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musicman181
02-16-2005, 01:55 PM
o.k. know that this is a very general question, but you gys are the only friends:iceslolan ihave that are into cars,so. i am on a budget of about $300 a month. and im looking to make my gst the fastest car in my student parking lot. the fastest car is a 99 trans am 410hp. what would you guys get on your car to meet a deadline of may26 (graduation, final race.)try to put it order like a checklist. any suggestion would be helpful.

gthompson97
02-16-2005, 02:44 PM
http://www.dsmtuner.com/tuning-guide/2gturbo/

david-b
02-16-2005, 03:37 PM
$300 a month... and you want 400+ hp by May? Im a N/T, but I dont see that happening anytime soon. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. But dsmtuner.com is a good place to start

viet_boiiiii
02-16-2005, 03:41 PM
So how much u got now and what have u done to your car so far? So from now to may u should have at least 900$ right? id say get evo3 big 16g turbo, upgraded injectors and dsmlink.

joemathews
02-16-2005, 03:47 PM
I think you'll probably need more than an evo16g if you're going to take a 410whp Trans Am. If you were awd, it would be another story :p

kjewer1
02-17-2005, 02:27 AM
Its a hopeless goal. But do what you can anyway. I remember the days when that was all I had to put into the 2g. It takes a long time... Don't expect much by may. Shit, it would take you almost till then just to get a turbo back exhaust...

hellah fresh
02-17-2005, 09:34 AM
man $300 dollars a month and your dead line in may...? I think you need to flip your money 3 ways first. Like Beyonce' said. haha... you got to double your money first man.

Blackcrow64
02-17-2005, 10:02 AM
I'm a college student on a 400 a month budget and I've been making a huge pile of parts in my room since November... Once I put everything on next month, I'd still have trouble against a 400hp Trans Am... Sorry to burst your bubble, but you probably won't get the power you want by Graduation. Unless you find some really awesome deals that is. :iceslolan

I wish ya the best of luck! :bigthumb:

EclipseRST
02-17-2005, 05:41 PM
So how much u got now and what have u done to your car so far? So from now to may u should have at least 900$ right? id say get evo3 big 16g turbo, upgraded injectors and dsmlink.

:lol2: DSMlink and injectors alone will take up that $900... where is he going to get intercooler piping, the turbo, and exhaust from and with what money :p

Owning a DSM isnt cheap... I own a few of them and have a well paying job and I am broke! :iceslolan Just keep saving up and you'll get your power sooner or later, maybe by fall you'll have enough to beat him. You need to out and get another job just to support your DSM speed habbit. :lol:

kjewer1
02-17-2005, 11:33 PM
Exactly. I took my job at Intel specifically for the car. It pays enough to support the habbit, and "shift 4" gives me every street night at the track off :D And its still a bitch.

BoostedSpyder
02-18-2005, 02:21 AM
Exactly. I took my job at Intel specifically for the car.

i always knew it!

most would say wife, kids, stability... not Kevin!

god you guy's aren't too helpfull...

OK, so 300 bucks a month for 5 months...

start with the easy stuff that will make you a bit faster from the get go.

first off, go to www.dsmtrader.com (http://www.dsmtrader.com) ... like a kid in a candy store...

1. boost gauge

2. gauge pod

3. intake and filter

4. fuel pump and MBC

you should be able to fit about $300 for that stuff... mabey...

next work on a used downpipe and a custom exhaust from a local exhaust shop. save the 300 and eat ramen noodles for the month and you should be all over that stuff.

oh throw some NGK bpr7es plugs and a 1g BOV with some used dejon pipes in there.

next save up for 2 months and get a 14b with a 2g install kit.

that should be close to a thousand worth of stuff.

or mabey a bit more. you are not going to get close to 400hp. but you will be on your way...

PearlGT
02-18-2005, 08:15 AM
o.k. know that this is a very general question, but you gys are the only friends:iceslolan ihave that are into cars,so. i am on a budget of about $300 a month. and im looking to make my gst the fastest car in my student parking lot. the fastest car is a 99 trans am 410hp. what would you guys get on your car to meet a deadline of may26 (graduation, final race.)try to put it order like a checklist. any suggestion would be helpful.

get a job on the side, work 3-4 days a week, make smart investments if you can but those are hard to come by and harder to become profitable off of. If you add that to your budget you'll be able to afford more parts but still probably wont make it to beating that 410rwhp trans am... You will however be able to take most others if not fall into the position of 2nd fastest car in the parking lot.

I'm 16 and make anywhere from $175 to $200 per 2 week paycheck working from 3-8 on a couple of weekdays and 8-4 on weekends, its not that bad. Add to that I've been making nice profits from buying and selling items off of ebay and I'm managing some good income for a teenager. Started a month ago and now have around $1,000 saved up for mods for the future gst or gsx.

Enjoy.

kjewer1
02-18-2005, 08:44 AM
Good to see some old fashioned working for the car going on. Too many kids today get shit handed to them. I was working under the table for 4 bucks an hour starting when I was 13. I think its good for the character, and you appreciate what you have more...

But back on topic, working in restaurants is a great way to make some good cash even when you are young. As a cook I made ~8 bucks an hour as a teenager, but as a waiter it was more like 25. Work a could lunch or dinner shifts a week and you get some good cash. Work 11 hour shifts 6 days a week plus half that on sundays, and I was making around 500 week in cash. :D But that sucked, too much work. The point is even in a small mall restaraunt with no alchohol I was still averaging ~100 a day. On the weekend dinner shifts I made 100 in 4 hours. That was how I paid for the trusty old Rx7 and its mods. Shitty work at times, but I thought I would suggest it.

TsiTalon9587
02-18-2005, 09:26 AM
I did it all the old fashioned way as well. To buy my car for 2500, I first had to sell my quad. After that, I worked landscaping, busting my ass. This lasted all last summer, where I worked from 10 to sometimes 14 hour days, @ 15 an hour under the table. You may think this is a lot of money, but I could barely stand after every day of work. I did most of the work that normally you would have a machine do, so my back is hating me right now for it. Honestly it almost wasn;t worth it considering what work I had to do. I managed to make 4500 or so total over the summer, and that pain for my new 6 bolt motor, turbo, dsmlink, clutch, the whole works. I had nothing handed to me by my parents. I did all of the work on my car by myself, less the machine work on the engine obviously.

Thus, I know what earning stuff by yourself feels like, rewarding.

On topic, you may need a few more dollars before you can get fancy with your car, unfortunately.

kjewer1
02-18-2005, 10:27 AM
Just thinking out loud... Intel is offering 12 and 16 week temporary positions for 17-18 an hour. I told my sister about it, since it would be like 7 grand for the summer after taxes, but she is complaining that it interferes with her racing schedule (races a 4 wheeler). Told the wife, and she doesnt want to lose her 7 dollar an hour job. WTF? Never met so many people that tried so hard to NOT make money in my life. When I was ~21 I would have been all over that, especially for the chance that this goes permanent. Oh well...

JoeWagon
02-18-2005, 01:11 PM
Hmm... go home and make $13/hr landscaping 45hrs/week or go live with Kevin and work for Intel?

As said, $900 won't put you anywhere near as fast as a 400hp RWD. But, you can still use the money to modify your car... who said you have to be the fastest? For $500 I had a 3'' exhaust, UICP, 1g BOV, boost gauge, instrument cluster bezel, MBC, POSR intake, and a ricer air filter. Car was as fun as it gets on a T25. On my new car, I'm going to discover if there's any merit to modifying it completely 'wrong' per the typical guides and what I'd recommend to most people and try to force ~30lbs/min through the 2g restrictions, via 16g.

musicman181
02-18-2005, 02:04 PM
thanks guys for the help i

mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-18-2005, 07:41 PM
Do all free mods first (FREE) that would start you off man. Get a drimel and go to town porting little shit you can then start building it up. if you wanna go really cheap i saw a filter kit on ebay for like 12 bucks not sure how good it is.

Blackcrow64
02-18-2005, 09:31 PM
I wish I worked for Intel instead of a damn nursing home... Its hard work and the pay sucks. :banghead:

This is sorta with the topic, but will a 14b really make that much of a difference from the t25 for him? In terms of money to power ratio...

kjewer1
02-19-2005, 08:14 AM
You can max out the T25 so easily, I dont see any reason not to go to a 14b. The difference is night and day. And it should be, with almost a 50% increase in airflow capacity ;) Shit, even on stock exhaust and intake there should be a serious improvement. But I still suggest doing those basic mods first.

Just the fact that it doesnt run out of steam at 5500 rpm is huge, at the same 14-15 psi of course. Since airflow usually peaks aroun 6500 rpm on stock cams, running out of turbo at 5500 is absurd.

Now I'm tempted to toss a 14b on a stock 2g and see what it runs... I'll bet its quite an improvement.

1stGenRocks
02-19-2005, 09:19 AM
it should also be noted that if he does do a 14b and everything he might be able to beat the guy. it all comes down to how good of drivers they both are, if the camaro guy has gotten lazy from not having anything fast to race then you might win. not likely since you're fwd and only have 900 but anythings possible

BoostedSpyder
02-20-2005, 04:57 PM
all this talk of jobs as a yougster has got me on memory lane...

when i was 14 i had 3 jobs. i worked at the swap meet directing parking in the wee hours of the morning and cleaning up all kinds of shit during the day and afternoon, then i went to a bowling alley and was a porter at night. and during the week i worked at k-mart as a clean up kinda guy too. you couldn't keep my ass away from trying to make $$$ when i was younger. and i've learned that if you take a blue collar work ethic to any job in the world you will be more successfull than the guy next to you...

kjewer1
02-21-2005, 12:09 AM
and i've learned that if you take a blue collar work ethic to any job in the world you will be more successfull than the guy next to you...


So I'm not the only one that sees this...

Right on!

Too many people working that arent there to work. I don't know why some poeple have jobs, but they sure as hell don't show up to do work. Mommy said they have to get a job or something I guess. :D

BoostedSpyder
02-21-2005, 03:02 AM
it's a funny thing... at the place i manage we have a very high turnover rate. like 90% of the people that walk thru the doors don't make it. i explain it to them like this:

all i know is how to work my ass off. and that is what i can teach you. if you don't know how to, or don't want to, you are not going to make it in this biz. but don't lose sight of the big picture, you will make more money than you ever have in your entire life if you are willing to go that far.

and it is amazing to me that so many people just don't make it. i am willing to go pretty far to make good money and i could never imagine just settling for something less, yet here are all these people out there that will not push themselves to success...

i think i just got all mushy there for a minute... LOL

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