Alclad 2 Prismatic
cfcrules
02-14-2005, 01:36 PM
Hi, i was helping my bro spray his mustang in alclad 2 prismatic paint, i reached the point where i need to clearcoat, what type do you reccomend, as on their website they say to clearcoat but aren't specific about the type to use. For the undercoat, i used tamiya british racing green, was matallic not the right choice
DukeMan
02-14-2005, 01:50 PM
Hey I did the exact same thing for a friend on his Mercedes! He also lay down the base coat with Tamiya Racing green, then I sprayed it with Alclad prismatic green to blue. After I did that he clear-coated it with a Humbrol clear I belive, it didīnt turn out super-smooth but it was still very good. I think you should use Tamiya x-22 if you want to be sure that nothing can happen to the alclad paint (specially since it isīnt very cheap). It may be a problem to get it really smooth at first, but some 2000p sanding and some rubbing and itīll be a real eye-catcher!
cfcrules
02-14-2005, 01:52 PM
Cheers. I've had that problem with humbrol clearcoat as well I think they make it a bit thicker than other companies
DukeMan
02-14-2005, 01:55 PM
Ah well, Iīm just glad I could help. I guess more thinner could the solution to the problem then?
Good luck either way you decide on doing it!
Good luck either way you decide on doing it!
malsheem
02-14-2005, 01:58 PM
Do you guys have any pics of those paint jobs? Alclad recommends a gloss black basecoat before any prismatic paint is applied. This goes in line with other color-changing paints, like HOK chameleon and Gunze Mr. Color Mazoora, both of which require black basecoats as well. Just curious to see what results other basecoats yield.
As for clearcoat, I will be using Gunze Super Clear (my standard clearcoat) over my Alclad Scarabeus over Alclad Gloss black.
As for clearcoat, I will be using Gunze Super Clear (my standard clearcoat) over my Alclad Scarabeus over Alclad Gloss black.
DukeMan
02-14-2005, 02:17 PM
Do you guys have any pics of those paint jobs? Alclad recommends a gloss black basecoat before any prismatic paint is applied. This goes in line with other color-changing paints, like HOK chameleon and Gunze Mr. Color Mazoora, both of which require black basecoats as well. Just curious to see what results other basecoats yield.
As for clearcoat, I will be using Gunze Super Clear (my standard clearcoat) over my Alclad Scarabeus over Alclad Gloss black.
Thatīs exactly what I was telling him too, but it was his model so... He wanted the green to really come through, and it did. Plus, on that bottle it said something like this: "can be applied over any dark lacquer or Tamiya TS paint". As for pictures you may already have seen it :eek: In a previous thread showing pictures from CCM open here in Sweden. If you didīnt here are some more (now the finish could be a lot better if he just agreed on polishing it up a bit but then again, itīs his model):
http://img67.exs.cx/img67/8123/dsc044302cs.th.jpg (http://img67.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img67&image=dsc044302cs.jpg)
http://img236.exs.cx/img236/4062/dsc044299fm.th.jpg (http://img236.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img236&image=dsc044299fm.jpg)
http://img56.exs.cx/img56/5104/dsc044314nc.th.jpg (http://img56.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img56&image=dsc044314nc.jpg)
Hope this helps!
As for clearcoat, I will be using Gunze Super Clear (my standard clearcoat) over my Alclad Scarabeus over Alclad Gloss black.
Thatīs exactly what I was telling him too, but it was his model so... He wanted the green to really come through, and it did. Plus, on that bottle it said something like this: "can be applied over any dark lacquer or Tamiya TS paint". As for pictures you may already have seen it :eek: In a previous thread showing pictures from CCM open here in Sweden. If you didīnt here are some more (now the finish could be a lot better if he just agreed on polishing it up a bit but then again, itīs his model):
http://img67.exs.cx/img67/8123/dsc044302cs.th.jpg (http://img67.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img67&image=dsc044302cs.jpg)
http://img236.exs.cx/img236/4062/dsc044299fm.th.jpg (http://img236.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img236&image=dsc044299fm.jpg)
http://img56.exs.cx/img56/5104/dsc044314nc.th.jpg (http://img56.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img56&image=dsc044314nc.jpg)
Hope this helps!
malsheem
02-14-2005, 02:30 PM
Thanks for the pics. The color-shifting doesn't seem as noticeable under that basecoat. Seems more like a pearl coat than color-shift, though that could be just the pics as it's hard to photograph the effect properly.
Ferrari TR
02-14-2005, 02:31 PM
A black base gives the strongest color change. Whatever base color you use will be the color the paint appears to be in the 'neutral' state between color changes. Just think of the color changing paint as a clear coat that shifts from one color to neutral to another color.
I like a medium silver base for most of the FNP stuff that I do, the car appears to be just silver untill you move!
:p
I like a medium silver base for most of the FNP stuff that I do, the car appears to be just silver untill you move!
:p
tonioseven
02-14-2005, 03:09 PM
I've used Tamiya, Duplicolor, Plastikote, and Testors all with good results.
Okiemodelbuilder
02-14-2005, 08:54 PM
Here are some samples of the Alclad prismatic colors that the owner of my LHS sprayed over black Testors prepainted models.
Scarabus green to blue:
http://images8.fotki.com/v108/photos/2/224343/880861/DSC00005-vi.jpg?1108435396
Maple copper red to green:
http://images7.fotki.com/v151/photos/2/224343/880861/DSC00006-vi.jpg?1108435418
Jade green to gold:
http://images7.fotki.com/v152/photos/2/224343/880861/DSC00007-vi.jpg?1108435439
Sapphire deep blue to UV purple. This is a Revell '56 Chevy with a Tamiya TS gloss black base:
http://images8.fotki.com/v153/photos/2/224343/880861/DSC00002-vi.jpg?1108435370
These are cleared with 2 part urethane clear. I would use Tamiya TS-13 clear. These give a pretty good idea of the color change properties. These paints are hard to photograph.
Marc
Scarabus green to blue:
http://images8.fotki.com/v108/photos/2/224343/880861/DSC00005-vi.jpg?1108435396
Maple copper red to green:
http://images7.fotki.com/v151/photos/2/224343/880861/DSC00006-vi.jpg?1108435418
Jade green to gold:
http://images7.fotki.com/v152/photos/2/224343/880861/DSC00007-vi.jpg?1108435439
Sapphire deep blue to UV purple. This is a Revell '56 Chevy with a Tamiya TS gloss black base:
http://images8.fotki.com/v153/photos/2/224343/880861/DSC00002-vi.jpg?1108435370
These are cleared with 2 part urethane clear. I would use Tamiya TS-13 clear. These give a pretty good idea of the color change properties. These paints are hard to photograph.
Marc
Vric
02-14-2005, 09:19 PM
Alclad 2 is Lacquer, so use Lacquer Clear (Tamiya or other) Humbrol is enamel I think
DukeMan
02-15-2005, 03:51 AM
My god those colors are truly awesome! My LHS only has the green to blue in stock but lately he asked me if I wanted him to order some of the other colors too. I wasīnt sure because I had no idea what they looked like, now that I do, oh man, well letīs just say that my super-detailed Mustang project might get a touch of sapphire blue :iceslolan
proosen
02-15-2005, 07:02 AM
My god those colors are truly awesome! My LHS only has the green to blue in stock but lately he asked me if I wanted him to order some of the other colors too. I wasīnt sure because I had no idea what they looked like, now that I do, oh man, well letīs just say that my super-detailed Mustang project might get a touch of sapphire blue :iceslolan
Please tell Mr. Rebell that I'm intrested to in more of these colours, I got the Scarabeus green to blue when we first met at the shop. Still haven't used it, got to get me some inspiration for my '49 merc leadsled wreck that I have laying around in bits and pieces. Maybe a slammer would be nice for a change, fast enough to put together :naughty:
See ya!
Niclas
Please tell Mr. Rebell that I'm intrested to in more of these colours, I got the Scarabeus green to blue when we first met at the shop. Still haven't used it, got to get me some inspiration for my '49 merc leadsled wreck that I have laying around in bits and pieces. Maybe a slammer would be nice for a change, fast enough to put together :naughty:
See ya!
Niclas
Lurchio
02-15-2005, 07:23 AM
Cheers guys, I've just bought the sapphire to UV and wasn't sure of the best application (still waiting for my Alclad glss black - out of stock at MOM).
Looks stunning on the 56 chevy!
Will certainly have some fun with that now!
Looks stunning on the 56 chevy!
Will certainly have some fun with that now!
p9o1r1sche
02-15-2005, 08:08 AM
Here's a Porsche 928 with the sapphire blue to UV prismatic paint. Unfortunately, I dont remember what clear coat I used. I really like the deep blue highlights and black shadows.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/502/95779Porsche_928_-01-med.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/502/95779Porsche_928_-01-med.JPG
DukeMan
02-15-2005, 08:26 AM
Please tell Mr. Rebell that I'm intrested to in more of these colours, I got the Scarabeus green to blue when we first met at the shop. Still haven't used it, got to get me some inspiration for my '49 merc leadsled wreck that I have laying around in bits and pieces. Maybe a slammer would be nice for a change, fast enough to put together :naughty:
See ya!
Niclas
Iīm going there later today, Iīll hear if heīs planning to order from Hannats soon, in that case Iīll order the Saphire blue, did you want any particular paint? Send me a PM in that case and we can talk more about that.
See ya!
Niclas
Iīm going there later today, Iīll hear if heīs planning to order from Hannats soon, in that case Iīll order the Saphire blue, did you want any particular paint? Send me a PM in that case and we can talk more about that.
cfcrules
02-15-2005, 09:30 AM
Cheers I'll try Tamiya. What colour do you lot think for the Lamborghini Mucielago?
Lurchio
02-15-2005, 10:04 AM
That's stunning, maybe should have used that on the 911 carrera I'm building now! Just painted that in a pearlised dark metallic blue!
deedlit
02-15-2005, 10:51 AM
Interesting thread. It answers a lot of questions I had about Alclad prismatic paint. The golf III I've started will be painted in that color and now I know what I have to do. Will keep this thread in my favourites.
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