Would u go on Steroids?

I think the subject is enough here? There is lot of guys at my school that are on roids. They keep on offering it to me. I kno it is bad but i just want ur input.

dont do it. you know I herd that if you take them, your dick gets smaller
probly not true, but would you risk it?

I would think about giving it a go. I have seen guys put on 20+ kg of muscle over a month or two. Maybe.

i know all u need to no!!!!its weird that i have somethin to say bout all these topics.anyway, ur nuts do shrink, but not ur thing. they clam up and hug ur body(kinda weird but i didnt really care!)ill be honest, i started doin the shot and taking the pills and i felt on top of the world! i would have 100 percent confidence and i was horny as ever(thats what testosterone does) i would go out to a bar and pick up whatever girl i wanted, and girls actually came up to me and wanted me! i gained bout 15 lbs and was workin out like a mofo. i never felt as good in my life.but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!there is a downside to it, u bacically have to do it for the rest of ur life if u want to keep that feeling. when u stop doing it, ur body produces estogen to even out the levels of test in ur body, while it stops producing testosterone. at that point when u stop, depending on how much and how long u've used it, u will become miserable, loose sexual desire and feel depressed. also, i am not a violent person, but testosterone gives u rage! u feel as if u want to rip someones head off. all and all, not a great idea!one of my best friends almost killed me when he got off that shit over a stupid girl. he was on it for yrs, now he's fried mentally, and he'll admit it too. i'd suggest workin out regularly, it will pay off in the end and u still get results and feel good without the shit!

horrible stuff dont do any of it, personaly i dont even like the idea of using creatine, i feel like im cheating if i use anything outside of protein, but it really is up to the lifter. Sterioids tho...bad news

yeah one a my friends uses roids, he doesnt admit it but he's fukin huge and he's always pissed off. Everytime i see him he's pissed at something

Then the one day he said he doesnt take roids but he takes some supplement thats illegal. He's a bouncer right now, i dont think theres anybody he couldnt fuk up

oh shit.

if u get zits, look out! times them by ten if u use roids!

i say dont do them... heres my reasons...

1) they cost a shit load to do a cycle and do it right (whatever stack your doing is going to probably cost at least $300 plus you need clomid for post-cycle which brings back your natural test levels and nolvadex which you MUST start taking at the very first sign of gyno commonly known as bitch tits. your probably going to want something like chrysin which will help keep your high test levels from converting to estrogen during cycle. all in all gear + all provenative measures + supplements = around $500-$700 do to it RIGHT)
2) You still have the chance of gyno no matter what. theres professional bodybuilders that have slight gyno and you know they do their cycles right
3) roid rage and acne and baldness and you can possibly become sterile after taking them so no kids for you

sure you're going to gain muscle but are the side effects worth it? come on. all-in-all... if your not a body builder or professional athlete (they get paid because of their body and proformance) is there really a reason to use them? no

I considered taking a shot or two, just to boost my muscle mass, because it is hard for me to gain any muscle. No matter how hard I work, I never get past a certain point. Its like a plateau. If I could do one or two shots just to break my plateau, and then keep working out so as not to lose it all, then I might do it.

Of course, I have never researched, and I would before I ever did it, but thats just my uneducated view on it. Aside from that, I wouldnt want to take it any further. I wouldnt let myself get carried away and I would quit after a couple months.

THis is an intrested topic, I should say. Really. Keep it going guys. I, dont know if I would take steroids, first I dont know where to get them, second I dont know the side effects and what they can do to me, Third, I just dont want to hurt the ppl around me. Im plenty of crazy right now as it is, and while on sted, ill probally kill some1 lol So i dont know..

Id have to say no, I'm a football player and i work out every day of the week. Steroids are just going to mess you up in the long run inless your a professional bodybulider where then it doesnt really matter. I take GNC MegaMan which is i guess you could call a suppliment and it gives you energy and helps bulid muscle. You can gain muscle buy a good diet and working out not roids.

- Kevin

Nope. Upside is getting bigger, faster, but the downside is HUGE and not worth it, IMO. Lots of guys that did lots of 'roids died early, and if you stop doing them you shrink back down.

RickwithaTbird, if you have trouble packing on any muscle, you might have the thinner body type like me. If I work out the same body part daily, I don't get any bigger. I need an additional day or two of rest to show results.

I think i get the point. I watched that shit on Sportscenter talking about steroids.

my personal results were from 137 to 150 to 137! u can only keep alittle weight if u keep at working out. i did feel way better when i did work out, but i just have to many things to do besides workin out. plus i dont really care if im not jacked cause that just makes me stand out in a crowded club full of testosterone induced assholes!lol.also if a girl likes me cause i have big muscles, shes probably a pretty shallow girl. i look for personallity first(but looks are neccesity also), and expect the same in return. i just said that cause thats why i wanted to try it. lesson learned.

well from my experience nutrition is the way to go. I put on 15 lbs of muscle mass and decrease my body fat by 5% using nutrional supplements NOT steroids. I'm actually healthier because of it. Good skin and feel great!!

I vouche for not going on Steriods.

I can still remember learning about all the bad shit in 8th grade health class. Just say no.

well from my experience nutrition is the way to go. I put on 15 lbs of muscle mass and decrease my body fat by 5% using nutrional supplements NOT steroids. I'm actually healthier because of it. Good skin and feel great!!

what supplements did you use?

its like somebody else already said, the downsides to using steroids far outweigh the benefits. Personally I don't feel its gonna make a difference what most guys say on this thread coz if you wanna do the roids then you're gonna do it no matter what. My only advice is that you should do as much research on the net as possible about every possible side effect for steroids.

And if you're thinking that professional bodybuilders are all healthy even after years of steroid use then check up on flex wheeler and see what happened to him after years of steroid use. See what he looks like now compared to how he did 10 years ago.

as for the guys who say they're making no gains at the gym. Well again do a bit of research. I'm willing to bet its one of two things thats holding you back from gaining muscle. Either you are 1) overtraining your muscles, meaning working the same muscles more than twice a week or doing too many exercuises for that muscle, or 2)you are not going intense enough in your exercises and not switching your workout schedule as often enough. Check out bodybuilding.com, they have a plethora of information on absolutely anything to do with bodybuilding and fitness. Hope i've helped.

I've used supplements before, and they were very helpful... up to a point. Once I reached a max bench of about 175-185, I could no longer progress. I used protein shakes, and had a hamburger every day after weight training 4 days of the week for 4 months. In 3 of those months I went from a max bench of about 100 pounds, to a max bench of 175 pounds. Then during that last month of the same routine, I could never get past 175. Then in my senior year it was the same thing. I absolutely could not get past 185 as a max, and I worked out all year. After high school, same thing. Never put up more than 185. Supplements didnt help me get past that. Ive tried everything.

What would really be so bad about taking one or two steroid shots and then quitting? If I was to do that, I would first get a gym membership, that way I could have a guaranteed way to work out once I quit the roids. I wouldnt do it if I knew I wouldnt be able to keep on lifting. But lets say I did the shot...

how bad would 1 or 2 be?
Once I break my plateau with roids, won't it be easier for me to stay there?
And lets say something happened and I couldnt work out and I lost all my muscle mass... wouldnt it be easier for me to break 185 again since I had already done it before?

I really want to get bigger and stronger, because Im a very tall guy, and I look weaker than I am. I don't like looking skinny, but it is impossible for me to get any bigger. Why would I not want to take one or two shots?

how bad would 1 or 2 be?
Once I break my plateau with roids, won't it be easier for me to stay there?

No, once you're off the roids the effect is totally gone and you WILL shrink back to normal size.
Why would I not want to take one or two shots?

Do some research and then you tell me why you WOULD want to take steroids :icon16:

Supplements are not like a steroid, everyone seems to think that if you take protein adn creatine and other supplements that you should be able to lift more. Supplements will not help you lift more, they supplement your growth not provide it. If you want to be able to bench more and you're hitting a plateau then you obviously need a new workout schedule amongst other things. How long are you resting between sets? how many workouts do you do for chest and triceps? How many days do you workout and are you getting enough sleep. These are the basics to growth and something there must be wrong if you're not making gains. Look at these factors and try and figure out where you're going wrong.

oh and being tall shouldn't be the reason why you can't bench more than 185, I'm 6foot and i can bench 308lbs. Personally i busted my plateau by changing my resting period between sets and changing to a workout which is more focused on powerlifting rather than just lean muscle growth. Try bodybuilding.com, i cna't stress how great this site is and how many times its helped me with problems to do with bodybuilding. hope i've helped.

Most people who have responded don't have the knowledge required to use steroids correctly. Listen to the guys who know what they are talking about.

Rick:
I guarantee you are doing one of the following wrong: 1) diet, 2) training, 3) rest, 4) sleep.

How many calories do you take in a day? If you're skinny like me, it should be over 4000 in order to gain weight. I take in 4800-5000 a day and i've been slowly gaining. Also, hamburgers are not the best post-workout meal. Try a protein shake followed by 1 cup of oats within 30-45 minutes after your workout. Some people prefer simple carbs after a workout, but oats work best for me. Most people who can't gain mass can't because their diet isn't in check. You should be eating 6-7 times a day with quality foods such as: chicken, lean red meat, tuna, salmon, yams, sweet potatoes, oats, whole wheat bread, natural peanut butter, flax/fish/olive oil, all veggies, and skim milk (if you don't mind the sugar in it). A good saying is, "muscle is made in the kitchen, not the gym" and it is very true.

Overtraining has already been mentioned in this thread, and it is a possibility in why you aren't gaining. Most people shouldn't work a muscle group more than once a week. Rest is needed for muscle growth.

Another thing, you need a minimum of 8 hours of sleep a night. Your body repairs itself when you sleep, so you need enough of it.

P.S. Bodybuilding.com is a very informative site as long as you stay away from the teen section ;). Another good site is abcbodybuilding.com, some very educated and intelligent people there.

ever seen benny and the roids(health class), funny shit, but its pretty close to the truth. he starts beating his girlfriend and fighting everyone. his bench went up like 80 lbs! but he was a total asshole.

if you think supplements don't make you stonger your using the wrong stuff. You have to know what your're looking for. My max bench use to be 185. I only weigh 160 and I can now max out at 265. i've never taken a steroid before. The key key is also in how you recover and how train like 04blackvitz said. If anyone is interested in suplements that really work let me know. You be better in the long run and still have the resuts you want!

what supplements did you use?

I take supplements from a company I was introduced to a couple of years ago. The are a direct sales company that is exploading in the world of health and nutrition. " Advocare.com." They are fully indorsed by the NFL and the USA olympics. If those guys can take this stuff without failing a drug test it's gotta be safe. Plus they don't pay any of their endorsers so that'll tell ya it's gotta work. Check out the site and Private me if you got ??'s Just hit the I know someone icon and type in my mem ID in my signature.

I understand about eating all that stuff, but damn is it hard. I'm not blaming my inability to bench more than 185 on my height (to me 6' is short though) but rather, I was trying to say that I want to make more gains because being tall makes me look weaker than I am.

I increased my bench by 75 pounds in 3 months, and in the following month, I made no gains with the same routine. Then after a couple years it got up to 185, but never further than that. I know it cant be that hard for EVERYONE.

and about losing the muscle mass after getting off steroids... I understand that I would not be as strong as I was before. But are you saying that once I lose that muscle mass I would have just as hard of a time breaking 185 again?

And what if I did the steroid shots for two months, then quit the shots, but kept working out and eating good? I did a little research on steroids, but have found no information about doing one or two shots then quitting. All the information tends to lean towards the negative long term effects, and focus on how bad it is when you use steroids a lot. Has anybody ever just tried it for a couple months? like two shots? Could it really be that bad for you? (please only answer from personal experience or if you know a website with info about my specific question because I cant find that information.)

how tall are you? weight? why dont you tell us the specifics of your workout and then mabe we'll be able to tell you if your doing something wrong

6'8 190. Right now I can't workout because I have no weights, but what I was doing was this:

I had weight training 4 out of 5 school days. Monday I would bench, work triceps, and forearms.
Teusday I would work legs, sitting leg press, standing leg press, calf raises.
Wednesday bench, and triceps, and max bench
thursday no weights
Friday max bench, triceps, leg press, calf raises.

I used a lot of protein shakes, drank a lot of milk, and ate a lot of hamburgers. Never changed my routine, but still hit that plateau.

Right now I dont have the means to work out, and I won't have for a while. Probably at least until after my birthday in August. I do push ups and sit ups, but that just keeps me toned. I can get kind of cut if I do push ups and sit ups routinely for a couple months, but Im still skinny. I dont consider roids as my only option, I know I need to have time and money to dedicate to working out right and eating right before I can expect to get any bigger. I will wait until I get the chance to work out for at least 3 months before I even think about a steroid shot.

Dont get me wrong though I'm not thinking steroids are all good. I would only do it if nothing else works for me once I get the chance to try it again naturally, and that doesnt work.

in my responce, i am talking from personal experience, i only did bout 5-6 shots which is like half a cycle, took the pills and worked out hard, drank the protien shakes, ate good, did 5 sets of 5, had a personal trainer. it was all good, but once u stop, u will loose the weight!unless u plan on using it forever and dying at 50 from a hearty attack, i wouldnt do it. you will love it at first, but when u stop u will be miserable, depressed, and u will shrink. the beginning plus is great, but the ending results are shitty. i know at least 5 good friends that were into it bigtime.they would always try to get me to follow them into deisel world!lol finally i gave in and tried it. i got out of it and watched them ruin there lives literally.

I had weight training 4 out of 5 school days. Monday I would bench, work triceps, and forearms.
Teusday I would work legs, sitting leg press, standing leg press, calf raises.
Wednesday bench, and triceps, and max bench
thursday no weights
Friday max bench, triceps, leg press, calf raises

First off, you were obviously and clearly overtraining, no wonder you made no gains. Most people think twice a week to exercise a muscle group is overtraining yet you were doing it not twice but three times a week. Stick to working each muscle group ONCE a week. Muscles grow when they are resting not at the gym.
I'm gonna take a wild guess and also assume you were doing way too many sets. 9-12 sets should be your goal for your chest. That means no more than 4 exercises with no more than 4 sets of each exercise.

Also, what kind of protein were you using? was it mass gainer protein or whey protein? For someone as lean as you and wanting to gain bulk you should use mass gainers which give a hell of a lot of protein adn calories as someone i think already mentioned.

Lol, also you say that you never changed your routine. You should change your workout routine around every 6 weeks in order to stimulate muscle growth by using different areas of the muscle with new exercises.
You obviously had sooooooo many things that youw ere doing wrong when yuo worked out so thats why you got no results. If you workout properly then i am 100% sure you will get the results you want without the need for steroids. but hey, its your life do what you want.
Sorry its such a long reply but i hope this helps.

Rick you're 6'8'' !!! holy shit, you're a monster. Taller than Michael Jordan, and a full foot taller than me lol but only 30 pounds heavier. You must be skinny as hell, if you're that tall you should be 200+ lbs

I'd say use that mass gainer protein

zwrangler is exactly right. if you do just a little bit of research, and ask people that have been there, they're all going to say what zwrangler did. eat,lift,eat,sleep it's easy if you do it right. you're using steroids as an excuse.

hey now... Im skinny, but not skinny as hell. Ive seen pictures from when I was 6'5 150, and THAT was skinny as hell. Heres a picture:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/24089672c5.jpg

I weighed 195 in that picture. I didnt try to flex or anything to look bigger either. So I think if I was about 210 - 215 after muscle gains, I would be somewhat stout. But the thing is, its hard to hit 200. I did it when I was 15, but since high school I havent been able to work out every day anymore. Once I get a good job installing car stereos as an MECP, I will have the time and money to start working out again, and by that time I will probably get a subscription to a good magazine with tips on workout programs, and I will have done more research too. Im pretty sure I can reach about 215 with some hard work, but I really cant imagine ever reaching 230, 240. It seems impossible.

what nationality are you? You look like this portuguese guy i know

im just white. Thats the first time anyone said I look potugee lol. When I shave I look like a straight up white boy, but when I grow my goatee and mustache I look italian. Must just be the bad photo quality.

Anyways, about the steroid topic, I was just tossing that idea around since the thread was there. But from what you guys all say, I don't think that I will do it. But I can't honestly say that I would never consider one or two shots if I am having a hard time even while trying my best. But like you all said, if I eat right and work out right I should be able to do it, and thats really the only situation I would take steroids in anyways. So it shouldn't come down to that.

yeah you dont need steroids, definately try improving your routine before anything else, hit each muscle group twice a week, once hard and once (about 3 days later) lightly, dont work out one group very hard more than once a week though. If you plan it out right you should hit one muscle group hard and a different one lightly every day for the most efficient plan. along w/ whey protein eat turkey, chicken, ham, that sort of stuff instead of burgers. Itll help you a lot more. If you want you could take creatine as well, it will give you more energy during your sets, youll hit more reps. Get plenty of rest at night too, thats when your muscles do most of their growing

I would think about giving it a go. I have seen guys put on 20+ kg of muscle over a month or two. Maybe.
so you can become impotent and grow breasts? :lol2:

That could happen anyway, at least I'd be 20kg heavier to smack the first one to laugh at it. :icon16:

Ok, I can personally vouch for this since I have taken steroids. Ive taken dynaball. My father has competed in bodybuilding and has taken them and so has my brother. My brother has taken dynaball, test, eq and is just getting ready to start another cycle with winny as well as 2 other things.

First of all...1 or 2 shots of steroids wont even be noticable. Youll probably have to be on a cycle for a 2-3 weeks to even start to notice gains.

I have heard of people having rage using steroids, but in my personal experience as well as my brother and father, we have never had any sort of mood swings.

Excessive use of steroids can be hard on your liver.

Acne break outs can occur. Again, in my case as well as my brothers, it was not an issue.

I think its funny how people say, I dont want to take steroids because I might get too big. :lol: These people you see on the covers of Muscle and Fiction...errr Fitness, sorry are genetically gifted. Not to mention, they spend over $50,000 in steroids and prohormones for a competition. Some steroids will make you bigger, others will rip you up. Its generally best to stack one of both. Steroids is not a miracle drug all within itself. It takes the right diet, workout intensity, sleep, as well as other supplements to take full benefit of a cycle. Most poeple probably gain about 15 lbs per cycle and on the off cycle, probably keep a few pounds.

Steroids can make your balls strink. Dynaball had no affect on me, but the injectable stuff like test and eq as well as hormones, will certainly take their effect. Like someone said earlier Clomid or 6oxo can be used to produce more estrogen in the body after a post cycle.

Steroids do make you stronger and the recovery cycle is shortened. :smile:

Thats all that i can think of for now.

that's some good insight from someone who has taken them...

but its dianabol not dynaball. im sure your bro and dad helped you out with your routine and cycle. but if you don't know what to take or how to take it. DO NOT DO A CYCLE

agreed that 2 shots aint gettin u nothing, but six over a 2 week period will. i wouldnt say i had mood swings, just feeling pissed all the time!!!!for a calm guy thats gotta say something. i did d-ball, and test. i tell u the bad shit happens when u stop, but like i said, if u want to take it forever and shorten ur lifespan, ull be ok. just a heart attack at 50, but u would be ripped!

that is some serious insight from a guy that has taken steroids.

I also heard that steroids is more riskier in the injected form instead of the gel that Crappy Bonds used?

Is that true?

i actually used that gel shit before and it was weaker then the shot. it was also in a legal packaging which was kind of conforting, and u dont have to take that needle!!!!!that shit sucked!u feel like a heroin user or somethin.

First off, you were obviously and clearly overtraining, no wonder you made no gains. Most people think twice a week to exercise a muscle group is overtraining yet you were doing it not twice but three times a week. Stick to working each muscle group ONCE a week. Muscles grow when they are resting not at the gym.
I'm gonna take a wild guess and also assume you were doing way too many sets. 9-12 sets should be your goal for your chest. That means no more than 4 exercises with no more than 4 sets of each exercise.

I 100% Agree, there are some people that really know their shit here.

I sometimes do muscles twice a week, but only if I'm getting a lot of rest in between. You also have to look at the recovery time for certain groups, biceps and calves I believe are about 24 hours, while lower back is 72 hours. You have to learn about your body before you can expect to improve it.

I once read that Dorian Yates spent 3 weeks reading books before he lifted a single weight at the start of his career.

Another reason for your plateauing is your height, as you've undoubtely noticed. Us taller folk (I'm 6' 4") have longer arms, and therefore greater moments in our shoulders require to bench amongst other exercises. It's extremely hard for me to make gains wheras my 5' 9" friend can see consistent gains even after time off.

Just stick with it, ifg you feel it isn't working, switch things up, try more or less reps, different exercises, start with different exercises. Never do the same routine twice, change at least one thing. Don't forget dedication either. Since I started going hardcore 1.5 years ago, my bench has gone up about 100 lbs (150-255) and my frame is slowly filling out, but you have to be consistent!

Again, don't neglect nutrition. I can't stand to be in the presence of salt of manufactured sugars anymore. Keep things high in protein and carbs, low in empty calories.

edit: forgot my stance on steroids.

For me my gains have been quite satisfactory and so I have no need for such things... yet. I say yet because maybe someday I might end up being some sort of bodybuilder, but I would never consider such a thing unless I was at the top amateur level.

I think a lot of people are looking for big gains, quickly. I love gains as much as the next guy, but I can wait. I have hopes and dreams, but I've come to peace with the fact that those will take time and energy to achieve. Steroids to me seem like you're taking a shortcut rather than running the whole race.

I just think that if I ever did, I'd want at least 10-12 years of training to remind me of how hard I worked to get there and put in perspective what I actually had to gain at that point. I'd say if you're under 25, you're too young to be consdiering such a thing as steroids. Give it a couple more years then decide where you want to go with things. No point in being retardedly jacked if you misuse it.

Fuck it all. I would probably still give it a stab just to know for sure exactly how it affects me and what the capabilities of the substance are.

i was thinkin of doing that?

To the guy who keeps wanting to just take 1 shot, you need to take it on cycles for it to work in. So that's generally 4 to 6 weeks per cycle and sometimes injections can feel like someone just hit you with a hammer in the spot you injected for like 2 days.

Kinda weird because we're talking about roids and the whole baseball thing is on the news.

Kinda weird because we're talking about roids and the whole baseball thing is on the news.

lol i think thats what started this thread Mr. obvious :icon16:

Yeah true........after all the hype about it and the high school kids at my school, i just got more curious about it.