Maxima + Supercharger = Ownage
One_Ball_Hung_Low
02-18-2005, 08:03 PM
Well, guys, my Max finally has it's charger inside after a few weeks delay. Earlier was was just driving around and pulled hard on a Eclipse, Legend, and a IS300. I love this supercharger.
Expect many stories as they come because I have a true sleeper now!
Expect many stories as they come because I have a true sleeper now!
crunchymilk55
02-18-2005, 08:05 PM
pics??
I haven't seen many nissan's go the supercharger route
I haven't seen many nissan's go the supercharger route
Ace$nyper
02-18-2005, 08:37 PM
cool now pics!!!!
drftk1d
02-18-2005, 09:10 PM
what year maxima?
Igovert500
02-18-2005, 09:31 PM
:useless:
BP2K2Max
02-18-2005, 09:53 PM
one ball, you da man, son. you know you can't just leave it at that though. we need specs, pics, etc.. a s/c 4th gen must be awesome.
One_Ball_Hung_Low
02-18-2005, 09:54 PM
96 SE.
I have/had a digital cam but something is wrong where it takes pics but i cant upload them at all. i probally get a extra cheap onethis weekend.
I have/had a digital cam but something is wrong where it takes pics but i cant upload them at all. i probally get a extra cheap onethis weekend.
One_Ball_Hung_Low
02-18-2005, 09:56 PM
i wanna get dynoed badly, but on the ass dyno it's a 100% increase in kick ass.
RedLightning
02-18-2005, 10:04 PM
what brand supercharger is it?
-Jayson-
02-18-2005, 11:09 PM
what brand? how much PSI? estimated HP?
tha_new_guy
02-19-2005, 12:28 AM
Give us specs dammit! This sounds interesting...
street_racer_00
02-19-2005, 02:39 AM
I'm guessing it's the Vortech V2
One_Ball_Hung_Low
02-19-2005, 09:01 PM
It's a Stillen designed for 95-98model year maximas. The general estimation is a boost from 190 to 275 at the flywheel, so im guessing around 250-260 at the wheels.
Man, its normal to about 4000 rpm, but as soon as i pass that it kicks in and starts to haul ass.
I'm gonna head to Moroso(1/2 hour drive from my house) sometime next week and see what i can do.
Man, its normal to about 4000 rpm, but as soon as i pass that it kicks in and starts to haul ass.
I'm gonna head to Moroso(1/2 hour drive from my house) sometime next week and see what i can do.
crunchymilk55
02-19-2005, 09:24 PM
It's a Stillen designed for 95-98model year maximas. The general estimation is a boost from 190 to 275 at the flywheel, so im guessing around 250-260 at the wheels.
Man, its normal to about 4000 rpm, but as soon as i pass that it kicks in and starts to haul ass.
I'm gonna head to Moroso(1/2 hour drive from my house) sometime next week and see what i can do.
Isn't a supercharger's power linear???
Man, its normal to about 4000 rpm, but as soon as i pass that it kicks in and starts to haul ass.
I'm gonna head to Moroso(1/2 hour drive from my house) sometime next week and see what i can do.
Isn't a supercharger's power linear???
RedLightning
02-19-2005, 10:43 PM
Isn't a supercharger's power linear???
most are, but some designs(which I can't remember right now) arn't.
most are, but some designs(which I can't remember right now) arn't.
-Jayson-
02-20-2005, 12:47 AM
uhh superchargers dont turn on and off by RPM that would be stupid and a waste of energy and money. New superchargers have a Throttle Positioning Sensor, where if you give it a certain amount of gas it engages the supercharger, this saves money when normally driving. U never said how much psi.
nissanfanatic
02-20-2005, 02:32 AM
uhh superchargers dont turn on and off by RPM that would be stupid and a waste of energy and money. New superchargers have a Throttle Positioning Sensor, where if you give it a certain amount of gas it engages the supercharger, this saves money when normally driving. U never said how much psi.
So you're saying the supercharger clutch uses load based activation? :) And chances are, the supercharger taps into the factory TPS. That is unless the car didn't come equipped with one. In which case, the supercharger probably didn't come equipped with an electronic clutch either.
So you're saying the supercharger clutch uses load based activation? :) And chances are, the supercharger taps into the factory TPS. That is unless the car didn't come equipped with one. In which case, the supercharger probably didn't come equipped with an electronic clutch either.
TatII
02-20-2005, 02:57 AM
they're not clutch based like a a/c compressor, they have a pressure relief valve that won't build boost if it sees high vac i believe. thats why when you rev it at idle, it won't build any boost. the twin screw type is now also load dependant like a centrifugal one.
-The Stig-
02-20-2005, 06:17 AM
uhh superchargers dont turn on and off by RPM that would be stupid and a waste of energy and money. New superchargers have a Throttle Positioning Sensor, where if you give it a certain amount of gas it engages the supercharger, this saves money when normally driving. U never said how much psi.
Sounds a bit like somebody's been watching a bit too much Road Warrior...
"It runs off nitroo!!" :evillol:
Sounds a bit like somebody's been watching a bit too much Road Warrior...
"It runs off nitroo!!" :evillol:
Sl0wRegal
02-20-2005, 08:11 AM
No there is such thing as clutch driven superchargers, all the supercharged AMG Mercedes cars have Eatons like that. Nice and quiet till about 3,000rpms and you better hang the hell on! Every "Kompressor" car except the 4 cylinder ones have clucthes in the s/c pulley. How do i know this? I work at a dealership that sells every AMG model known to man and i get to drive them. Just drove an S600 twin turbo V12 the other day. Not supercharged but INSANE!
Actually wish my Regal have a s/c like that! They mostly do that for mpg and such cuz if you take of regular at a light and cruise along up to 40mph the s/c won't even engage until it feels it needs boost.
I highly doubt there are any aftermarket ppl out there that sell superchargers like that though.
Actually wish my Regal have a s/c like that! They mostly do that for mpg and such cuz if you take of regular at a light and cruise along up to 40mph the s/c won't even engage until it feels it needs boost.
I highly doubt there are any aftermarket ppl out there that sell superchargers like that though.
-Jayson-
02-20-2005, 11:04 AM
ugh im sorry, i feel like an idiot, some guy told me that and now upon researching its not true at all. Heres what eaton says.
The Eaton supercharger system incorporates a specially designed bypass valve, which is actuated by a vacuum motor near the throttle body, and recirculates the supercharger air flow when boost is not required. During typical driving conditions, the engine is under boost around 5% of the time, which means the remaining 95% of the time the engine is under vacuum, allowing for better fuel economy and a quieter ride. In addition, the helix angled rotors, along with specially designed inlet and outlet port geometry, also reduce pressure variations resulting in a smooth discharge flow and a lower level of noise during operation. The associated ducting and mounting used in installing the supercharger can play a major role in reducing the noise emitted by the supercharger.
Once again, sorry. . .
The Eaton supercharger system incorporates a specially designed bypass valve, which is actuated by a vacuum motor near the throttle body, and recirculates the supercharger air flow when boost is not required. During typical driving conditions, the engine is under boost around 5% of the time, which means the remaining 95% of the time the engine is under vacuum, allowing for better fuel economy and a quieter ride. In addition, the helix angled rotors, along with specially designed inlet and outlet port geometry, also reduce pressure variations resulting in a smooth discharge flow and a lower level of noise during operation. The associated ducting and mounting used in installing the supercharger can play a major role in reducing the noise emitted by the supercharger.
Once again, sorry. . .
TatII
02-20-2005, 11:26 AM
ugh im sorry, i feel like an idiot, some guy told me that and now upon researching its not true at all. Heres what eaton says.
The Eaton supercharger system incorporates a specially designed bypass valve, which is actuated by a vacuum motor near the throttle body, and recirculates the supercharger air flow when boost is not required. During typical driving conditions, the engine is under boost around 5% of the time, which means the remaining 95% of the time the engine is under vacuum, allowing for better fuel economy and a quieter ride. In addition, the helix angled rotors, along with specially designed inlet and outlet port geometry, also reduce pressure variations resulting in a smooth discharge flow and a lower level of noise during operation. The associated ducting and mounting used in installing the supercharger can play a major role in reducing the noise emitted by the supercharger.
Once again, sorry. . .
heh like what i said earlier. anyways there is a type of after market blower that uses a clutch. if you look at blitz, they make a a/c clutch type pulley and put it on they're blowers.
The Eaton supercharger system incorporates a specially designed bypass valve, which is actuated by a vacuum motor near the throttle body, and recirculates the supercharger air flow when boost is not required. During typical driving conditions, the engine is under boost around 5% of the time, which means the remaining 95% of the time the engine is under vacuum, allowing for better fuel economy and a quieter ride. In addition, the helix angled rotors, along with specially designed inlet and outlet port geometry, also reduce pressure variations resulting in a smooth discharge flow and a lower level of noise during operation. The associated ducting and mounting used in installing the supercharger can play a major role in reducing the noise emitted by the supercharger.
Once again, sorry. . .
heh like what i said earlier. anyways there is a type of after market blower that uses a clutch. if you look at blitz, they make a a/c clutch type pulley and put it on they're blowers.
Sl0wRegal
02-20-2005, 03:54 PM
Man i would kill for a clutch drive on my eaton. I need to see if there are any spares laying around the dealership and see if there is some way to fab it up and still make around 13lbs of boost with the smaller pulley.
Guywithacar
02-20-2005, 05:51 PM
the stillen V2 kit uses a vortech v2 which is a centrifugal style supercharger (no clutch) and doesn’t build boost linearly like a roots or whipple style, it builds boost similar to a turbo (since its just the compressor of a turbo strapped to the crank)
Drifty
02-21-2005, 12:54 AM
[QUOTE=RedNeck383]Sounds a bit like somebody's been watching a bit too much Road Warrior...
Give me the Pump! The Gasoline!........
You can Run but you CANT HIDE........
I'll drive that tanker....
flash backs whoa
Give me the Pump! The Gasoline!........
You can Run but you CANT HIDE........
I'll drive that tanker....
flash backs whoa
beyondloadedSE
02-21-2005, 12:59 AM
It's a Stillen designed for 95-98model year maximas. The general estimation is a boost from 190 to 275 at the flywheel, so im guessing around 250-260 at the wheels.
Man, its normal to about 4000 rpm, but as soon as i pass that it kicks in and starts to haul ass.
I'm gonna head to Moroso(1/2 hour drive from my house) sometime next week and see what i can do.
id say with 260 whp, your close to the 300 crank hp number. Not that crank hp numbers mean anything if you cant put it to the ground, but the average joe doesnt know the difference between wheel and flywheel ratings anyways. :lol:
Man, its normal to about 4000 rpm, but as soon as i pass that it kicks in and starts to haul ass.
I'm gonna head to Moroso(1/2 hour drive from my house) sometime next week and see what i can do.
id say with 260 whp, your close to the 300 crank hp number. Not that crank hp numbers mean anything if you cant put it to the ground, but the average joe doesnt know the difference between wheel and flywheel ratings anyways. :lol:
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