how quick would this setup be or quess
kingpinn
02-21-2005, 10:07 PM
what do you think a stock d16a6 stock crxsi 91 with 8psi from a good turbo setup will run in the 1/4mile yes i know there are alot factors to add in but just quess do you thiink its go for high 14's or what just tell me what you think
icE_x
02-21-2005, 10:10 PM
low 15s high 14s? depends on lots of things, but mostly the condition of the engine
not sure but is it safe to run 8 psi on a stock engine?
not sure but is it safe to run 8 psi on a stock engine?
kingpinn
02-21-2005, 10:14 PM
that i dont know but we will leave it there since it already there
doug294
02-21-2005, 10:34 PM
Between 5-8 psi on a good running A6 should be fine. Also what size turbo you talking about? 8 psi out of a T25 and 8psi out of a T4 are a really big difference.
kingpinn
02-21-2005, 11:00 PM
well let say a t4
icE_x
02-21-2005, 11:00 PM
^ true forgot about that - size DOES matter lol
civickiller
02-22-2005, 12:54 AM
high 14s
steve-o317
02-22-2005, 09:28 PM
well let say a t4
t4's are huge for our cars arent they?
youll probably also have quite a bit of lag to boost
t4's are huge for our cars arent they?
youll probably also have quite a bit of lag to boost
kingpinn
02-22-2005, 09:53 PM
then what is the best turbo for our cars ?
steve-o317
02-22-2005, 10:05 PM
then what is the best turbo for our cars ?
i think the ihi rhb5 (might be a little off but close) is a small turbo good for a first project spools quick and is set somewhere around 5psi can be found on some ford cars like probes i think. the t3 is also good smaller than t4 alot more practical. most turbos you can find in a junkyard that came stock on a car work pretty well.
i think the ihi rhb5 (might be a little off but close) is a small turbo good for a first project spools quick and is set somewhere around 5psi can be found on some ford cars like probes i think. the t3 is also good smaller than t4 alot more practical. most turbos you can find in a junkyard that came stock on a car work pretty well.
icE_x
02-22-2005, 10:08 PM
depends on what your objective is, jus plain ol speed?
doug294
02-22-2005, 10:22 PM
Yeah if you want something that spools quick and has a nice punch I would go with a T25 or T28.
kingpinn
02-23-2005, 09:23 PM
yes just speed.... but needs to handle putting out 15psi in a while when the time comes.....
thanks
thanks
doug294
02-23-2005, 11:31 PM
I would go with a T28. Spools quick and can push 15-18psi if I remember correctly.
91civicDXdude
02-24-2005, 09:02 AM
I ran 10psi every day for over 6 months on my stock block Y7/Z6 minime with no problems. it hauled ass.
An engines ability to handle boost is not limited by psi, but rather power output capability (can the rods/pistons/etc. physically take the power outputted by X amount of psi), and fuel and spark management. You can easily blow an engine with 5psi with imporper management, and can also as easily run 10-12psi on astock d series with proper management, although i wouldn't recommend more than 10psi daily.
As was said, your time all depends on your drag racing skills, tuning, weight of the car, track conditions, etc.
If you had slicks, and ran a *perfect* run (1.9 60', perfect shifting, perfect conditions), you could possibly run a 13.9 or so, but if i was to guess, i'd say you should expect mid 14s.
An engines ability to handle boost is not limited by psi, but rather power output capability (can the rods/pistons/etc. physically take the power outputted by X amount of psi), and fuel and spark management. You can easily blow an engine with 5psi with imporper management, and can also as easily run 10-12psi on astock d series with proper management, although i wouldn't recommend more than 10psi daily.
As was said, your time all depends on your drag racing skills, tuning, weight of the car, track conditions, etc.
If you had slicks, and ran a *perfect* run (1.9 60', perfect shifting, perfect conditions), you could possibly run a 13.9 or so, but if i was to guess, i'd say you should expect mid 14s.
doug294
02-24-2005, 10:05 AM
[QUOTE=91civicDXdude]I ran 10psi every day for over 6 months on my stock block Y7/Z6 minime with no problems. it hauled ass.
An engines ability to handle boost is not limited by psi, but rather power output capability (can the rods/pistons/etc. physically take the power outputted by X amount of psi), and fuel and spark management. You can easily blow an engine with 5psi with imporper management, and can also as easily run 10-12psi on astock d series with proper management, although i wouldn't recommend more than 10psi daily.
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Yeah this is the man to listen to. I was just saying 5-8 psi because aren't the d series rods only rated for 200hp?
An engines ability to handle boost is not limited by psi, but rather power output capability (can the rods/pistons/etc. physically take the power outputted by X amount of psi), and fuel and spark management. You can easily blow an engine with 5psi with imporper management, and can also as easily run 10-12psi on astock d series with proper management, although i wouldn't recommend more than 10psi daily.
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Yeah this is the man to listen to. I was just saying 5-8 psi because aren't the d series rods only rated for 200hp?
clawhammer
02-24-2005, 10:33 AM
youll probably also have quite a bit of lag to boost
Remeber, he's talking about 1/4. There is NO turbo lag in the 1/4
Remeber, he's talking about 1/4. There is NO turbo lag in the 1/4
Dastreetracer
02-24-2005, 10:58 AM
you might run like 14s but also it depends on the driver if u are good at racing or not.
91civicDXdude
02-24-2005, 01:35 PM
Yeah this is the man to listen to. I was just saying 5-8 psi because aren't the d series rods only rated for 200hp?
200hp is a good round number to rate them with, i personally would say they can handle maybe 250tops..but i will almost guarantee that you wont hit 200hp @ 8psi
in my personal experience, its not the rods that break (unless you boost a d15), its usually bearings that get spun, head gaskets blow, or you break ring lands from detonation.
Its all about management. A guy on www.homemadeturbo.com has an EG coupe with a stock block d16z6, and he hit 230whp @12psi, and ran a mid 12 in the 1/4.. he has very good management and probably doesnt run 12psi daily.
I state this from personal experience: As long as you have proper fuel and are not detonating (regardless of whether or not the engine is tuned for maximum power), then a d series can handle 10psi with no problem.
and as for this guy...
Remeber, he's talking about 1/4. There is NO turbo lag in the 1/4
you have no idea what you're talking about. turbo lag has nothing to do with the distance raced, turbo lag is the time it takes the turbo reach full spool (maximum psi). with my setup, i reached 10psi by about 3500rpm (it could've been a lower rpm, but my charge pipes were unnecessary long and large in diameter)...the time you spend from idle to 3500 rpm is considered turbo lag. my turbo lag was not very noticeable, and usually wont be on any setup unless you have an abnormally large turbo.
200hp is a good round number to rate them with, i personally would say they can handle maybe 250tops..but i will almost guarantee that you wont hit 200hp @ 8psi
in my personal experience, its not the rods that break (unless you boost a d15), its usually bearings that get spun, head gaskets blow, or you break ring lands from detonation.
Its all about management. A guy on www.homemadeturbo.com has an EG coupe with a stock block d16z6, and he hit 230whp @12psi, and ran a mid 12 in the 1/4.. he has very good management and probably doesnt run 12psi daily.
I state this from personal experience: As long as you have proper fuel and are not detonating (regardless of whether or not the engine is tuned for maximum power), then a d series can handle 10psi with no problem.
and as for this guy...
Remeber, he's talking about 1/4. There is NO turbo lag in the 1/4
you have no idea what you're talking about. turbo lag has nothing to do with the distance raced, turbo lag is the time it takes the turbo reach full spool (maximum psi). with my setup, i reached 10psi by about 3500rpm (it could've been a lower rpm, but my charge pipes were unnecessary long and large in diameter)...the time you spend from idle to 3500 rpm is considered turbo lag. my turbo lag was not very noticeable, and usually wont be on any setup unless you have an abnormally large turbo.
kingpinn
02-24-2005, 02:36 PM
i know theres i alot that goes in to play but im not going to hold anyone to what they say i was just wondering ...... thanks every one
doug294
02-24-2005, 10:34 PM
Yeah management is the key. I plan on running 10.5:1 c/r Y8 with a turbo. Just will have to tune thr crap out of it.
jeef
02-25-2005, 06:47 AM
Yeah management is the key. I plan on running 10.5:1 c/r Y8 with a turbo. Just will have to tune thr crap out of it.
jeesh, how much boost are you going to run? Thats gonna be a bitch to tune right...
jeesh, how much boost are you going to run? Thats gonna be a bitch to tune right...
kingpinn
02-25-2005, 12:52 PM
doug what do you hope to run
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