Justive served :)

My girlfriend and I had to go to court as witnesses last night from an incident on Dec 30. We were out returning Christmas gifts when we left a local Mall.

I was driving her '04 Corolla and we were exiting the mall behind a Jeep Cherokee.
He made a right. I made the right and signalled immediately to get into a left turning lane at a light. He pulled over in front of me without signalling.

The light was green with no cars coming and he came to a definitive stop at the white line. There was no reason to be stopping. He sat there. I tooted.

He moved forward and slammed his brakes again?! ... he proceeded to do this 4-6 more times until he was in the middle of the intersection, still no turn signal, still no idea what he was doing.

So I just made my left. :)
At this point we had traveled less than 60' from the Mall.

He then makes the left and follows me to the next light.
I make a left, he makes a left. I make a right into the next shopping center. He follows. I loop around the lot to the Staples (our next destination).

I park in a spot and he almost rear-ends me. I suspect he thought I was going to drive through the space since he it was clear he was following me.
He quick backs up and pulls right up next to my girlfriend's door (she could not open her door).

He indicates for us to roll the window down. She opens it a bit.
Exhange:
Him, "I'm gonna ____ you up."
Me, "What's you problem?"
H, "Why were you tail gating me?
M, I wasn't
H, You were. What's your problem?
M, Even if I was tailgating you, it was for 50 feet ... why follow me here for?
H, What are you doing here?
We were coming to Staples. (duh?!)
So what's your problem?

**I stop talking and just maintain eye contact for what seems to be quite a while

h, I have all night to mess with you.
Why would you want to?
This will make a great story to tell my friends.

At this point I asked for Cindy's cell and dialed 911 ... his friend suggest he leaves and after some discussion they start to pull out. 911 connects me to the local police and I give them the plate.

They cited him and he requested a court date which was last night.

I can not begin to explain what a lame defense he offered. He showed in court with a Iron Maiden t-shirt on and a TransAm black jacket.
I would have given anything for a transcript of the dialogue between the Judge and this guy. Priceless. He ended up looking like such a fool. He indicated to the judge that he felt I tailgated him for 10 - 20 feet ... the judge was like "and you think this was worth following him over?"
That is only one moment, the whole case was entertaining.

The judge found him guilty of disorderly conduct. Fine $175.

... sorry so long, just had to share.

:iceslolan Very nice I could feel the satisfaction that you got as I read the story. It's refreshing to hear someone getting what they deserve.

and what does this do with street racing?

... when I was tailgating him from the stop sign to the red light we were doing 135 mph.

... seriously, it's a story from the street and I thought you would all find it entertaining/educational/interesting.

That's all :)

Man, what I would do for a transcript of that case. :) Was he like a redneck or something?

Justice never works in my favor. Good to see it atleast did you some good. L8...

Justice served indeed. Nice one.

:bigthumb:

He was 19, long-haired, heavy-metal band type of guy ... I would not say a redneck.

His father drove him to court.

At one point, during his testimony, the father asked if he could speak ... the judge looked right at him, said "No." and looked back at the kid and said, continue.

:D ... that was funny. Put daddy in his place.

Hahah. And it doesn't matter if it's street racing or not. This is Jeff! Man I can't believe what an asshole that guy was. I'm glad things worked out for you!

lol...what a [email protected] that theres way too many idiots in this world...

Haha...I had a guy throw a 2x4 at me once! I reported the plate number to the cops are they said it was old and can't do anything! I sorta cut him off, I didn't know I did, traffic merged..I got in front of him...Haha...Ops I jacked anohter thread, continue this one!

His father drove him to court.

:lol: So it was daddy's car he was tailing you with? Jesus, he should have told daddy to get a better vehicle to intimidate people with. Lame ass moron.

and what does this do with street racing?


That's for me to ask. Don't you worry your little head about it.








Jeff is a awesome dude.

Continue posting Mr. Jeff.. we all enjoy your random street related stories.

Jeff is a awesome dude.

Can I "worry my little head" on your grammar? J/K :lol:

Can I "worry my little head" on your grammar? J/K :lol:



Hmm, out of all the people who post on these forums who have no grasp of proper grammar and/or correct spelling.

You set your sights on a simple typo. :rolleyes:


Good Jorb.

gj man. For some reason u always think wise and smarter then the other person. just like that time they hit jeykl and u video taped him something like that. hows that for grammer?

Great jorb!!!!!!!!!!!!! :icon16:

Thanks redneck :) ... although I gave up street racing 2+ years ago and for GOOD 1-1/2 years ago, I still feel a part of the community and I know my roots are here. I am honestly 100% satisfied to not be street racing any more.

I've been toying around with the idea of sharing/posting why I do not do it any more ... but:
1. It would be a long post and I would not offer cliff notes.
2. It would have to be told as a fictional story.
3. I'm not sure if the amount of emotion I have about what occured, and how it changed me, could possibly come over the Internet via simply typed letters.

Ghost96Gt, I think the "wiser and smarter" has just come from experience. I suspect I have been to court, talked to police and wrecked more cars than anybody on here. Living through what I have been through, you tend to learn a few things :D

I'm slowly... getting to the point where I don't like the idea of getting stupid on the street.

I'm just building the car now for my enjoyment... although, utterly destroying people can be fun.

although, utterly destroying people can be fun.
100% agreed ... but you can do that at the strip or track.
Granted, there is a charm to picking on random, impromtu idiots :)

Solo1 Hill Climbing is the single biggest rush I have ever had while pushing a car to its limits. Nothing (for me anyway) compares to pushing your car 100% and using the entire road (public) legally.

Imagine the roads you drive on everyday ... imagine they closed them down once (or twice) a year and allow you to go for it as fast as you possibly can. The street is "prepped" and closed.

Yeah, I know of a few roads I'd love to go 100% balls out on.

Maybe one of these days I'll get myself into one of these hill climbs.

you know, you get reminded on how stupid people can get... i swear who wears an iron maiden tshirt anyway? much less to a court date...

stupid hick

I have an iron maiden t-shirt. :)

by hick i mean...










oh hell... Hick...



:)

... when I was tailgating him from the stop sign to the red light we were doing 135 mph.

... seriously, it's a story from the street and I thought you would all find it entertaining/educational/interesting.

That's all :)

sorry didnt mean to sound like i was bashing on you, i must have missed the part about 135 MPH, i didnt know toyota corollas could go that fast. But still an entertaining story. You never know what assholes are driving on the road. My brothers friend has a grand national, one day he was just driving around doing whatever, he must have cut this guy off or something cause hes stopped at a light and next thing he knows the guy is at the drivers side door trying to kick in the window. Lucky for him their were a few nice guys around to help him out, but this kid is by no means a fighter *caugh fat nerd caugh*.

well justice is definitly served. what a dick man. anyways i'm starting to feel it too, our cars are getting fast for the streets for us to race on, and we're starting to find less and less spots for us to race. i think me and all my friends are goin to do a once a month thing and go to englishtown and race at the track. ( once my car runs 13-14 psi )

in April the drag strips in michigan open, like 10 cavaliers, including myself are gonna go to Milan Dragway. Should be a fun day, pretty much all the cavs will be supercharged/turbos so itll be alot of fun. If anyone lives in michigan and wants to go, your more than welcome.

How could that guy possibly justify stalking someone?

"Oh well he tailgated me while I was unsafely holding up traffic in the middle of an intersection,"

He deserves an swift kick to the nuts...
Good job.

Jayson, sorry man .. I was kidding about the 135 mph :) ... that was meant as a little joke, to make it sound more like a street racing story :)

Tat, I will be at Englishtown a few times this summer ... say hello and introduce yourself if you are there man!

nissan, you should have seen him try to justify it to the judge. The judge owned him :D

I've been toying around with the idea of sharing/posting why I do not do it any more ... but:


Jekyl, I'd read the entire post, I'd be interested in learning how others think.

lol i was curious about the 135 myself...

cause that woulda been one HELL of a long area to have it happen for so long and if it was only for 25 feet at 135mph... it wouldn't been much at all... lol


glad he got what he deserved

Great jorb indeed. Sorry, but being an English major and all, reading this stuff sometimes makes my eyes bleed. :)

If you want to see the worst grammar ever, look at the "I thought Eclipse GT was faster..." (or something like that) thread. Was he joking or not?

Great jorb indeed. Sorry, but being an English major and all, reading this stuff sometimes makes my eyes bleed. :)

If you want to see the worst grammar ever, look at the "I thought Eclipse GT was faster..." (or something like that) thread. Was he joking or not?

In that case, if you are indeed an English Major, bring a tissue-box, and a transfusion kit whenever you log in here. Grammar, and spelling for that matter, is not a major concern here.

I'd like to meet you, Jeff. Maybe if I get my supercharger this summer I'll head out to one of those events at englishtown. Even though I HATE NJ with a passion.

dampachi, I do have at least one event at Maple Grove, near Reading, PA (2 hours from the White Marsh area north of Baltimore).

Two of the hill climb races are in that area as well, but they are hard to spectate since you only get to see 2 or 3 turns depending on where you are standing. They are FREE to spectate though :)

haha, yeah. what class do you drag race in? I wouldn't be able to compete against you anyway would I? :(

Did you happen to realize that I was making a joke out of the frequent bad grammar? I'm not that serious about it.

This is a public forum, so we're all allowed to be casual. Even I tend to slip sometimes. For the last time, IT WAS A JOKE!

dampachi, I typically race in the import events ... so we would not be able to face each other there.

If you wanted to race, it would have to be an open track day or something.

Do you know what kind of times you are running?
... Hyde is getting a load of winter work done and I am hoping to be sniffing 10s this year.

I'd be running low 12s/high 11s with the supercharger kit I should hopefully have installed this summer.

Wow...11s? I'm lucky to hit 15-16s with the Jetta! I wish I knew what my 88 FC 10AE was capable of,but it's not street legal yet... maybe 13s?

Props to you if you can hit 11-12s with the 'stang!

I'd be running low 12s/high 11s with the supercharger kit I should hopefully have installed this summer.

You planning on doing anything else when you s/c your ride? Low 12s/high 11s just sounds a little ambitious for a s/c'ed only GT Mustang. Now head work, new cams, etc. would make one nice running 'Stang, lol!

Um...it's been done 45394 times. A totally stock 99+ GT mustang+9 psi KB=low 12s/high 11s. Same with an ati procharger. I'd be making around 400rwhp and 430rwtq.

That can't be the only thing done to it... Exhaust? ECU fiddling? You'd need some sticky tires thats for sure...

99 Mustang GT only makes 260hp... Vortech Supercharger claims 464hp, 406tq at 7.5-8.5psi... Not bad for $4607.95...

Great thing about Superchargers is there is an abundance of torque off Idle... terrible thing about Superchargers is the abundance of torque off idle.

Suspension and tires are a must.

I can see you doing low 12s, but you'd need to be master shifter and have a perfect launch. Consistant 11s I think you'd need a bit more than just a S/C... just my opinion though.

The judge found him guilty of disorderly conduct. Fine $175.

... sorry so long, just had to share.

Now that's a kill story! Just proof that cooler heads prevail. Good job.

Um...it's been done 45394 times. A totally stock 99+ GT mustang+9 psi KB=low 12s/high 11s. Same with an ati procharger. I'd be making around 400rwhp and 430rwtq.

See RedNeck's post.

You'll be nearly doubling your factory rear wheel hp/tq, and I just don't see a stock tranny and rear end handling that, for too long of a time.

I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying you better be prepared to spend a little more money on the car then just the s/c'er kit. When you start making serious HP/TQ, things will break (I can't count the built trannies that car in my sig has went through on one hand).

9psi? Better make sure its tuned right. I'm assuming you're going to use some kind of charge cooling right?

For 11s, yes. I'd need sticky tires/exhaust/31 spline axles/differential. But for 12s, no. I've seen totally stock 99+ GTs other than the supercharger run mid 12s on street tires. And yes, definitely a good tune is involved. No intercooler. I plan on running this blown/totally stock setup on the street until I can get the rearend built. The TR-3650 can handle some power..but it's eventually going to give out. I haven't really got anything in mind for the tranny as of right now since it'll last longer than the rear. And the rear will last awhile since as long as I'm running street tires I wont have to worry about hooking up enough to snap them stock axles. If I didn't answer a question/concern that was asked..remind me and I'll clear it up. I'm just answering what I remember.


BTW: The vortech supercharger is centrifrugal..so it doesn't have as much torque off the line as say the twin screw KB. Which is why I am currently leaning toward a vortech/ATI centrifrugal blower. Traction with the KBs is a bitch. Andd suspension isn't really that big of a deal on these cars. Old cut foxbody 4 cylinder springs in the front and rear and shocks/struts if you're going all out and you're good. With around 270rwhp/drag radials/stock suspension, etc. A 99+ GT mustang CAN run in the high 12s. With that extra 130rwhp I can make up for street tires, suspension, etc.

Well, mid-12s is a little different then low 12s/high 11s. You still will have stock internals though, and it sure wouldn't hurt to go forged steel on those parts.

But for what you described as what you want (street only-correct?), you may want to give nitrous a little thought.

Just a suggestion.

Low 12s with just the blower isn't unreasonable..I've seen 12.3s with just a KB 9psi nonintercooled. And ATIs website boasts quote..."ATI is the only company that has put stock 4.6's and 5.0's into the 11's." And no, it will be street/strip. Andd, theres no way in hell I'm adding nitrous to a blown car with stock internals.


Edit: Sorry, I realize now you meant nitrous INSTEAD of a blower.

I would say give an intercooler a though. An intercooler is going to be sooooo much safer at 9psi on stock internals. Intake temps are going to be nearing 179F assuming 70% compressor efficiency and that the ambient temperature is 70F. With a 70% efficiency intercooler, intake temps will be down to 102F. Even with a 1psi pressure drop, you will make 8% more power using the intercooler as opposed to not using it. More power+safer=why not?

Price. It's an additional $1200. I know a guy with a blown 94 running around on stock internals. It's been blown for atleast 60,000 miles..and it has 100,000+ on the clock now.

Oh yeah...sorry for hijacking your thread, Jeff. :)

Yes they can get expensive. I personally wouldn't pay $1200 for one. I would just buy an intercooler and pipes separately with some couplers. I'm sure it can be done for well under $1200.

I also apologize for hijacking.

Low 12s with just the blower isn't unreasonable..I've seen 12.3s with just a KB 9psi nonintercooled. And ATIs website boasts quote..."ATI is the only company that has put stock 4.6's and 5.0's into the 11's." And no, it will be street/strip. Andd, theres no way in hell I'm adding nitrous to a blown car with stock internals.


Edit: Sorry, I realize now you meant nitrous INSTEAD of a blower.
Lol. Yeah, just N02, not N02 and FI.

Well, I thought I read that you just wanted street use only (or in other words, you wanted a little extra get up to beat the local competition-which nitrous would be perfect for), so that's my bad. Either way, good luck with your car.

I still suggest forged internals, but I would suggest beefed up trans/rear end even before that. Its really easy to pop the stock equipment at the track, and when you have to depend on that vehicle to get you back home, then you can't be too cautious.

Good luck though man. As soon as you get it on the track, and make your first real good pass, before long you'll be wanting to strip all the excess weight and spend every free penny you got on making it go faster!

Edit: yeah, sorry Jeff for hijacking.

Good Jorbs all around ^.^ omg that made me laugh hella hard red. maybe the fiero will be done by next season for racing, it would be an honor to have jekylandhyde blow my doors off =D

Wouldn't just be easy enough to ask if I have raced a 99 Supercharged Mustang running 9 psi already?

The answer is yes. :)
I have the timeslip if you would like to see it.

If I recall correctly (this was 2 summers ago when I was slower). I ran a 12.5 to his 12.6 and I had him at the tree. It was a healthy race and a nice fellow.

I ran into him on the street a few months later and he was down to 12.4, but I was at 12.2 by then.

I think 12.4 ~ 12.6 is a reasonable goal for a supercharged Mustang. Taking the car on a diet would help a alot :)

Ok, I think J&H needs to check the avatar of the guy that started this thread:
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22711

ha funny stuff.

Copyright!! ... lawsuit! dammit!

I soooo kicked his butt at that animation.
Did these A LONG TIME ago (can someone e-mail him and show him? ... send him a link to my site :D)

http://www.jekylhyderacing.com/images/JKT.gif

http://www.jekylhyderacing.com/images/ani_JekylTransform2.gif

Is "Great Jorb" gonna become a common phrase on AF now? :lol:

of course! i mean what else would you say? Job? HAHAHAHA