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kingpinn
02-17-2005, 08:31 PM
please take the poll and dont start fighting over what you think is better this is not a motor war i just want to see what every body thinks .



....thanks...

AudioGuy93DelSol
02-17-2005, 08:34 PM
so im not seein a poll here :uhoh:

devaney
02-17-2005, 08:36 PM
yeah i dont see it either :confused:

kingpinn
02-17-2005, 08:40 PM
do know what i did wrong sorry

kingpinn
02-17-2005, 08:41 PM
look up there its there

Hilikus Funkin
02-18-2005, 12:19 AM
500 in mods wont get you far..., i say b20 for the most torque. 6 psi wont get you far either. I have a friend boosting 12 psi on a stock LS.

viper_2_4
02-18-2005, 09:44 AM
why no ZC?

kingpinn
02-18-2005, 11:12 AM
im not a fan of the zc because performance parts are a little scares for my liking but i did think about it

icE_x
02-18-2005, 11:13 AM
on a properly build D block you should be able to boost 10+ psi - my plans are to boost 8 psi at the most since it is my daily driver

kingpinn
02-18-2005, 11:21 AM
icE_x smart man i never herd that you could boost that much on a d.. This crx will be a daily driver to . well thanks for the info.....

honda_luvr_2000
02-18-2005, 12:16 PM
it all depends on wut u'r goals r and wut kind of performance driving u plan on doing w/ the car.
if it's road coarse, then u'd want to stick w/ a D-series to save weight and not get understeer, prolly go w/ the Z6 or Y8, maybe the turbo A6, cuz u'r also gonna need more money in suspension and roll cage.
drag racing, a properly built B20 w/ a B16 head and LSD tranny would get u FAR FAST. i see that wasn't an option, but it's a mix of two.
autocross, again the lighter D-series, like the Z6 or Y8 and only 500 in mods, because again u'r gonna need the money in other areas and to save weight.

as a side note, the reason i said stick w/ the d-series in road corse, even though there are open straights. my buddy races a CRX in the H2 class of NASA, and he has always used a A6. He just got his new engine last month, and it's another A6, but this puppy has more than $10k invested in it from his sponsor. So a A6 motor w/ turbo sounds like fair game. By the way, his new engine is all-motor, and he told me has 310hp at the crank (but i'm a little skeptical). Once it gets warm again around here (OH) he's back out on the tracks, and I'll be there.

turtlecrxsi
02-18-2005, 12:37 PM
By the way, his new engine is all-motor, and he told me has 310hp at the crank (but i'm a little skeptical). Once it gets warm again around here (OH) he's back out on the tracks, and I'll be there.

310 to the crank... I smell bs. But an A6 can handle a lot of compression and will scoot along quick.

From personal experience, I can tell you that if you drive on curvy roads with varying altitudes, the d16a6 (with lightweight components) matched to the si tranny can be very fun to drive...

kingpinn
02-18-2005, 01:12 PM
im sorry i should have said that it will be made for the drag strip . but i will still drive it to work every day ....

thanks

civickiller
02-18-2005, 05:01 PM
b16 will be the fastest out of all of those choices, followed by b20 and b18 which arent far behind. and after you can boost the b16

SiZ
02-18-2005, 05:30 PM
YAY! B16 gets my vote again. It will be quick in basically stock form (not comprimising reliability), and can handle daily driving just fine because its meant to be revved like a fahker.

B20 with a B16 tranny would be a bit faster I would think, but with my B16 tranny it revs at 5,000rpm @ 80mph. I drive about 30 minutes at 80mph constant both to, and from work so I want something thats okay with keeping constant revs like that.

I'm not saying the B20 might not handle it, but I don't know as though I'd want to be driving that close to redline for extended periods of time.

kingpinn
02-18-2005, 06:11 PM
siz do you get good gas mileage and what do you think a stock b16 in a crx si will run in the 1/4

civickiller
02-18-2005, 06:25 PM
15 flat

bambam89lx
02-18-2005, 06:27 PM
b20 w/ a b16 tranny (Y1)

yep...it is a little faster than the b16. a b20/b16 tranny combo could net you anywhere from 14.1 to 14.9....it all depends on which b16 tranny and which b20 you have (b20b or z) and all the other factors (driver, tires, altitude, mods, weight, etc.). But, i'd shoot myself in the head if you couldn't get a 14 sec. 1/4 with a b20 w/ b16 tranny.

SiZ
02-18-2005, 06:40 PM
siz do you get good gas mileage and what do you think a stock b16 in a crx si will run in the 1/4

Decent milage.. It depends how much I stay out of VTEC and how fast I cruize at.. Above 80mph for about 1-1.5 hours a day I get around 420km out of a tank. (I dunno how many miles that is)

B16 CRXSi, anywhere from 15.0 to 14.5. If you have an LSD a 14.5 wouldn't be unattainable.

bambam89lx
02-19-2005, 12:25 PM
If you have an LSD a 14.5 wouldn't be unattainable.

Isn't that not a double-negative? LOL
(should read: If you have an LSD a 14.5 would be attainable.)

amy@af
02-19-2005, 01:58 PM
15 flat

bah...i know a fully lightened, usual bolt-ons I/H/E, on stock clutch crx. friend bought it that way. it came with a 14.1 time slip

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/reader's%20rides/photos/nick009.jpg

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/reader's%20rides/photos/nick004.jpg

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/reader's%20rides/photos/nick005.jpg

if you want speed and have the money to spare go b series, it has more hp potential. if you just want a hp gain and have less to spend go z6/y8

SiZ
02-19-2005, 03:11 PM
Isn't that not a double-negative? LOL
(should read: If you have an LSD a 14.5 would be attainable.)

I guess so.. I don't really know the reson behind it, sometimes I word things funny just for the sake of it though. Some might agrue that it would be unattainable, so I said it wouldn't be. :p Who cares right, maybe I'll just start typing like this:

yo boi mah homie ran 14.4 in hiz hatch wit bolt ons and i didnt think hed pull it off but he did i wuz there all he had wuz i/h/e and a decent clutch maybee i shud git mah clutch change becauze i cant evn scratch 2nd gear ne more so maybe dats why i cant get bettr than 14.9s rite now

kingpinn
02-20-2005, 12:51 AM
LadyNRedSi that is a wild crx what do you run in that sexy car

amy@af
02-20-2005, 01:03 PM
LadyNRedSi that is a wild crx what do you run in that sexy car

look up....

friend bought it that way. it came with a 14.1 time slip


those were pics as he got it. shortly after he airbrushed up the car for his senior project at school. i think it turned out pretty decent considering it was his first attempt at airbrush ever

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/reader's%20rides/photos/nick_y__004.jpg

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/reader's%20rides/photos/nick_y_008.jpg

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/reader's%20rides/photos/nick_y_007.jpg

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/reader's%20rides/photos/nick_y_005.jpg

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/reader's%20rides/photos/nick_y__003.jpg

this is the only pic that matters :evillol:

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/reader's%20rides/photos/nick_y__001.jpg

91civichatch2571
02-20-2005, 01:39 PM
at first when he airbrushed that, i didnt like it because i preferred the red that was previously on it. The more i looked at it though, the more i appreciated the work he put into it. Any idea where that car is these days ami?

amy@af
02-20-2005, 01:59 PM
of course i do...he's my friend! unfortunatly every car meet we've had he hasn't been able to get out of work. he drops by but doesn't get to stay long.

CivicSpoon
02-20-2005, 02:13 PM
:eek2: That is a sick ass paint job. That's awesome how the rivets look like they've rusted. Crazy.

amy@af
02-20-2005, 02:22 PM
that crx owner is brothers with our other friend, the owner of this civic we did a swap into:

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/events/may%202004/civic_event_38.jpg

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/members%20rides/members%20pics/dano_026.jpg

http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/Photos/members%20rides/members%20pics/dano_030.jpg

he painted the engine bay while we had the engine out.

amy@af
02-20-2005, 02:26 PM
oh yea..i'd like to point out:

the crx is b16

the hatch is y8 adding turbo (it's in the mail)

it'll be intresting to see those 2 cars line up after the turbo, that y8 is built up and already pretty mean. that is another example of 2 people going with 2 different set-ups.

civickiller
02-20-2005, 04:54 PM
the y8 will eat the b16

icE_x
02-21-2005, 08:26 PM
i second that

kingpinn
02-21-2005, 10:12 PM
what do you think the y8 is going to run or could run all things permiting

96probegt
02-22-2005, 05:44 PM
why not a b18c1 or a type r

civickiller
02-22-2005, 06:07 PM
because they cost an arm and a leg

kingpinn
02-22-2005, 06:40 PM
civickiller that is the truth

96probegt
02-23-2005, 06:53 PM
my buddy just got the complete gsr swap for a grand and i know where to get a b-16 type r every thing but the axels and hubs for 800

kingpinn
02-24-2005, 02:40 PM
where and you need to pm me with this stuff if your for real.... but dont bull shit me

96probegt
02-26-2005, 02:13 PM
i can see what i can dig up the type r just sold going in to a 90 hatch and the b18 i just put in this week if i hear of any thing ill pm you if ur willing to come and get it or ship it from washington

kingpinn
02-26-2005, 05:54 PM
yes yes i am pm me please

bambam89lx
03-07-2005, 12:12 PM
YAY! B16 gets my vote again. It will be quick in basically stock form (not comprimising reliability), and can handle daily driving just fine because its meant to be revved like a fahker.

B20 with a B16 tranny would be a bit faster I would think, but with my B16 tranny it revs at 5,000rpm @ 80mph. I drive about 30 minutes at 80mph constant both to, and from work so I want something thats okay with keeping constant revs like that.

I'm not saying the B20 might not handle it, but I don't know as though I'd want to be driving that close to redline for extended periods of time.

I used to worry about the same thing. But it's been almost 9 months of driving on the B20 with more than hundreds of races under it's belt both draggin' and on the h'way. I haven't come up with problems yet. It does suck tho to be pinnin' 5th gear at 125-130 at 6500 rpms with the y1 tranny and b20b. That's the only downfall of that combination. It does however get up to 120 really quick tho. Same story as the B18a/b...the rods don't like to be revved past 7k rpm for any extended period of time.
But I'm assuming with the lower 8.8 compression ratio of the B20b, it can handle it a little better. I've kept my car at 130mph (and maybe more because tach stops at 125 @ 6k in fifth gear) for over a minute before.

kingpinn
03-07-2005, 01:41 PM
bambam89lx long time since i talk to you .... any way what kinda gas milage do you get with your setup..

Kunundrum
03-09-2005, 01:50 PM
Siz, I fixed that on my car, I have a S1 Hybrid Transmission, JDM S1 gears 1 thru 4 and a USDM S1 (LS) 5th, now I can do 120km/h at 3300rpm... I also took the time and thru in a OBX LSD... works Great, best upgrade/modification I ever did to the car.

Kun

SiZ
04-02-2005, 01:14 PM
Siz, I fixed that on my car, I have a S1 Hybrid Transmission, JDM S1 gears 1 thru 4 and a USDM S1 (LS) 5th, now I can do 120km/h at 3300rpm... I also took the time and thru in a OBX LSD... works Great, best upgrade/modification I ever did to the car.

Kun

Really? Wow, I'd really love to do that when it comes time to get another tranny in my car. Was it hard work? Mmm.. LS 5th gear.
OH! And the LSD would be dope shit too. What on did you use? Is it for 90-93 teg?

Thats fun news man, that would be a super nice tranny setup.

Darb 2k
04-02-2005, 03:03 PM
Siz, I fixed that on my car, I have a S1 Hybrid Transmission, JDM S1 gears 1 thru 4 and a USDM S1 (LS) 5th, now I can do 120km/h at 3300rpm... I also took the time and thru in a OBX LSD... works Great, best upgrade/modification I ever did to the car.

Kun

very nice

civic_boy91
04-06-2005, 08:49 AM
icE_x smart man i never herd that you could boost that much on a d.. This crx will be a daily driver to . well thanks for the info.....
this dude i got my wiper switch off of has a 93 hatch with a d16z6 pushing 10 psi every day. from what i know its still going, its been about a yeah and a half.
my vote go's to the d16z6

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