Need New Struts...
bighauns
02-19-2005, 03:24 PM
Hey Guys!
I am just wondering about people experiences and opinions about different struts out there. I already have some coilovers (which, by the way, are junk). However, if I put a good quality set of struts they will be fine.
Now, I do not want to spend a fortune, but I want something that isnt garbage. Just wondering what you all think, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!!!
Alex
I am just wondering about people experiences and opinions about different struts out there. I already have some coilovers (which, by the way, are junk). However, if I put a good quality set of struts they will be fine.
Now, I do not want to spend a fortune, but I want something that isnt garbage. Just wondering what you all think, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!!!
Alex
kjewer1
02-19-2005, 05:00 PM
Coilover sleeves are cut for the specific shock they are going to be used for. The exception is konis, which dont have to come with a spring perch. What are you using now?
david-b
02-19-2005, 09:33 PM
Are struts hard to replace? I got to change my back ones (causeing uneven tire wear), and I want to do it myself. Hard?
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-19-2005, 09:42 PM
your uneven tire wear if from the camber caused by improperly lowering your car you need a camber kit. you need new shocks when you start bouncing all over the raod....you are wearing on the inside of the tire right? When i put coilovers on my old GS i had -7 camber on the rear looked like i was trying to fly the dam thing
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-19-2005, 09:43 PM
Oh to awnser your question they are easy as hell to replace
david-b
02-19-2005, 09:48 PM
Actually I got have coilovers. Ever since I got the car, the rear has made a rough kinda wobbly sound. At high speeds it can give you a headache. Mechanic said I need new shocks and new rear tires. Dont know how the wear is tho.
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-19-2005, 10:19 PM
if you want a tru performance set up you should get a kit. Sleeves just drop the car pretty much i paid about 550 for my set up. Tokico advanced handling kit
kjewer1
02-20-2005, 04:25 PM
your uneven tire wear if from the camber caused by improperly lowering your car you need a camber kit. you need new shocks when you start bouncing all over the raod....you are wearing on the inside of the tire right? When i put coilovers on my old GS i had -7 camber on the rear looked like i was trying to fly the dam thing
There is no possible way for you to know this over the internet. I have over 3 degrees of negative camber and my tires wear evenly, despite having no camber kit. I've explained elsewhere if you are interested in why. Additionally, bad shocks can cause uneven tire wear, usually scalloping, or a repeating patteren of low spots, IIRC. Not the same uneven tire wear you are thinking of and everyone already knows about. Like reading sparkplugs, there are a dozen different types of wear patterns to be looking for ;)
Oh to awnser your question they are easy as hell to replace
Try to say things like "can be," "should be," or "usually are easy to replace," etc. I have had to cut rear shocks off the car with a die grinder before because of corrosion. It may have been easy on your case, but it may not always be so.
if you want a tru performance set up you should get a kit. Sleeves just drop the car pretty much i paid about 550 for my set up. Tokico advanced handling kit
My GC coilover sleeves have dont quite well in circle track racing. In fact, some very successful autocross and road race DSMs are on a sleeve type coilover kit. If you choose the right shocks (custom valved Konis for example) and the correct spring rates, they perform very well. Have you taken your car to a track or do you just take highway ramps fast?
Not trying to pick on you, but you should add some qualifying statements to your posts to avoid sounding like you are just running off at the mouth on things you have vague experience with. It would add some credibility at least. :)
There is no possible way for you to know this over the internet. I have over 3 degrees of negative camber and my tires wear evenly, despite having no camber kit. I've explained elsewhere if you are interested in why. Additionally, bad shocks can cause uneven tire wear, usually scalloping, or a repeating patteren of low spots, IIRC. Not the same uneven tire wear you are thinking of and everyone already knows about. Like reading sparkplugs, there are a dozen different types of wear patterns to be looking for ;)
Oh to awnser your question they are easy as hell to replace
Try to say things like "can be," "should be," or "usually are easy to replace," etc. I have had to cut rear shocks off the car with a die grinder before because of corrosion. It may have been easy on your case, but it may not always be so.
if you want a tru performance set up you should get a kit. Sleeves just drop the car pretty much i paid about 550 for my set up. Tokico advanced handling kit
My GC coilover sleeves have dont quite well in circle track racing. In fact, some very successful autocross and road race DSMs are on a sleeve type coilover kit. If you choose the right shocks (custom valved Konis for example) and the correct spring rates, they perform very well. Have you taken your car to a track or do you just take highway ramps fast?
Not trying to pick on you, but you should add some qualifying statements to your posts to avoid sounding like you are just running off at the mouth on things you have vague experience with. It would add some credibility at least. :)
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-20-2005, 07:14 PM
Yes i have taken it to many diffrent tracks. I know you know your shit but above he said he has crappy coilovers. that is when i "FIGURED" he prob has mass camber i had skunk2 coils and ground control coils and in "my opinion" they fucking suck. on my SRT-4 i paid shit loads for the KW stage 3 set up.
kjewer1
02-21-2005, 01:05 AM
i had skunk2 coils and ground control coils and in "my opinion" they fucking suck. on my SRT-4 i paid shit loads for the KW stage 3 set up.
This is what I mean. We need some qualifying statements here. Why did they suck? The GC coilovers are just threaded sleeves, you can't fuck that up. The springs are Eibach standard diameter race springs. If the buyer chooses shitty rates is that GCs fault? What spring rates did you run and on what shock? The big difference between different CO kits and the threaded shock kits is the spring rates, relative to each other, the weight of the car, the lever ratio, shock bound/rebound damping, etc. Whoever is purchasing the coil overs should be doing the research and asking for the appropriate spring rates. I chose 450 front and 325 rear, with Illuminas, and it rides and handles great. Also pulls as low as 1.55 seconds 60 foot times on 17" low profile all seasons. Someone else may run the same rates on different shocks, or the different spring rates on the same shocks, etc, and get shitty results. See my point? you can't blame GC or any CO sleeve company for ride or handling, its simply not up to them. A threaded sleeve is a threaded sleeve, no matter how you slice it. :)
This is what I mean. We need some qualifying statements here. Why did they suck? The GC coilovers are just threaded sleeves, you can't fuck that up. The springs are Eibach standard diameter race springs. If the buyer chooses shitty rates is that GCs fault? What spring rates did you run and on what shock? The big difference between different CO kits and the threaded shock kits is the spring rates, relative to each other, the weight of the car, the lever ratio, shock bound/rebound damping, etc. Whoever is purchasing the coil overs should be doing the research and asking for the appropriate spring rates. I chose 450 front and 325 rear, with Illuminas, and it rides and handles great. Also pulls as low as 1.55 seconds 60 foot times on 17" low profile all seasons. Someone else may run the same rates on different shocks, or the different spring rates on the same shocks, etc, and get shitty results. See my point? you can't blame GC or any CO sleeve company for ride or handling, its simply not up to them. A threaded sleeve is a threaded sleeve, no matter how you slice it. :)
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