Number of 240s
logik23
02-15-2005, 05:32 PM
Guess how many Zenki S14s were sold in Quebec????
drumpet15
02-15-2005, 05:53 PM
14...?
SHIFT_KA24DE
02-15-2005, 05:59 PM
is this a trick question?
logik23
02-15-2005, 06:34 PM
Actually, it's just sad...
1995 LE: 128
1995 SE: 112
1996 : 19
TOTAL NUMBERS!!! lolol
1995 LE: 128
1995 SE: 112
1996 : 19
TOTAL NUMBERS!!! lolol
SHIFT_KA24DE
02-15-2005, 06:41 PM
wow... i wouldn't doubt that 240 enthusiasts down there pay a lot for their s14's.
turbo2nr
02-15-2005, 06:42 PM
screw zenki kouki is the way to go.. but that probably even less.. damm poor canadians..
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logik23
02-15-2005, 06:55 PM
There wasn't many in the states either, oh wait you guys are 10 times more people! And yeah, there's an auto Zenki up here for 12 grand. It's mint tho...
D-Bo
02-15-2005, 07:44 PM
those numbers are partly the reason why i had to pay $5250 for my 240..
sidewayzS13
02-16-2005, 11:23 AM
where do u find this info?
logik23
02-16-2005, 11:51 AM
Nissan Canada
my240project
02-16-2005, 02:19 PM
i paid $2k for my 95' SE
monooxide
02-16-2005, 04:22 PM
Either you bough it from a blind lady or it this in the ODO spot "999999" because theres no way to get a 2000 running S14? its hard to find a really good 240 for 2000?
RB26_Enthusiast
02-16-2005, 04:47 PM
i just bought a 240sx for a project car its a 98 kouki with 48k miles on it guess how much.......5500. Im gonna go drag with it so i can drift my 89 but i cant get an estimate on the cost for labor for an rb26dett swap, i would do it myself but i need a little help and none of my friends kno what their doing damnit, does anybody have like a guide or manual.
and does anybody kno where i can get some gram lights 57pro 18x8 or 9 in the front and 18x10 in the rear with a 32 offset adn 114 5 lug pattern, also tanabe sustec type s coil overs and either brembo or rotora big brake kit for cheap, any help is appreciated. all of the above i need for cheap crack house prices.
btw for every1 who wants to drift their car, its not easy, i hit a fence when i first started doing it, my friend thinks its eay and hasnt done it before so for all you who think its easy, try it in a controlled environment, my 89 will now be winking forever, or until i feel like fixing it.
and does anybody kno where i can get some gram lights 57pro 18x8 or 9 in the front and 18x10 in the rear with a 32 offset adn 114 5 lug pattern, also tanabe sustec type s coil overs and either brembo or rotora big brake kit for cheap, any help is appreciated. all of the above i need for cheap crack house prices.
btw for every1 who wants to drift their car, its not easy, i hit a fence when i first started doing it, my friend thinks its eay and hasnt done it before so for all you who think its easy, try it in a controlled environment, my 89 will now be winking forever, or until i feel like fixing it.
logik23
02-16-2005, 04:52 PM
Ok....you obviously don't have that much money so so get the RB26 swap, get a KA-T and you'll kick some ass att he strip, second, the only way of getting those parts cheap is to go to Japan and buy them used. Oh and a third thing, I already told you this the last time you posted the exact same goddamn post.
Tims_240
02-16-2005, 05:30 PM
dude if i had the money, id definately rather have the rb26dett (for strictly drag) you can get them up to an unbelievable amout of hp, with simple mods. but the ka would be cheaper, i mean look at all the guys on ka-t.org, there is a few running 10's and 11's and alot running 12's and 13's, plus you would have better weight distribution to boot.
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D-Bo
02-16-2005, 10:00 PM
labour for an rb swap is anywhere from $2500-$3000
logik23
02-16-2005, 10:15 PM
There's a place in mtl selling the RB26 with tranny and uncut harness and all the shit for like 3500$ CDN except i don't think the turbos come with it....
D-Bo
02-16-2005, 10:29 PM
well add on anything comparable to the stock turbos for the 26tt and you'll be running closer to $5500.. add on labour and you're near $8000
logik23
02-16-2005, 10:38 PM
Yeah, but you'll have turbos that can crank out 500whp without breaking a sweat.
RB26_Enthusiast
02-17-2005, 10:13 AM
a few things (IMO):
first of all, the ka-t is not as efficient above 500ps, and at this range you need to upgrade the bottom end, whereas the rb can go to around 700 on stock internals, people on the ka-t forums pages are running 12 and shit even with like 450ps to me thats pretty shitty since they cant get that much higher than that unless you want to sacrifice reliability. With a boost controller, trhe RB26 can get to the 400ps range alone, i rather make an investment into that than being stuck at around 500.
i have 12k to spend on my car, so im trying to get everything i can whihc is why im not asking only you logik. I kno i posted that message already i dont need you telling me what i did i think i would be aware if i did something. Other people may know of places and no, japan is not the only place to get these parts. I got a couple estimates on RB26 installs from a local performance shop and they told me it would cost around 12k installed into my car, which is why i was asking about labor, because if they were paying too much for the engine i would have it shipped to their shop.
first of all, the ka-t is not as efficient above 500ps, and at this range you need to upgrade the bottom end, whereas the rb can go to around 700 on stock internals, people on the ka-t forums pages are running 12 and shit even with like 450ps to me thats pretty shitty since they cant get that much higher than that unless you want to sacrifice reliability. With a boost controller, trhe RB26 can get to the 400ps range alone, i rather make an investment into that than being stuck at around 500.
i have 12k to spend on my car, so im trying to get everything i can whihc is why im not asking only you logik. I kno i posted that message already i dont need you telling me what i did i think i would be aware if i did something. Other people may know of places and no, japan is not the only place to get these parts. I got a couple estimates on RB26 installs from a local performance shop and they told me it would cost around 12k installed into my car, which is why i was asking about labor, because if they were paying too much for the engine i would have it shipped to their shop.
logik23
02-17-2005, 04:55 PM
Have you driven a car that has more then 200hp? 500whp is fucking alot, I don't see when and why you would need near that much!
93-240SX-COUPE
02-17-2005, 06:29 PM
a few things (IMO):
first of all, the ka-t is not as efficient above 500ps, and at this range you need to upgrade the bottom end, whereas the rb can go to around 700 on stock internals, people on the ka-t forums pages are running 12 and shit even with like 450ps to me thats pretty shitty since they cant get that much higher than that unless you want to sacrifice reliability. With a boost controller, trhe RB26 can get to the 400ps range alone, i rather make an investment into that than being stuck at around 500.
i have 12k to spend on my car, so im trying to get everything i can whihc is why im not asking only you logik. I kno i posted that message already i dont need you telling me what i did i think i would be aware if i did something. Other people may know of places and no, japan is not the only place to get these parts. I got a couple estimates on RB26 installs from a local performance shop and they told me it would cost around 12k installed into my car, which is why i was asking about labor, because if they were paying too much for the engine i would have it shipped to their shop.
"I rather make an investment into that than being stuck at around 500"
Damn! I didnt know being stuck at 500 was a bad thing. I must be a bigger newb than I thought.
first of all, the ka-t is not as efficient above 500ps, and at this range you need to upgrade the bottom end, whereas the rb can go to around 700 on stock internals, people on the ka-t forums pages are running 12 and shit even with like 450ps to me thats pretty shitty since they cant get that much higher than that unless you want to sacrifice reliability. With a boost controller, trhe RB26 can get to the 400ps range alone, i rather make an investment into that than being stuck at around 500.
i have 12k to spend on my car, so im trying to get everything i can whihc is why im not asking only you logik. I kno i posted that message already i dont need you telling me what i did i think i would be aware if i did something. Other people may know of places and no, japan is not the only place to get these parts. I got a couple estimates on RB26 installs from a local performance shop and they told me it would cost around 12k installed into my car, which is why i was asking about labor, because if they were paying too much for the engine i would have it shipped to their shop.
"I rather make an investment into that than being stuck at around 500"
Damn! I didnt know being stuck at 500 was a bad thing. I must be a bigger newb than I thought.
driftking777
02-17-2005, 07:35 PM
i would buy a rb25det personally, then use the rb26 N1 block...i personaly like single turbos better...on top of that..the rb26 and 25 are basically the same damn motor...ooooo .1 of a liter more...
logik23
02-17-2005, 08:09 PM
I think the head is completly different.
Chuki_breath
02-19-2005, 02:48 PM
this kid is a boon. 12k into your ka will desimate all. a rb will eat up your 12k at stock engine. 12k ka will own you sorry pal.
nissanfanatic
02-19-2005, 03:08 PM
I think I would just stick with the KA. Its potential hasn't even been half-way exposed. Rick on ka-t.org made 533whp with STOCK CAMS. And that was only at 26psi. Wait until Ivan takes the Twins car a little further with cams, Pauter rods, and 30psi. Much less when he starts running past 30psi. If I had the kind of money to spend on an RB swap, I would just get a Z32, FD or possibly a Supra. RB swaps are over.
orestes
02-19-2005, 03:10 PM
yeah if you are really spending tons of money just stick with the KA and get some sort of standalone fuel management shit, like the TEC3r wideband o2, MAP, and whatever. then buy a laptop to sit there and tune your car on a dyno. if you are really concerned about being limited by 500 hp on the KA then you will just need to seriously tune it, i dont doubt it could go higher.
RB26_Enthusiast
02-19-2005, 06:17 PM
like 2 months ago every1 was dissin the ka engine, now all of the sudden its so highly praised why, i thought the sr20 was a shitload better what happened?
also one of the main reasons i was going with the rb setup was because i was told that a 240sx will never be able to beat a decently hooked up supra, so i made a promise that i would trick the shit outta my 240 to make it with at least 600 to the rear wheels for strictly drag use to dstroy supras, the only way to do this in my eyes was to go with the rb26 but i ur telling me that with a highyl modified ka i can destroy 700rwhp supras and shit???
also one of the main reasons i was going with the rb setup was because i was told that a 240sx will never be able to beat a decently hooked up supra, so i made a promise that i would trick the shit outta my 240 to make it with at least 600 to the rear wheels for strictly drag use to dstroy supras, the only way to do this in my eyes was to go with the rb26 but i ur telling me that with a highyl modified ka i can destroy 700rwhp supras and shit???
sRscooby
02-19-2005, 06:30 PM
like 2 months ago every1 was dissin the ka engine, now all of the sudden its so highly praised why, i thought the sr20 was a shitload better what happened?
someone slapped a turbo on it.
someone slapped a turbo on it.
Chuki_breath
02-19-2005, 07:38 PM
like 2 months ago every1 was dissin the ka engine, now all of the sudden its so highly praised why, i thought the sr20 was a shitload better what happened?
also one of the main reasons i was going with the rb setup was because i was told that a 240sx will never be able to beat a decently hooked up supra, so i made a promise that i would trick the shit outta my 240 to make it with at least 600 to the rear wheels for strictly drag use to dstroy supras, the only way to do this in my eyes was to go with the rb26 but i ur telling me that with a highyl modified ka i can destroy 700rwhp supras and shit???
2 months ago??? wtf you talking about. The ka has been on the rise for about a year now. Slowly but surely rising still. Soon i bet people dont waste time or effort for a sr. The first time i saw that the ka could be tuned nicely i totally gave up on the sr. That was about a 2 years ago. I dont know where you get your info from but, uh yea i just dont know. ANd well you never no, i mean a supra is a 6 cylinder engine, if i had a 4 cylinder that could even keep up with a nicely tuned supra i would feel very very proud of my car. But lets face it how many "700 hp" supras do you run into on a daily basis? If you were even going to put an rb in i would say go rb25 with a massive single turbo. An rb25 has very good potential also. Or y not get a fucking big block and super charge it. Drop that into your 240 if all you want to do is beat supras....
also one of the main reasons i was going with the rb setup was because i was told that a 240sx will never be able to beat a decently hooked up supra, so i made a promise that i would trick the shit outta my 240 to make it with at least 600 to the rear wheels for strictly drag use to dstroy supras, the only way to do this in my eyes was to go with the rb26 but i ur telling me that with a highyl modified ka i can destroy 700rwhp supras and shit???
2 months ago??? wtf you talking about. The ka has been on the rise for about a year now. Slowly but surely rising still. Soon i bet people dont waste time or effort for a sr. The first time i saw that the ka could be tuned nicely i totally gave up on the sr. That was about a 2 years ago. I dont know where you get your info from but, uh yea i just dont know. ANd well you never no, i mean a supra is a 6 cylinder engine, if i had a 4 cylinder that could even keep up with a nicely tuned supra i would feel very very proud of my car. But lets face it how many "700 hp" supras do you run into on a daily basis? If you were even going to put an rb in i would say go rb25 with a massive single turbo. An rb25 has very good potential also. Or y not get a fucking big block and super charge it. Drop that into your 240 if all you want to do is beat supras....
orestes
02-19-2005, 08:08 PM
yes the rb will make more power its a 6 cyl.
and yes, i think if you went crazy on your KA you could beat most of the supras you see. wtf is wrong with 11's?????
and yes, i think if you went crazy on your KA you could beat most of the supras you see. wtf is wrong with 11's?????
R.W.240
02-19-2005, 08:17 PM
"Uh this one time this Highly Experienced tuner made 550 on a KA this one time on the dyno"
Please, The guy wants a drag car and the RB series like it or not is much better suited to make power than the KA. Theres been this huge anti JDM backlash lately and people are starting to ignore the facts just to be "anti-conformist".
"Waste time or effort for and SR" yeah... ok... Keep on telling your self the SR is a waste when your KA throws a rod at 6000 RPM. the only logical reasons the KA could be mistaked for better than the SR is cost per dollar and Displacement.
700HP+ 2JZs... theres at least 5-6 in and around Austin. You cant pull upgraded turbo supra with less than a 2.5 liters RX-7s excluded (even though they are better compared to 2.6s I dont want to get in to that). An RB swap in a S14 (Mandatory Intake, Exhaust) will probably take BPU Supras
Please, The guy wants a drag car and the RB series like it or not is much better suited to make power than the KA. Theres been this huge anti JDM backlash lately and people are starting to ignore the facts just to be "anti-conformist".
"Waste time or effort for and SR" yeah... ok... Keep on telling your self the SR is a waste when your KA throws a rod at 6000 RPM. the only logical reasons the KA could be mistaked for better than the SR is cost per dollar and Displacement.
700HP+ 2JZs... theres at least 5-6 in and around Austin. You cant pull upgraded turbo supra with less than a 2.5 liters RX-7s excluded (even though they are better compared to 2.6s I dont want to get in to that). An RB swap in a S14 (Mandatory Intake, Exhaust) will probably take BPU Supras
nissanfanatic
02-20-2005, 12:17 AM
I don't have a clue what you are talking about, but the KA has been on my mind since about a year ago. Then I really devoted about 75% of my life to understanding it about 9 months ago. I don't know what everyone else was thinking two months ago, but then again, I don't really care.
The KA, when supra tuners go four cylinder.
The KA, when supra tuners go four cylinder.
nissanfanatic
02-20-2005, 12:26 AM
Know what? The only engines to throw rods are the ones that are either:
1) Unprepared. Whick really doesn't inlcude the KA if you have ever opened one up.
2) Not tuned properly. Which could include any engine. Build the entire engine out of any metal of your choosing, throw 50lb/min of air through it along with too little fuel and/or advance the timing too far. See what happens.
The difference between the JDM engine guys and us is:
You guys blow an engine, you throw the trusty ol' KA back in for a while. That is unless you have some spare parts and time to install.
We throw the other KA in and learn from our mistakes. All our stuff swaps over, and we head to the graveyard to find another one.
Uh oh, three people have made 500whp on KAs. Two of which, to my knowledge(I don't know about Ivan) were unsponsored what-so-ever. Show me a 550whp streetable SR that was built from somebodys pocket.
And don't forget about our valvetrain. We may throw a rod at 6k, but not before one of your rocker arms comes off.
Jeez, this is the shit that makes me not want to come here. One of these stupid threads comes up at least once a week here anymore. Ergo, we really need engine specific forums. Tat, I see why you left for a while.
1) Unprepared. Whick really doesn't inlcude the KA if you have ever opened one up.
2) Not tuned properly. Which could include any engine. Build the entire engine out of any metal of your choosing, throw 50lb/min of air through it along with too little fuel and/or advance the timing too far. See what happens.
The difference between the JDM engine guys and us is:
You guys blow an engine, you throw the trusty ol' KA back in for a while. That is unless you have some spare parts and time to install.
We throw the other KA in and learn from our mistakes. All our stuff swaps over, and we head to the graveyard to find another one.
Uh oh, three people have made 500whp on KAs. Two of which, to my knowledge(I don't know about Ivan) were unsponsored what-so-ever. Show me a 550whp streetable SR that was built from somebodys pocket.
And don't forget about our valvetrain. We may throw a rod at 6k, but not before one of your rocker arms comes off.
Jeez, this is the shit that makes me not want to come here. One of these stupid threads comes up at least once a week here anymore. Ergo, we really need engine specific forums. Tat, I see why you left for a while.
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