1995 300HP Prelude

Hi i know that this topic has been betten to death and i have done a search and i am not finding what i want.

I would like to know what i would need to get a 96 Prelude VTEC to 300HP. i am looking to rebuild the engine so if things like pistons and rods would help please list.

thanx in advance for all you help. Hellbringer

Hi i know that this topic has been betten to death and i have done a search and i am not finding what i want.

I would like to know what i would need to get a 96 Prelude VTEC to 300HP. i am looking to rebuild the engine so if things like pistons and rods would help please list.

thanx in advance for all you help. Hellbringer

NOS & Turbo. See my ride below, it was dyno tested 310hp @8000rpm

i HATE nos so is there another way to get the HP

i HATE nos so is there another way to get the HP


put stickers all over your car, buy a giant aluminum wing, throw a bunch of white neon lights under it, cut the springs, weld on a universal muffler, buy some spinner hubcaps (lol), and best of all.... an unpainted body kit should get you at least 50 more horsies.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

ok since these jerk-ohs won't help much, maybe i can be of some help. it all really depends on how much you're willing to spend. if you want to keep your motor n/a, it's going to be just a little bit harder. but the first thing you can do if you want to keep it n/a is get a bad ass exhaust system... skunk 2 makes an excellent one that will not make your 2.2L sound raspy like a civic, greddy makes a good one, hks probably makes the best one. the next thing you can do is buy an exhaust header. then save up and buy an msd blaster ignition coil and msd programable digital-7 ignition box. then install some ngk iridium spark plugs and ngk wires. get you a nice cold air intake; i would recommend injen. they're a little bit more expensive, but just that will give you up to 20hp. and what you can do on the cold air intake is take off the injen air filter, and put on a k&n cone filter. buy some new cams, cam gears, if you want, buy some new cylinder heads. like i said it's gonna be hard to get 300 hp by keeping it n/a... but it is possible. if you want a quick 70-150 hp, slap on a nice turbo kit. but before you do that, you need to do a little research and see what your compression is. you don't want a high comp. with a turbo, or the pressure will blow all the freeze plugs and possibly crack the actual block. so you want a low comp., but you gotta put in higher flowing fuel injectors than those stock ones you got, b/c you don't want you engine to be running on 70% air and 30% fuel. so put on some 720cc fuel injectors, buy you an air/fuel ratio gauge, boost guage, air/oil temp. gauge, oil press. gauge, all that jazz. and that's a quick way to get your prelude to 300+ ponies with a turbo. you could also do a motor swap. you could get a b16 engine or a k20 engine (if you don't mind your prelude sounding like a civic), but you'll have to save up a few bucks for that k20 engine. but if you do get it, it'll be worth the 10K that you spent on it. or you can do something like what my friend did with his civic. you can take the integra gsr block (which has awesome top speed) and put on the integra ls heads (which has awesome acceleration). that way you can get the best of both ends. well hope that's a little bit of some help for you.

here are a couple links:
http://www.andysautosport.com/
http://www.thepartsbin.com/performance/index.php?makeid=ho&model=prelude&year=1995

Um, what? For one, no cold air intake is going to give you 20hp. You're lucky to get 3-5. Two, 720cc injectors are HUGE. For 300hp, 440cc injectors will do just fine. And three, why would you swap a b16 engine into a prelude? Use the engine you have. In addition, the stock ignition system on the prelude is very good, and from what I've read will support far more than 300hp, so don't waste your money there. If you want to make 300hp though, the best route is turbo. You could go N/A and I suppose get to 300hp, but with the cam and other things you would have to put into the engine, you'd be making your power past like 6000 RPM and you would lose your streetability. If you plan on doing a rebuild, then definitely go for pistons, rods, maybe sleeve the block too. You might want to do the valve train while you're at it too. Eagle and Crower are two brands that seem to be popular for internals. An exhaust is a must either way, but especially for a turbo. Go 2.5" with the exhaust, maybe bigger with a turbo.

ok, one, i said UP TO 20 hp. my celica GTS gained 16.7 hp from my CUSTOM cold air intake made out of 3 inch dryer exhaust vent hose... no big name brand or anything. two, the injectors were for the turbo... you gonna run stock injectors on a turbo? no, you wouldn't. three, i said IF you wanted to do a motor swap and don't mind your car SOUNDING LIKE A CIVIC. another thing, the stock prelude ignition system does not compare to any msd ignition, so you can't say it's a bad idea. i would do it if you're on a big budget and want a little bit stronger combustion. i agree with the internals, but not the brand. go with a high name brand like greddy or ross. they both make forged pistons and rods, and are both top of the line internals for any vehicle. and the exhaust yes, even if you don't have the turbo, still gotta have the exhaust.

Ferrea or JUN of the following:
Titanium Valve Retainers
Valve Springs
Cam gears
* JE Custom Pistons/Rings (Or the JUN pistons)
Crower Rods
Darton Sleeves

Piston choice is where you decide if you want a turbo or not. NA and turbo piston designs are different (besides compression). The sleeves, and to a lesser extent the rods, follow the piston change. You don't necessarily have to do the last three, and if you do JUN products (Going full NA)across the board, you can use the JUN ecu pretty much without having to do any major tuning.

Depending on how you go about it, you can be making from 230hp to +400hp. By the time you hit about 300hp, you'll be having such terrible tire problems that you won't be very competitive. Any more power will cause you to do burnouts all day.

my celica GTS gained 16.7 hp from my CUSTOM cold air intake made out of 3 inch dryer exhaust vent hose.

I'd really like to see your dyno sheet that shows 16.7 hp from just a CAI. You must have dyno'ed it to know you got exactly 16.7 hp - I'm not calling bs, I'd just like to see the dyno sheet.

No, you don't run stock internals on a turbo, but not 720cc, that's way too big. Turbo set-ups made for an H22A come with 440cc injectors, which are dyno proven to be the best choice is most applications. And why would you swap out an H22A for a smaller engine with less torque and less horsepower? The H-series engines were made for the ludes. And Aces, quick question. Is that 230-400hp estimate on an N/A application? I'd assume it wouldn't be very streetable right?

300 flywheel hp mark is generally the streetability threshold for a typical NA H22A. A little under that would be ideal for the street. You can still run 93 pump gas, and there is enough low end power for curves. Also, changes in temperature and pressure won't pose as great of a threat to proper function and reliability.

+400hp is a number for turbocharged H22A's, and is a very realistic number (there are quite a few that have surpassed 500hp). Even slicks won't be gripping you much at this point.

Also, I'd like to add that the JUN (along with the Type S) pistons are the only pistons that are compatible with H series FRM lining. This roughly translates to, get this: *no resleeving required*.

You can still run 93 pump gas, .


so where do you get the 93 octane gas?

another thing, the stock prelude ignition system does not compare to any msd ignition, so you can't say it's a bad idea. i would do it if you're on a big budget and want a little bit stronger combustion.

the stock prelude ignition system is awesome.... some of the fastest N/A hondas out there use the stock ignition system with stock plug wires. go back to the celica forums you idiot. :loser:

so where do you get the 93 octane gas?

Most gas stations. In theory you should be using it right now, in fact.

the stock prelude ignition system is awesome.... some of the fastest N/A hondas out there use the stock ignition system with stock plug wires. go back to the celica forums you idiot. :loser:

i agree the stock ignition is good, and i never said it wasn't, so don't put words in my mouth. my point is simply this: you CANNOT beat an msd ignition system. and just b/c i have a celica doesn't mean i don't know anything about hondas... i'm about to purchase a prelude vtec... so don't start talkin shit until you know what i know or what i don't know... but back to the 300hp part... another thing you could do is take the H23 block and put the H22 heads on it... that would be a pretty good swap for if your looking for another big hp gain.

I'd really like to see your dyno sheet that shows 16.7 hp from just a CAI. You must have dyno'ed it to know you got exactly 16.7 hp - I'm not calling bs, I'd just like to see the dyno sheet.

you wanna see them? how bout giving me an email address and i'll prove it.

Most gas stations. In theory you should be using it right now, in fact.

pump gas here is 91 octane.

i thought it was 93 or 92 everywhere... it's 93 all around here

It's a good idea to do the frankenstein engine, but it's kind of a shot in the dark. Some people swear by it, others have problems with it. As with the ignition...the preludes ignition supports up to 600hp. The wires are NGK, and I have asked before, and the answer I got is that the stock system is THE BEST for the prelude. The only thing an msd system is going to do for an H22 prelude is maybe give a little better throttle response. Basically, I'm trying to save him a couple of hundred dollars that could be spent on things to gain power rather than something unnecessary.

i thought it was 93 or 92 everywhere... it's 93 all around here

nope.. premium gas in california is only 91 octane

but back to the 300hp part... another thing you could do is take the H23 block and put the H22 heads on it... that would be a pretty good swap for if your looking for another big hp gain.

The mere facts that you think the H motors have more than one head discounts any credibility you might have had with me.. That and the recommendation for a B series motor.. Please, do your research. A B series motor in any prelude 4th gen or above would be worthless compared to what you can do with the H.

As for my reccomendation, 300WHP would be most easily and reliably achieved with some sort of turbocharging and a mild engine build. Best thing you can do is make a budget for what you can afford, factor in labor, parts and probably 1000 dollars extra cash for whatever else comes up. Good planning is probably the best way not to spend excessive amounts of money on things that you will change your mind on or wont work out.

300hp is a good number to shoot for.. good luck.

i agree the stock ignition is good, and i never said it wasn't, so don't put words in my mouth. my point is simply this: you CANNOT beat an msd ignition system. and just b/c i have a celica doesn't mean i don't know anything about hondas... i'm about to purchase a prelude vtec... so don't start talkin shit until you know what i know or what i don't know... but back to the 300hp part... another thing you could do is take the H23 block and put the H22 heads on it... that would be a pretty good swap for if your looking for another big hp gain.

are you retarded? the stock plug wires are FAR better than the MSD crap. i have had both. maybe you shouldnt purchase that prelude vtec after all.. you may be a disgrace to the lude world, especially with your attitude. you sound like a little kid that thinks he is better than everyone else. Dont even get me started on the B-series comment.
I am going to talk shit about what you know and don't know because you obviously don't know a damn thing. I bet you live at home with your parents or at least they bought you the car... get a freakin life.

The mere facts that you think the H motors have more than one head discounts any credibility you might have had with me...

sorry if i made a typo... you gonna completely throw away that idea of getting 220 hp easily just b/c i made a typo?

are you retarded? the stock plug wires are FAR better than the MSD crap. i have had both. maybe you shouldnt purchase that prelude vtec after all.. you may be a disgrace to the lude world, especially with your attitude. you sound like a little kid that thinks he is better than everyone else. Dont even get me started on the B-series comment.
I am going to talk shit about what you know and don't know because you obviously don't know a damn thing. I bet you live at home with your parents or at least they bought you the car... get a freakin life.


i'm not the one startin shit... that would be you... no i don't live at home, and no my parents did not buy my car... and the whole B-series comment, yeah, that was a bad idea, i admit it... i wasn't in my best state of mind when i wrote all that.

sorry if i made a typo... you gonna completely throw away that idea of getting 220 hp easily just b/c i made a typo?


dont know who you are arguing with but i think saying sorry is gay..

you wanna see them? how bout giving me an email address and i'll prove it.

Sorry dude I'm not giving you my email address, if you want to post more ignorance just do it in this thread.

you can take the integra gsr block (which has awesome top speed) and put on the integra ls heads (which has awesome acceleration).

but back to the 300hp part... another thing you could do is take the H23 block and put the H22 heads on it...

I didn't think it was a typo when you did it twice..

A typo is an honest mistake, but there are other fallacies that you mention all over your posts. All you have to do is stop pretending you know everything about preludes when you don't even own one yet. Swallow your pride young blood.

hey Prelewd what parts would i need to do a good rebuild on a prelude VTEC engine and what is the best turbo for the money. Thanx Hellbriger

Depends on what your goals are Hellbringer. It also depends on how much boost you want to run. With 7psi and below, you can run stock internals as long as it's tuned properly. Over 7psi, you're going to want to beef up your internals, pistons, rods, etc., and go with a lower compression. Eagle and Crower seem to be two brands that are popular on the forum. As far as best turbo for the money, you have to decide whether you want to buy a kit, or make your own custom set-up and buy all the pieces seperately. If you're looking for a kit, I'll give the guy I bought my car from another plug, check out www.turbokits.com. Before you do anything though, I'd suggest just doing a little research, checking out other people's set-ups, and seeing exactly what you want to do. Hope this helps.

hey i was doing some looking ont he internet and i found this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7956792872&category=33742

What do you guys think of this. also in the 4th pic from the top what dose that connect to. third it says that it can do up to 25pis (i know i not going to run it that high) but the way to get a higher PIS is that a matter of changing the BOV. last what part do you NEED to put a turbo in a prelude. Thanx Hellbringer

it is a matter of adjusting the wastegate... not the BOV. on the 4th pic going down from the top - they took the turbo apart to show you the inside.

yeah, that was a bad idea, i admit it... i wasn't in my best state of mind when i wrote all that.


not your best excuse either...

I didn't think it was a typo when you did it twice..

A typo is an honest mistake, but there are other fallacies that you mention all over your posts. All you have to do is stop pretending you know everything about preludes when you don't even own one yet. Swallow your pride young blood.

ok so it happened twice... sorry if i gotta be politically correct 100% of the time... you want me to fix it? ok... any 4 cylinder engine only has one cylinder head... i know that b/c my own car is a 4 cylinder... the issue isn't about preludes here, you just got a problem b/c i have to be correct all the damn time... but are you honestly going to throw away the idea of making the H23 a vtec? i mean come on dude... even you couldn't disagree with that... so sorry about the mistake... i don't want you to hold it against me or anything just b/c i said it twice.

not your best excuse either...

oh, you tryin to hurt my feelings now or something? why don't you grow some balls and just LET IT GO. at least i got balls enough to admit when i'm wrong.

are you still talking?

Guys come on what are you accomplishing with this?
If nothing else take this to Email or AIM and stop wasting AF's bandwith with childish crap. :2cents:

any 4 cylinder engine only has one cylinder head... i know that b/c my own car is a 4 cylinder

So you're trying to tell me that a WRX only has one head...

you could get a b16 engine

Ok, I'll drop the lesser powered b16 engine in my Prelude to make it slower. Yeah.

you can take the integra gsr block (which has awesome top speed) and put on the integra ls heads (which has awesome acceleration)

Ok, I'll swap a lesser powered b18 in my Prelude to make it slower. Not only that, but I'll take a gsr block and smack on a worse flowing non-vtec head. And how do you figure block and head type as the determining factor of top speed and acceleration? Surely you must have an explanation for this.

go with a high name brand like greddy or ross. they both make forged pistons and rods, and are both top of the line internals for any vehicle.

Greddy does NOT make internals for ANY Honda (Unless you consider a head gasket a top of the line internal piece.) and even then, they only make it for a d16.

from my CUSTOM cold air intake made out of 3 inch dryer exhaust vent hose

Wait, so you're telling me you took this flimsy piece of shit http://www.cetsolar.com/images/dfehosethm.jpg and used it as an intake?

So you're trying to tell me that a WRX only has one head...



Ok, I'll drop the lesser powered b16 engine in my Prelude to make it slower. Yeah.



Ok, I'll swap a lesser powered b18 in my Prelude to make it slower. Not only that, but I'll take a gsr block and smack on a worse flowing non-vtec head. And how do you figure block and head type as the determining factor of top speed and acceleration? Surely you must have an explanation for this.



Greddy does NOT make internals for ANY Honda (Unless you consider a head gasket a top of the line internal piece.) and even then, they only make it for a d16.



Wait, so you're telling me you took this flimsy piece of shit http://www.cetsolar.com/images/dfehosethm.jpg and used it as an intake?
OMG that was harsh.
please refer to my sigs quote about this. the ownage has left me in awe!

Guys come on what are you accomplishing with this?
If nothing else take this to Email or AIM and stop wasting AF's bandwith with childish crap. :2cents:


but its so much fun!!

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another thing you could do is take the H23 block and put the H22 heads on it... that would be a pretty good swap for if your looking for another big hp gain.

i get so irritated with ppl bringing that crap up. if hes already going to build his internals on the h22 then that makes the h23 obsolete. the only time that steiner setup would be efficient is if he wasnt planning on building the block/pistons/rods in the first place which is stupid.

i get so irritated with ppl bringing that crap up. if hes already going to build his internals on the h22 then that makes the h23 obsolete. the only time that steiner setup would be efficient is if he wasnt planning on building the block/pistons/rods in the first place which is stupid.


its called "cut and paste". they see crap from somewhere else and so they copy and paste it here...

ok i think the thread is due to be closed up. can a moderator help?

yeah can a mod close this it isnt getting me anywhere so close this one and i will start a new one that hopfully people wont post stupid stuff Thanx Hellbringer