Wachowski brothers stole Matrix idea from someone else?
publicenemy137
02-20-2005, 09:09 PM
Hmm I kinda had a hunch that the Wachowski brothers stoel the matrix story. The story began with a great story, something that only a brilliant mind could come up with. Then it ended horribly, I thought the middle and ending did not really seem very cohesive with the whole Matrix story. Anyways, it seems Sophia Stewart is the real writer. Here's the article:
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Who really wrote The Matrix?
By Nisa Islam Muhammad
Staff Writer
Updated Jan 4, 2005, 06:20 pm Refer this article
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Sophia Stewart
(FinalCall.com) - Screenplay writer Sophia Stewart is adamant that she is the author of the screenplay for the blockbuster movie, The Matrix, and her body of work was stolen. She is suing Warner Brothers, Joel Silver, Andy and Larry Wachowski in Los Angeles’ United States District Court in a case that has been defined as one of the largest suits for damages in the history of the film industry.
The case will be heard July 2005 by a jury to decide if, in fact, the defendants committed copyright infringement and racketeering for allegedly stealing Ms. Stewart’s work and then creating The Matrix. It has been a five-year battle with Ms. Stewart, as a little David against the motion picture industry as the Goliath.
“I’ve won major decisions in the court. I got the FBI involved from the very beginning. The copyright infringement involves two of the biggest movie franchises in film history, The Terminator and The Matrix. They stole my work and I have the evidence to prove it,” Ms. Stewart told The Final Call.
“I was completely blown away when I saw my work on the screen and I knew I hadn’t sold it to anyone. I shopped it around from 1981 to 1985 to Fox and in 1986 to the Wachowski brothers. I have the letters to prove they had access to my work. Fox is lying in federal court when they say they never had access to my work because I have the signed registered returned receipts and a lot of letters of access from them,” she said.
She further explained, “I created an epic—which is a body of work that you can get six or more movies from. The Matrix is a derivative of The Terminator. The Matrix comes from the future part of the epic.”
The book is called “The Third Eye” and is an epic science fiction manuscript with copyrights dating back to 1981.
“After viewing Star Wars, I thought, no one has done a science fiction version of the Second Coming of Christ, the foretelling of his Second Coming,” she said.
While Ms. Stewart was shopping her manuscript around, she also sent it to the Wachowski brothers in response to an ad looking for a science fiction manuscript to create a comic book.
During the FBI investigation, it was discovered that, in an effort to avoid liability, 30 minutes or more was edited from the original Matrix film. Further witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski brothers as they claimed.
The witnesses also added that the original work of Ms. Stewart had been seen, and often used during preparation of the motion pictures. During a Sept. 27 court proceeding, United States District Judge Margaret Morrow ruled against several motions made by the defendants in their attempt to get the suits against them dismissed.
The investigation done by the FBI not only established Ms. Stewart as the writer of The Matrix, but also surprisingly The Terminator. If she wins the case with her mounting piles of evidence, Ms. Stewart will receive damages in what may be one of the biggest payoffs in the history of Hollywood. The Terminator and its sequels, along with The Matrix and its sequels, have gross receipts totaling over $2.5 billion.
“Some people can’t believe a Black woman wrote The Matrix or The Terminator. I didn’t write it with my skin; I wrote it with my brain,” says Ms. Stewart. “Since when did skin color have anything to do with intelligence, like rich and powerful has nothing to do with theft. The poor steal because they’re needy; the rich steal because they’re greedy.”
CLICK HERE FOR THE ARTICLE (http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1745.shtml)
Who really wrote The Matrix?
By Nisa Islam Muhammad
Staff Writer
Updated Jan 4, 2005, 06:20 pm Refer this article
Print page
Sophia Stewart
(FinalCall.com) - Screenplay writer Sophia Stewart is adamant that she is the author of the screenplay for the blockbuster movie, The Matrix, and her body of work was stolen. She is suing Warner Brothers, Joel Silver, Andy and Larry Wachowski in Los Angeles’ United States District Court in a case that has been defined as one of the largest suits for damages in the history of the film industry.
The case will be heard July 2005 by a jury to decide if, in fact, the defendants committed copyright infringement and racketeering for allegedly stealing Ms. Stewart’s work and then creating The Matrix. It has been a five-year battle with Ms. Stewart, as a little David against the motion picture industry as the Goliath.
“I’ve won major decisions in the court. I got the FBI involved from the very beginning. The copyright infringement involves two of the biggest movie franchises in film history, The Terminator and The Matrix. They stole my work and I have the evidence to prove it,” Ms. Stewart told The Final Call.
“I was completely blown away when I saw my work on the screen and I knew I hadn’t sold it to anyone. I shopped it around from 1981 to 1985 to Fox and in 1986 to the Wachowski brothers. I have the letters to prove they had access to my work. Fox is lying in federal court when they say they never had access to my work because I have the signed registered returned receipts and a lot of letters of access from them,” she said.
She further explained, “I created an epic—which is a body of work that you can get six or more movies from. The Matrix is a derivative of The Terminator. The Matrix comes from the future part of the epic.”
The book is called “The Third Eye” and is an epic science fiction manuscript with copyrights dating back to 1981.
“After viewing Star Wars, I thought, no one has done a science fiction version of the Second Coming of Christ, the foretelling of his Second Coming,” she said.
While Ms. Stewart was shopping her manuscript around, she also sent it to the Wachowski brothers in response to an ad looking for a science fiction manuscript to create a comic book.
During the FBI investigation, it was discovered that, in an effort to avoid liability, 30 minutes or more was edited from the original Matrix film. Further witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski brothers as they claimed.
The witnesses also added that the original work of Ms. Stewart had been seen, and often used during preparation of the motion pictures. During a Sept. 27 court proceeding, United States District Judge Margaret Morrow ruled against several motions made by the defendants in their attempt to get the suits against them dismissed.
The investigation done by the FBI not only established Ms. Stewart as the writer of The Matrix, but also surprisingly The Terminator. If she wins the case with her mounting piles of evidence, Ms. Stewart will receive damages in what may be one of the biggest payoffs in the history of Hollywood. The Terminator and its sequels, along with The Matrix and its sequels, have gross receipts totaling over $2.5 billion.
“Some people can’t believe a Black woman wrote The Matrix or The Terminator. I didn’t write it with my skin; I wrote it with my brain,” says Ms. Stewart. “Since when did skin color have anything to do with intelligence, like rich and powerful has nothing to do with theft. The poor steal because they’re needy; the rich steal because they’re greedy.”
imtheoneandonlyD
02-20-2005, 10:27 PM
wow. thats pretty crazy, I wanna know if its true and what the courts will rule.
eversio11
02-20-2005, 11:03 PM
I thought they already settled it? It was on Penny-Arcade a couple weeks ago
Marc-OS
02-20-2005, 11:05 PM
I did a little online research, and so far, it's sketchy if this lady is for real. I mean, this kind of story isn't really original, tons of sci-fi books have been written with very similar concepts (William Gibson for example). She'd be hard pressed to have a solid case that they really stole her story alone because her story shares the same concepts of older stories.
BP2K2Max
02-20-2005, 11:16 PM
The Matrix is a derivative of The Terminator. The Matrix comes from the future part of the epic.”
i remember just after the second Matrix movie came out i was talkin to my friends about how the terminator series and matrix series could be linked.
i remember just after the second Matrix movie came out i was talkin to my friends about how the terminator series and matrix series could be linked.
-Davo
02-21-2005, 04:14 AM
Interesting... 2.5 billion...damn...
DVS LT1
02-21-2005, 08:15 AM
I have a VERY hard time believing anyone but James Cameron created and/or wrote the Terminator. Whoever has seen specials on him or the bonus stuff from The Terminator will see he lived and breathed that idea.
And how does the Terminator and Matrix all fit together anyways? John Connor is suposed to be Neo or something??
And how does the Terminator and Matrix all fit together anyways? John Connor is suposed to be Neo or something??
BP2K2Max
02-21-2005, 09:30 AM
did you see terminator 3? the planet got blown up at the end. the matrix series would be the aftermath of that, John connor would probably have to die, and the machines would take over completely. then eventually the matrix series would begin.
lamehonda
02-21-2005, 03:54 PM
I can see the relation now. Kind of odd. Nothing is original anymore.
-Davo
03-14-2005, 11:45 PM
did you see terminator 3? the planet got blown up at the end. the matrix series would be the aftermath of that, John connor would probably have to die, and the machines would take over completely. then eventually the matrix series would begin.
woah I never saw that before.
And in T3 we learn that Connor does die, the Machine sent back to protect him and his bitch in T3 told him he was the one who pulled the plug on him.
woah I never saw that before.
And in T3 we learn that Connor does die, the Machine sent back to protect him and his bitch in T3 told him he was the one who pulled the plug on him.
Tony Stewart Fan
03-16-2005, 07:25 AM
It's pretty interesting that Terminator and Matrix could be related. I'd never really even thought about that before.
RedLightning
03-21-2005, 10:40 PM
wow.
SniperX13
03-21-2005, 11:02 PM
My question is, why throw the race card into it??? You already have proof from a FBI investigation that its your idea. I see no reason to bring up race, unless to draw more attention to your plight, which again, seems to be going well in her favor....
Tony Stewart Fan
03-22-2005, 07:42 AM
When I saw this thread title again, I remembered that one of the Wachowski brothers is undergoing a sex change and hormone treatments to become a woman. Anyone else heard this?
Zaphod Beeblebrox
03-29-2005, 09:18 AM
Don't ever link Terminator 3 with the Terminator 1 & 2. As far as I am concerned, T3 doens't exist.
dirtydx
03-29-2005, 01:06 PM
its so hard to come off as original nowadays.. no matter how good or honest an idea is, 3000 people are gonna claim it as their own. If she came up with the idea she shoulda made the movie, otherwise STFU, and stop trying to leech off people who got the job done.
tenguzero
04-08-2005, 07:05 PM
This is quite a crazy scenario, altough not unheard of. I should hope she pulled the race-card thing only in retaliation, perhaps for some comment made toward her in that vein -- otherwise that's kind of a cheap shot on her part.
I've always had a sort of hunch that The Terminators and The Matrix do indeed share a sort of kindred bond (actually, I can remember telling people in the past that I thought The Matrix was eerily similar to The Terminators in its fundamental premise.) But then again, authors like Stephenson and Gibson had already covered this territory, and before them Assimov and Dick, and so on. This, I suppose, is indeed the flaw inherent in this woman's claim. Everything she could present is technically circumstantial. Unless of course, Fox and the Wachowski brothers utilized actual NAMES, LABELS, and perhaps DIALOGUE from her works. But what the court is to decide on.
I could write and publish a book about humans who are trapped inside a construct created by machines and computers, and the ongoing liberation efforts of a select group, set it in a future world, and have the protagonist be a brooding computer hacker utilizing the handle "TenguZero." And I wouldn't be in violation of anything beyond that of sheer unoriginality. Now, if I wrote and published a book about a construct called "The Matrix," where a character named "Neo" battled in a cyber world designed by "The Architect," THEN I might be in for some trouble.
The woman's claims, while seemingly legit enough, are still, really, nothing more than an interesting point for comparison. Unless she does indeed have HARD EVIDENCE directly linking the films with her own work.
I've always had a sort of hunch that The Terminators and The Matrix do indeed share a sort of kindred bond (actually, I can remember telling people in the past that I thought The Matrix was eerily similar to The Terminators in its fundamental premise.) But then again, authors like Stephenson and Gibson had already covered this territory, and before them Assimov and Dick, and so on. This, I suppose, is indeed the flaw inherent in this woman's claim. Everything she could present is technically circumstantial. Unless of course, Fox and the Wachowski brothers utilized actual NAMES, LABELS, and perhaps DIALOGUE from her works. But what the court is to decide on.
I could write and publish a book about humans who are trapped inside a construct created by machines and computers, and the ongoing liberation efforts of a select group, set it in a future world, and have the protagonist be a brooding computer hacker utilizing the handle "TenguZero." And I wouldn't be in violation of anything beyond that of sheer unoriginality. Now, if I wrote and published a book about a construct called "The Matrix," where a character named "Neo" battled in a cyber world designed by "The Architect," THEN I might be in for some trouble.
The woman's claims, while seemingly legit enough, are still, really, nothing more than an interesting point for comparison. Unless she does indeed have HARD EVIDENCE directly linking the films with her own work.
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