something which most people -dont- it will look like a normal mustang, maby slightly different. I personally love how they look, but, the idea is how many rx's do you see?

I know you can get a good rx7 (3rd gen) for 18g's no prob. I know this because a good friend has been looking and has found 3 recently, no problems on them.

Aw crap! Forgot about the "2G" RX7 (shows how big an impression it made on me).

The "3G" RX7 is the one I cream... er, dream about. That car & the 3G Supra were cars I really wanted, but couldn't afford at the time. I still have the sales brochures from the two dealers here in town... Now I know what it feels like when all those old men would tell stories of seeing GTO's & Trans Am's in dealerships.

As for the new RX8, the perf specs may look good, but its styling is quite subjective.
http://www.dfw-rx7.com/Rx-8/IMAGE018.JPG
The lines just don't flow... but if lines aren't supposed to flow, then we've found the poster child.

Originally posted by DMC12
Aw crap! Forgot about the "2G" RX7 (shows how big an impression it made on me).

The "3G" RX7 is the one I cream... er, dream about. That car & the 3G Supra were cars I really wanted, but couldn't afford at the time. I still have the sales brochures from the two dealers here in town... Now I know what it feels like when all those old men would tell stories of seeing GTO's & Trans Am's in dealerships.

As for the new RX8, the perf specs may look good, but its styling is quite subjective.
http://www.dfw-rx7.com/Rx-8/IMAGE018.JPG
The lines just don't flow... but if lines aren't supposed to flow, then we've found the poster child.
What are the performance specs on that thing?

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
What are the performance specs on that thing?

According to the Mazda's Japanese Web site:
50:50 weight distribution
6-speed manual


Heard elsewhere:
9,000 RPM red line
0-60 in 6 seconds
Naturally aspirated RENESIS Engine 1.3-liter two-rotor
Horsepower 250 @ 8500 rpm
Torque 153 lbs-ft @ 7500 rpm

http://www.rx-8.com/specs.html
http://www.battleboard.org/messageview.cfm?catid=2&threadid=1889
http://www.rx-8.com/images/gallery/4big_mazda01.jpg
http://www.rx-8.com/images/gallery/04_RX-8.jpg

Anyway, I'll digress...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DMC12
[B]

According to the Mazda's Japanese Web site:
50:50 weight distribution
6-speed manual


Heard elsewhere:
9,000 RPM red line
0-60 in 6 seconds
Naturally aspirated RENESIS Engine 1.3-liter two-rotor
Horsepower 250 @ 8500 rpm
Torque 153 lbs-ft @ 7500 rpm



sounds similar to s2000 engine.

Yeah, I test-drove an S2000 & FOR THE MONEY it wasn't the legend its cracked up to be. The RX8 will sell like hotcakes if Mazda sequential-turbos that 1.8L engine & refines the "edge" styling. The interior is cool.



Originally posted by menikmati2002
I'm looking to make it to where I can embarass any punk in a Civic who thinks he's hot sh*t.

The late model Supra & RX7 are beautiful cars with the performance to match. However, you'll pay dearly for good condition examples ($26K for the SupraTT, $15 for the RX7). You could get a 95 Supra LE for $13K and add a turbo for $2K!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DMC12
[B]Yeah, I test-drove an S2000 & FOR THE MONEY it wasn't the legend its cracked up to be. The RX8 will sell like hotcakes if Mazda sequential-turbos that 1.8L engine & refines the "edge" styling. The interior is cool.


I have a friend who has an s2000 so, I have driven it a couple times. No power down low and that is where you spend most of the mundane day in day out driving time. But, once 6000 rpm rolls in, its quite the beast. It just needs some torque. Never got to drive it in the twisties yet, its supposed to handle like a dream. For the money though, you could get so much more...... like a 2003 cobra. Anyway we have had countless debates on whose car could beat whose. Cant get him to race me though. Probably knows I would smoke him:D

Originally posted by 94svt5.0 But, once 6000 rpm rolls in, its quite the beast[/B]

You've just cleared up a long-standing mystery in my head... when I test-drove that thing I didn't really go above 6,000 (as the salesman was nervous). I was wondering what the big deal was... Oh well, not too big a loss though. I do agree with you that a FOR THE $ you can get a much more satisfying car.

Originally posted by DMC12


You've just cleared up a long-standing mystery in my head... when I test-drove that thing I didn't really go above 6,000 (as the salesman was nervous). I was wondering what the big deal was... Oh well, not too big a loss though. I do agree with you that a FOR THE $ you can get a much more satisfying car.

When it hits 6 grand its the difference between night and day. It accelerates about like a civic, then bam it sets you back.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
For the money though, you could get so much more...... like a 2003 cobra. Anyway we have had countless debates on whose car could beat whose. Cant get him to race me though. Probably knows I would smoke him:D

hell yah, hell, take a prelude, or even a civic, you can do alot for that ammount of money. I'd still go for the cobra though.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0


When it hits 6 grand its the difference between night and day. It accelerates about like a civic, then bam it sets you back.

Take off's are important too. In an S2000 if you take off at anything less than 6grand before you drop the clutch, you're looking at 7-8 second 0-60 times... Drop the clutch at 6000 rpm and you have a 5.8 second 0-60 beast. I test drove it too... I don't care what the salesmen says, I'm gonna run a car in and out if I'm thinking about buying it. It was a used one for $24,000.00 I think it was worth it but after getting an insurance quote, I cried in my room for three days straight.

As for the "shit talking" Terminal Velocity, it's only because you said the SECOND generation RX-7 looks ten times more beautiful than the Mustang, and you said it wasn't in the 80's. The second generation RX-7 turbo WAS in the late 80's very early 90's, and they're uglier than crap, that's why 94svt5.0 said that the beholder is blind.

Oh and don't forget maintenance issues with third generation RX-7's, at about 95k miles on a 13b or 18b, guess what? You have to get a new engine. And at about 55k miles, you usually have to rebuild the engine. And maintenance problems, don't even get me started... My sister's bf had one, and I drove it, it feels like you're flying, that's how beautiful the performance on that car is, but I was also standing next to him when the engine blew, believe me, it's not a beautiful thing OWNING an RX-7 unless you have major doe.

If I had 24,000 boners to spend... I would do this...
I would get a 1997 Prelude non-SH for about 15k, spend 2k lowering the compression with a fully built motor, and getting forged pistons, cams and such. And spend 5k on a stage 3 street driven turbo kit. And the other 2k on suspension and ice... Ice being the stereo and cosmetics like tinting the windows, black rims or things like that. You're looking at a low 11's daily driven car with style.

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Drop the clutch at 6000 rpm and you have a 5.8 second 0-60 beast.

Yes, "stook" owners always talk about dropping the clutch at high RPM's. They sound happy about it, but it really fux over their drivetrain/ transmission:bloated:

I was watching a video that had a supercharged S2K in it, it was pretty fierce :D Around were I live we don't have many modded 2Ks. Actually only one that I can remeber seeing and I haven't gotten a chance to talk to the guy that drives it :( :(

I havent seen one, I've only seen stock ones driven by old men :rolleyes: (not sayin old is bad, just they are livin up to it, not rallying, which is fine but I want to take one on)

Not to get back to the topic but the only two or three cars you should think about getting are the Rx-7 (3rd gen) or the 300zxTT, and maybe the Mr-2.

You aren't going to find a Supra TT in that price range.
Why get a 2nd gen Rx-7 when you can get a 3rd
The mr-2 is the slowest of the 3.
The Z does the 1/4 in about 13.8 and 0-60 in about 5.3
The rx-7 does the 1/4 in about 14 and 0-60 in about 5.0
Mr-2 does the 1/4 in the 14s and 0-60 in about 5.7

If you want a backseat get the rx-7 as it is the only car with one.
Even though I like the Z and I own one I say get the Rx-7 because rotary is really nice, and it has more potential to mod and is easier to make it go faster.

Good luck

Man I LOOOOOVE the MR2! I wanted a 95 MR2 turbo sooo bad. But they're so rare, I could never find one. The 91-92 is the next best thing. I love RX-7s too, but not the older ones as much as the last model...

im gonna have to side with hondakiller on this one...ive got an 87 rx7 and its up to 190,000 miles. Compression is still excellent and it runs like a charm. Intake, custom exhaust, new wheels and tires and weight reduction and im running 12s and could smoke a lot of things on the road. Rotaries ARE reliable..and there are tons of places to get parts. Supras can handle more power easily. 3rd gen rotaries are fickle compared to 2nd generations but still nonetheless reliable. Mr2 insurance is gonna kill you...so i wouldnt suggest that. I forgot what else you mentioned. I would have to say get a 2nd gen rx7 turbo. Upgrade the turbo, fuel sys. etc..reduce some weight and you got yourself a low 12 second car. HELL, I got my rex for 550 bucks...so i know you can find one! Or, if you dont want to deal with the rotary engine, get a cheap 240sx and put a sr20 engine in it. (or leave it stock ka and put a turbo on it. Theres a guy who is running 10.58 1/4 mile on the ka engine with a bottom end rebuild and a t70 turbo. (not exactly streetable because of the lag time, but 10.58 is 10.58. Theres my opinion.

Be original, get a corrado VR-6:sun:

Originally posted by jarnld
Or, if you dont want to deal with the rotary engine, get a cheap 240sx and put a sr20 engine in it. (or leave it stock ka and put a turbo on it. Theres a guy who is running 10.58 1/4 mile on the ka engine with a bottom end rebuild and a t70 turbo. (not exactly streetable because of the lag time, but 10.58 is 10.58. Theres my opinion.

Ya know, I was just about to suggest that. You can get a 180SX (S13 hatchback to us North Americans), for about $3K, a front end conversion kit to look like a S15 Silvia for around $2K, have your KA24 professionally rebuilt for around 300hp for about $3K, and spend the other $2K on suspension and wheels... Then again, you don't have to do the S15 SilEighty conversion, but damn does it look nice... After that, you have a rock solid car, with a brand new engine...

As for Sinister, I would recommend you get a 83-87 Toyota Corolla GTS, they are cheap, handle great... It also has a limited slip differential, 4 wheel disk brakes, and 4 wheel independant suspension. They aren't the most powerful cars, but you can always swap engines or turbocharge it.

$10,000? Wow! I wish I'd started off with that. That's an early high mileage Porsche 928 or 914/6 in decent shape. Or, a slightly beat Triumph Spitfire GT-6. Hmm, what else... A Datsun 260 or 280Z (not X). I've seen Saab 99 Turbos pretty cheap, too. If you don't mind pushrods and live rear axles, early fourth generation LT-1 Camaros have tons of torque. Heck, if you pay more than $5000 for any MGB that isn't mint and doesn't have a competition history. (like the roadster Paddy Hopkirk drove at Le Mans in 1966), you've just been hosed. Especially if it has rubber bumpers, blech. But I agree that a 240SX would be a good buy, or the FC RX-7, so long as you don't mind working a bit during the higher up miles. The Supra is just so heavy, though. It's great in long sweepers, but no agility. The mister-two is a great piece, I'd like one, but they're sort of scarce. Finally, how about a Merkur XR4AT-i Turbo? $2000 and you get heated seats. They need sway bars like hell, though. Stiffer springs wouldn't hurt either. But what car couldn't use those?

Oh yeah, I'd choose the RX-7. I like the rotary sound.

poll is kinda off they never made a Marklll TT unless you lived in Japan they came with a 2.5 TT in N.A it was just a single turbo other than that you are thinking about a Markllll which is way over priced
also i'd never buy a Rx-7 without have 2-3 grand sittin in the bank incase the self-destruct engine ever goes off

you could find a used BMW 3-series for cheap like a 328i or maybe a 330i if you look

Not the best choice for a street racer, unless you want to drop $5K on the engine...

Originally posted by Cbass



As for Sinister, I would recommend you get a 83-87 Toyota Corolla GTS, they are cheap, handle great... It also has a limited slip differential, 4 wheel disk brakes, and 4 wheel independant suspension. They aren't the most powerful cars, but you can always swap engines or turbocharge it.

Actually, I'd opt for the 85-87 GTS Corollas(AE86). But they are somewhat hard to locate. This one is RWD and has a weight balance of near 50/50. the stock 4age motor doesn't have too much grunt... something like 125 hp or something. A popular motor swap is the 4agze motor from supercharged mr2's, another common but not so wide spread is the 3s-gte(did I get that oen right?) motor from the turbo'ed mr2's. The AE86 is a beautiful car as well, might I add... Butt when you get a wide body kit on there... whoooooooooooo!!!!