Is there a stronger engine I can swap out my 420a with?
Lahardbodie
02-22-2005, 09:37 PM
Ok guys I have a 95 GS with 115k and tons of show mods like 19" rims, bomex body kit, system, lots of chrome under the hood, undercar neons, and so on. But now I'm wanting more horsepower. ]Now instead of spending $8k on rebuilding with better internals and putting a HRC stage 2 kit on and all that I've been watching Overhaulin on the speed channel a lot and been seeing how you can order all these crate engines. Is there any other stonger engine like say an EVO engine as an example (as I know that wouldnt fit) that I could buy new straight out of the box and put in place of my 420a motor? That way I wouldnt have to fool with rebuilding and turboing and all. thanks
LA.
LA.
Raz_Kaz
02-22-2005, 09:41 PM
Sure one of the Evo's engine can fit the DSM.
4G63 baby!
4G63 baby!
Lahardbodie
02-22-2005, 09:43 PM
Please do not sugguest the 4g63 as I already know what a large amount of trouble and expense it would be to attempt doing. thanks
LA.
LA.
Raz_Kaz
02-22-2005, 09:47 PM
unless it's custom made, good luck finding one that will fit perfectly witrhout any moving around
jose02907
02-22-2005, 10:07 PM
i want
jose02907
02-22-2005, 10:17 PM
i want to swap my engine with awd turbo from a1990 talon to a1992 to1994 hyunday elantra but im wondering if its posible to swap also the awd to the elantra will it fit
drdisque
02-23-2005, 04:18 AM
the elantra isn't made with the clearances and mounting points that would make AWD a reasonable conversion. For example the rear differential would interfere with the fuel tank. If you were to convert a DSM you'd just get an AWD DSM fuel tank, but there is no such thing for an Elantra so you'd have to run a fuel cell in your trunk.
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-23-2005, 02:39 PM
ok slow boy racing has build motors for the 420a if thats what you are looking for.. http://www.slowboyracing.com/Race_Engines.html
hope that help you some
hope that help you some
AngelOfNight 9
02-23-2005, 02:57 PM
Please do not sugguest the 4g63 as I already know what a large amount of trouble and expense it would be to attempt doing. thanks
LA.
My homeboy and I just swapped out his 420A from his 97 RS with a 4G63T from a 94 GS Turbo. It's not as hard as you think, we just had to change the ECU, the speedometer, and the motor mounts had to be changed. Welded in a new Clutch pedal with little minor odds & ends and we were straight.
LA.
My homeboy and I just swapped out his 420A from his 97 RS with a 4G63T from a 94 GS Turbo. It's not as hard as you think, we just had to change the ECU, the speedometer, and the motor mounts had to be changed. Welded in a new Clutch pedal with little minor odds & ends and we were straight.
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-23-2005, 03:05 PM
tranny is on other side how did you get the mounts right? if it was easy PLEASE PLEASE make a site on it with pics so every one else can do this there is at least 1 a week asking this
AngelOfNight 9
02-23-2005, 03:17 PM
tranny is on other side how did you get the mounts right? if it was easy PLEASE PLEASE make a site on it with pics so every one else can do this there is at least 1 a week asking this
We plan on opening our own site up next year but in the mean time, I will post pics of my 91 TSI AWD with pics from when I first bought it smashed up and the motor all yellow and black with pics of me changing everything around. I'll post pics of his car from before and after as well. When we're done with the body ;) There might be a pic with me bitchin from being frustrated here and there though. lol I'll post a pic of my whole team this spring.
We plan on opening our own site up next year but in the mean time, I will post pics of my 91 TSI AWD with pics from when I first bought it smashed up and the motor all yellow and black with pics of me changing everything around. I'll post pics of his car from before and after as well. When we're done with the body ;) There might be a pic with me bitchin from being frustrated here and there though. lol I'll post a pic of my whole team this spring.
macder
02-23-2005, 07:26 PM
I think we want to see this 2G RS w/ a 4g63, not your 1G w/a 4g63. And if you did do this, then you are somewhat retarded since selling the RS, and using the money you would have used for the swap, would of got u a 2G 4g63 DSM. Not to mention you'd probably live longer.
BTW, Your "Homeboy" sh*t has to stop, it say's alot about your general intelligence level. I'm sick of reading your retarded post's.
BTW, Your "Homeboy" sh*t has to stop, it say's alot about your general intelligence level. I'm sick of reading your retarded post's.
imtheoneandonlyD
02-23-2005, 07:58 PM
I believe you can swap a sebring motor into the rs/gs. But im not 100% on that.
AngelOfNight 9
02-23-2005, 08:34 PM
I think we want to see this 2G RS w/ a 4g63, not your 1G w/a 4g63. And if you did do this, then you are somewhat retarded since selling the RS, and using the money you would have used for the swap, would of got u a 2G 4g63 DSM. Not to mention you'd probably live longer.
BTW, Your "Homeboy" sh*t has to stop, it say's alot about your general intelligence level. I'm sick of reading your retarded post's.
Would saying "my friend" suit you better? Were you brought up in the back hills possibly? As for intelligence, I majored in Criminal Justice. After I finish MOS training next year I'm going to UTI for a year. You're ignorant to judge someone by saying one solitary word "homeboy" Is it too ghetto for you? Possibly because you're from Canada, ay?
As for our swap, you made little sense on what you had posted.
'My FRIEND' found a 94 GS Turbo Eclipse for $500 at an auction to use the motor and tranny for his 97 RS. He also sold his stock 420A for 500 afterwards to some other guy who shot a rod right threw his oil pan and was searching for a quick swap. As for living longer, the car is a hell of a lot safer now than it ever would've been stock. The only one retarded is you. :loser: "Yet another example of someone with a smart comment when I'm minding my own business posting.. because he doesn't care for a word I use periodically & doesn't believe we did a swap for as cheap as we have"
BTW, Your "Homeboy" sh*t has to stop, it say's alot about your general intelligence level. I'm sick of reading your retarded post's.
Would saying "my friend" suit you better? Were you brought up in the back hills possibly? As for intelligence, I majored in Criminal Justice. After I finish MOS training next year I'm going to UTI for a year. You're ignorant to judge someone by saying one solitary word "homeboy" Is it too ghetto for you? Possibly because you're from Canada, ay?
As for our swap, you made little sense on what you had posted.
'My FRIEND' found a 94 GS Turbo Eclipse for $500 at an auction to use the motor and tranny for his 97 RS. He also sold his stock 420A for 500 afterwards to some other guy who shot a rod right threw his oil pan and was searching for a quick swap. As for living longer, the car is a hell of a lot safer now than it ever would've been stock. The only one retarded is you. :loser: "Yet another example of someone with a smart comment when I'm minding my own business posting.. because he doesn't care for a word I use periodically & doesn't believe we did a swap for as cheap as we have"
imtheoneandonlyD
02-24-2005, 03:13 AM
^ i wasnt brought up in the hills and it annoys even me. But maybe thats cause im from MN ey? Im sure we dont know your ghetto-fab ebonics.
bighauns
02-24-2005, 03:26 AM
Possibly because you're from Canada, ay?
Seriously man, get a life. Don't even start on this Canadian Bullshit. I am from Canada and I would like to honestly think that there are next to no Canadians on this forum who start shit.
That is one of the most pathetic and ignorant things to say. There are so many generalizations about "Americans" that I brush off and ignor because for the most part they do not fit you guys. However, it appears that you fit the glove about perfectly.
"Yet another ignorant bastard who talks down an entire country because he is well...ignorant"
You are the reason that lots of the world hates Americans, it only take a few people to ruin it for the lot. Lukily, I still have faith in the rest of your country, unlike many others.
Grow up.
You can't even spell EH right.
Seriously man, get a life. Don't even start on this Canadian Bullshit. I am from Canada and I would like to honestly think that there are next to no Canadians on this forum who start shit.
That is one of the most pathetic and ignorant things to say. There are so many generalizations about "Americans" that I brush off and ignor because for the most part they do not fit you guys. However, it appears that you fit the glove about perfectly.
"Yet another ignorant bastard who talks down an entire country because he is well...ignorant"
You are the reason that lots of the world hates Americans, it only take a few people to ruin it for the lot. Lukily, I still have faith in the rest of your country, unlike many others.
Grow up.
You can't even spell EH right.
imtheoneandonlyD
02-24-2005, 05:23 AM
Seriously man, get a life. Don't even start on this Canadian Bullshit. I am from Canada and I would like to honestly think that there are next to no Canadians on this forum who start shit.
That is one of the most pathetic and ignorant things to say. There are so many generalizations about "Americans" that I brush off and ignor because for the most part they do not fit you guys. However, it appears that you fit the glove about perfectly.
"Yet another ignorant bastard who talks down an entire country because he is well...ignorant"
You are the reason that lots of the world hates Americans, it only take a few people to ruin it for the lot. Lukily, I still have faith in the rest of your country, unlike many others.
Grow up.
You can't even spell EH right.
:werd:
Hit the nail on the head with that one.
That is one of the most pathetic and ignorant things to say. There are so many generalizations about "Americans" that I brush off and ignor because for the most part they do not fit you guys. However, it appears that you fit the glove about perfectly.
"Yet another ignorant bastard who talks down an entire country because he is well...ignorant"
You are the reason that lots of the world hates Americans, it only take a few people to ruin it for the lot. Lukily, I still have faith in the rest of your country, unlike many others.
Grow up.
You can't even spell EH right.
:werd:
Hit the nail on the head with that one.
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-24-2005, 12:22 PM
YES HE DID!! about the seabring motor it "could" work i guess just because it is a 420a. The problem i see with that is the intake minifold in in the front. Also im not sure i would swap out a 420 for a 420 just my opinion.
AngelOfNight 9
02-24-2005, 12:27 PM
^ i wasnt brought up in the hills and it annoys even me. But maybe thats cause im from MN ey? Im sure we dont know your ghetto-fab ebonics.
(imtheoneandonlyD) I quoted Macder in response to his smart comment (for no reason), not you. If you would've payed attention to my post you would've realized that, sorry.
(bighauns) I'm part French Canadian. As for my comment from him being from Canada, I was asking him if using the word homeboy= ignorance, possibly from the fact of growing up in a completely different place. I've never heard of anyone call their friend "homeboy" whenever I visit, no matter how ghetto or rock they are. He had no right to judge someone's intelligence and to start this whole issue because of the fact that he doesn't like when I use the word homeboy, hypocrite. I don't have the right to defend myself? It's funny how people start with me for no valid reason, it's always me defending myself because of someone's smart ass comment...
lol This whole thing started because macder posted his ignorant comments towards me(scroll back and see) You guys are amazing. Just drop it and focu on the topic at hand, which I was doing to begin with.
(imtheoneandonlyD) I quoted Macder in response to his smart comment (for no reason), not you. If you would've payed attention to my post you would've realized that, sorry.
(bighauns) I'm part French Canadian. As for my comment from him being from Canada, I was asking him if using the word homeboy= ignorance, possibly from the fact of growing up in a completely different place. I've never heard of anyone call their friend "homeboy" whenever I visit, no matter how ghetto or rock they are. He had no right to judge someone's intelligence and to start this whole issue because of the fact that he doesn't like when I use the word homeboy, hypocrite. I don't have the right to defend myself? It's funny how people start with me for no valid reason, it's always me defending myself because of someone's smart ass comment...
lol This whole thing started because macder posted his ignorant comments towards me(scroll back and see) You guys are amazing. Just drop it and focu on the topic at hand, which I was doing to begin with.
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-24-2005, 12:36 PM
still that should have never been posted in the first place
AngelOfNight 9
02-24-2005, 12:44 PM
still that should have never been posted in the first place
You posted before I was done editing my post, as for macder, he shouldn't have attacked me for no reason. I have a right do defend myself do I not? Just drop it bro, I don't wan't any problems with anyone.
You posted before I was done editing my post, as for macder, he shouldn't have attacked me for no reason. I have a right do defend myself do I not? Just drop it bro, I don't wan't any problems with anyone.
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-24-2005, 12:50 PM
read noob needs help i was an ass about 4 days ago it's still going lol
bighauns
02-24-2005, 06:18 PM
He had no right to judge someone's intelligence and to start this whole issue because of the fact that he doesn't like when I use the word homeboy, hypocrite.
And you had no right to judge Canadians about their "ignorance" to what people say. You made a play on Canadians, I know it because you said "ay". I know of quite a few people who use "homeboy" and other "gangsta" terms in Canada.
And you had no right to judge Canadians about their "ignorance" to what people say. You made a play on Canadians, I know it because you said "ay". I know of quite a few people who use "homeboy" and other "gangsta" terms in Canada.
imtheoneandonlyD
02-24-2005, 06:23 PM
And you had no right to judge Canadians about their "ignorance" to what people say. You made a play on Canadians, I know it because you said "ay". I know of quite a few people who use "homeboy" and other "gangsta" terms in Canada.
No way, i thought canadians just went ice fishing. jk.
No way, i thought canadians just went ice fishing. jk.
macder
02-24-2005, 06:31 PM
Actualy the slang we use in Canada is the same as in the USA, and most of us leave it for the street. This is an auto forum that try's to keep some level of proffesionalism. Read EclipseRST's thread about the rules and using slang's in this forum. You also obviously did not understand the "live longer part", it has nothing to do with the safety of the car, so if your so smart, you would have clued in right away. But sorry, apparently swaping out a 420a for a 4g63 is pretty "easy". Your facts are backwards dude.
As for your comment about Canadians, there is no reason to insult an entire nation because you felt insulted. Looking at your previous post's, you seem to get into some sort of argument in almost every thread. Take a hint.
As for your comment about Canadians, there is no reason to insult an entire nation because you felt insulted. Looking at your previous post's, you seem to get into some sort of argument in almost every thread. Take a hint.
lukedogg8706
02-24-2005, 06:44 PM
You guys dont know how bad flamming is looked down upon when people see our forums. I didn't realize how much went on here, especially with longer time members, not just noobs around here. This is supossed to be a professional auto forum, not a damn crack house.
drewh4386
02-24-2005, 11:57 PM
You guys dont know how bad flamming is looked down upon when people see our forums. I didn't realize how much went on here, especially with longer time members, not just noobs around here. This is supossed to be a professional auto forum, not a damn crack house.
I agree. someone is always starting shit with somebody else instead of helping that matter at hand. You have all these new post that place the thread at the top and attract the attention to the post. Sometimes they are pointless and bullshitty (including this post). In some cases it cause people to not want to post because of the band wagon flaming. nobody really wants there dsm intelligence questioned when they post a honest answer there question. but if somebody needs to be corrected, then do it. you only help that person and everybody else out. I come here every now and then to gain knowledge, not read peoples generalizations on national preferences.
I agree. someone is always starting shit with somebody else instead of helping that matter at hand. You have all these new post that place the thread at the top and attract the attention to the post. Sometimes they are pointless and bullshitty (including this post). In some cases it cause people to not want to post because of the band wagon flaming. nobody really wants there dsm intelligence questioned when they post a honest answer there question. but if somebody needs to be corrected, then do it. you only help that person and everybody else out. I come here every now and then to gain knowledge, not read peoples generalizations on national preferences.
pr0
02-25-2005, 03:45 PM
The PT turbo motor perhaps? It would probably be easier than the 4g63t swap...
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