Canyon Carver
asaenz
02-19-2005, 04:20 PM
Not another G-machine :)
Here is a 1992 Mustang.
I drew this for my neighbor-it is his car-except I made it look cooler by enlarging the cobra rims, increasing the off set, and putting super fat low profile tires on the ride.
The fox body isn't my favorite stang but they do look good w/ lowering and cobra rims.
http://www.saenzartworks.com/art/canyon_carver2.jpg
I used: color pencil, pastel, prisma markers, and white gouache paint.
The rims look a lot better in the original, everyone says that hee hee.
I messed up in applying the front bumper highlight; it should have been brought further, towards the mouth of the car, oh well.
For the first time I mixed baby powder in w/ the pastels and it help tremendously to achieve softer applications. I also used workable fixative for the first time (Grumbacher matte). I have used permanent before and then paint over it but it is much better to paint over workable than permanent fixative, to me.
One day I am going to try an entire gouache rendering.
Thanks for checking it out.
Al
Here is a 1992 Mustang.
I drew this for my neighbor-it is his car-except I made it look cooler by enlarging the cobra rims, increasing the off set, and putting super fat low profile tires on the ride.
The fox body isn't my favorite stang but they do look good w/ lowering and cobra rims.
http://www.saenzartworks.com/art/canyon_carver2.jpg
I used: color pencil, pastel, prisma markers, and white gouache paint.
The rims look a lot better in the original, everyone says that hee hee.
I messed up in applying the front bumper highlight; it should have been brought further, towards the mouth of the car, oh well.
For the first time I mixed baby powder in w/ the pastels and it help tremendously to achieve softer applications. I also used workable fixative for the first time (Grumbacher matte). I have used permanent before and then paint over it but it is much better to paint over workable than permanent fixative, to me.
One day I am going to try an entire gouache rendering.
Thanks for checking it out.
Al
Magliano
02-19-2005, 05:10 PM
:eek2: AMAZING :eek2:
"...I messed up in applying the front bumper highlight..."
Hehehe i wish i could "mess up" my drawing like this hehehe
Great work! Professional!
See'ya!
Magliano
"...I messed up in applying the front bumper highlight..."
Hehehe i wish i could "mess up" my drawing like this hehehe
Great work! Professional!
See'ya!
Magliano
Kanibal
02-19-2005, 06:50 PM
some of the best reflections ive seen. as far as the front bumper highlight dont worry about it, it is not noticable.
the only thing that I can see wrong with it(and this is really reaching for a crit) is the tread highlight on the tires is too bright. other than that it's just perfect.
the only thing that I can see wrong with it(and this is really reaching for a crit) is the tread highlight on the tires is too bright. other than that it's just perfect.
Jeep_Rubicon
02-19-2005, 09:17 PM
Thats awesome!!!
bonzelite
02-20-2005, 03:20 AM
hmm. nice!!!
was about time you posted some artwork, al.
only crit is what kanibal says: tone down the tread hi-lites.
other than that, man. i'm just enjoying looking at it. the way it should be. you nailed it, man:)
was about time you posted some artwork, al.
only crit is what kanibal says: tone down the tread hi-lites.
other than that, man. i'm just enjoying looking at it. the way it should be. you nailed it, man:)
knightvision
02-20-2005, 05:04 AM
Wow that's sweet. I love the reflections on the side.
asaenz
02-20-2005, 07:43 AM
some of the best reflections ive seen. as far as the front bumper highlight dont worry about it, it is not noticable.
the only thing that I can see wrong with it(and this is really reaching for a crit) is the tread highlight on the tires is too bright. other than that it's just perfect.
Thx Kanibal and Bonzelite
Yup, something did bother me about the tires and I couldn't figure it out. Well I new it had something to do w/ the highlights. I am still trying to figure out how/when to apply them. I will lighten the highlights.
Thanks to everyone else for your compliments.
One cool thing I tried w/ this car was to use stumps. I rubbed them in some pastel (I scrapped off w/ a knife) and then go over marker or other parts of the car to add some tone. It worked great. I would also flick them with my finger to knock of excess grains of chalk so that they wouldn't get all over the work.
al
the only thing that I can see wrong with it(and this is really reaching for a crit) is the tread highlight on the tires is too bright. other than that it's just perfect.
Thx Kanibal and Bonzelite
Yup, something did bother me about the tires and I couldn't figure it out. Well I new it had something to do w/ the highlights. I am still trying to figure out how/when to apply them. I will lighten the highlights.
Thanks to everyone else for your compliments.
One cool thing I tried w/ this car was to use stumps. I rubbed them in some pastel (I scrapped off w/ a knife) and then go over marker or other parts of the car to add some tone. It worked great. I would also flick them with my finger to knock of excess grains of chalk so that they wouldn't get all over the work.
al
stuffbyalex
02-20-2005, 01:40 PM
Great work Al! You're making me want to try pastels. those tire highlights, are those gouache?
When you render, do you blend the pastel into the paper first and then add marker?
Alex
When you render, do you blend the pastel into the paper first and then add marker?
Alex
Zwofurti
02-20-2005, 05:38 PM
looks nice Al!!
though it looks like the left side of the windshield is just a littla to low, not much, but just a little little!
nice reflections, superb, just like all your artwork!
though it looks like the left side of the windshield is just a littla to low, not much, but just a little little!
nice reflections, superb, just like all your artwork!
1saac
02-20-2005, 07:00 PM
Wow.
asaenz
02-20-2005, 08:41 PM
Great work Al! You're making me want to try pastels. those tire highlights, are those gouache?
When you render, do you blend the pastel into the paper first and then add marker?
Alex
Thx Alex,
My steps in order:
-Draw the car and most details w/ pencil
-Go over all parts w/ French curves and ellipses using color pencils
(black and blue for this ride) For the soft pastel tones I use very light
color pencils (soft touch) so the pastel can cover up the lines.
-Apply marker
-Use several maskings (Frisket film) and cut out the parts that will have
pastel applied to them. I then work from light pastel colors (blues and
grays for the rims) and then do the tires. I use about 3 masking layers
2 for the body and windows and one for the dark grays and blacks
(tires). I also apply workable fixative b/t layers
-Use my stumps to apply more chalk (no masking this time).
-Gouache the highlights (this is where the drawing comes together).
Before this step the work looks like doodoo. :)
Yup the tires have white gouache.
Here is a link, never mind that the rendering looks bad.
I did it on printer paper and that stuff is too smooth. I used vellum on the stang and my shelby cobra.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t103473.html
I don't show using the stump or talc powder. I am still learning how to use that stuff (talc).
though it looks like the left side of the windshield is just a littla to low, not much, but just a little little!
Thx Zwofurti, you are right and I think it is that darn gray window banner. I can't really fix that but once I applied the marker I thought something bothered me about it, oh well.
Thx Isaac
Al
I fixed the highlights and the bumper.
http://www.saenzartworks.com/art/canyon_carver3.jpg
When you render, do you blend the pastel into the paper first and then add marker?
Alex
Thx Alex,
My steps in order:
-Draw the car and most details w/ pencil
-Go over all parts w/ French curves and ellipses using color pencils
(black and blue for this ride) For the soft pastel tones I use very light
color pencils (soft touch) so the pastel can cover up the lines.
-Apply marker
-Use several maskings (Frisket film) and cut out the parts that will have
pastel applied to them. I then work from light pastel colors (blues and
grays for the rims) and then do the tires. I use about 3 masking layers
2 for the body and windows and one for the dark grays and blacks
(tires). I also apply workable fixative b/t layers
-Use my stumps to apply more chalk (no masking this time).
-Gouache the highlights (this is where the drawing comes together).
Before this step the work looks like doodoo. :)
Yup the tires have white gouache.
Here is a link, never mind that the rendering looks bad.
I did it on printer paper and that stuff is too smooth. I used vellum on the stang and my shelby cobra.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t103473.html
I don't show using the stump or talc powder. I am still learning how to use that stuff (talc).
though it looks like the left side of the windshield is just a littla to low, not much, but just a little little!
Thx Zwofurti, you are right and I think it is that darn gray window banner. I can't really fix that but once I applied the marker I thought something bothered me about it, oh well.
Thx Isaac
Al
I fixed the highlights and the bumper.
http://www.saenzartworks.com/art/canyon_carver3.jpg
stuffbyalex
02-20-2005, 10:07 PM
ahh, now it's perfect :).
btw, have you ever tried watering down the gouache paint? It works for me on prismacolor renderings when I need highlights that aren't 100% white.
Alex
btw, have you ever tried watering down the gouache paint? It works for me on prismacolor renderings when I need highlights that aren't 100% white.
Alex
Jeep_Rubicon
02-20-2005, 10:37 PM
Looks better, how long did it take?
Zwofurti
02-21-2005, 05:40 AM
beautiful!!
asaenz
02-23-2005, 04:40 PM
ahh, now it's perfect :).
btw, have you ever tried watering down the gouache paint? It works for me on prismacolor renderings when I need highlights that aren't 100% white.
Alex
Yes I watered it down some on the front bumper highlight before applying the paint.
Have you had any luck getting gouache to fade/blend like watercolor washes? I hope I am making sense. I mean apply water to the paint while it is on the artwork to get it to fade. I was trying to do that but after examining some artwork by another artist I couldn't see how it would wash to clear like w/ watercolors. I read that you can fade the edges of gouache paint by re-activating it once it has dried w/ just a water load on a brush (on the artwork). I will have to try that and experiment some more.
how long did it take?
I would say about 20 hrs, but I didn't really time myself. It takes long because I want it to look good, but I still mess something up. :) I think they take awhile for me because this is only my 3rd completed work like this (5 total attempted, one screw up and one DNF (remember the Lieberman Skyline). :)
Thx Zwofurti
al
btw, have you ever tried watering down the gouache paint? It works for me on prismacolor renderings when I need highlights that aren't 100% white.
Alex
Yes I watered it down some on the front bumper highlight before applying the paint.
Have you had any luck getting gouache to fade/blend like watercolor washes? I hope I am making sense. I mean apply water to the paint while it is on the artwork to get it to fade. I was trying to do that but after examining some artwork by another artist I couldn't see how it would wash to clear like w/ watercolors. I read that you can fade the edges of gouache paint by re-activating it once it has dried w/ just a water load on a brush (on the artwork). I will have to try that and experiment some more.
how long did it take?
I would say about 20 hrs, but I didn't really time myself. It takes long because I want it to look good, but I still mess something up. :) I think they take awhile for me because this is only my 3rd completed work like this (5 total attempted, one screw up and one DNF (remember the Lieberman Skyline). :)
Thx Zwofurti
al
bonzelite
02-23-2005, 05:03 PM
i use gouache all of the time. you can thin it out before you apply it to be any level of transparency or opaqueness you want. you can rewet it once it is on the drawing, but only sparingly so. you don't want to overwet it again on the actual drawing.
you can it apply it, like glazes, in layers of transluscency.
you can it apply it, like glazes, in layers of transluscency.
asaenz
02-24-2005, 06:46 AM
i use gouache all of the time. you can thin it out before you apply it to be any level of transparency or opaqueness you want. you can rewet it once it is on the drawing, but only sparingly so. you don't want to overwet it again on the actual drawing.
you can it apply it, like glazes, in layers of transluscency.
Thx for the response Bonz.
Yes, I understand it can go on in glazes, but what about fading it like water color? With water color you can apply the paint then while it is still wet take a loaded brush (water only) and continue to load w/ water only until you get that nice graduation. You know I just thought about it. Gouache isn't meant to do that because it is opaque in nature, duh on me :).
Question:
W/ gouache using two different colors
How would you get a nice transition between the two colors?
Thx Bonz
al
you can it apply it, like glazes, in layers of transluscency.
Thx for the response Bonz.
Yes, I understand it can go on in glazes, but what about fading it like water color? With water color you can apply the paint then while it is still wet take a loaded brush (water only) and continue to load w/ water only until you get that nice graduation. You know I just thought about it. Gouache isn't meant to do that because it is opaque in nature, duh on me :).
Question:
W/ gouache using two different colors
How would you get a nice transition between the two colors?
Thx Bonz
al
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