Plz let this be the answer.....
FlawedByNature
02-13-2005, 12:16 PM
Ok, my dad seems to think that he read something somewhere that said if you run a fuel tank dry (which mine was for several years) the only thing you have to do to get it running again is put a certain amount of fuel in the system before it can fire up.
I really really really dont want to change out the fuel pump on my '92 RS and i need to know if all i need to do is put some gas in and save myself a world of trouble. Thx.
I really really really dont want to change out the fuel pump on my '92 RS and i need to know if all i need to do is put some gas in and save myself a world of trouble. Thx.
tardster
02-13-2005, 12:53 PM
Well in that case the only thing to do is try it, first start by putting in a couple gallons and keep adding untill it fires up. Bad thing though is that might not work and then you have wasted all that time when you could have used it on replacing the fuel pump and if its sat that long dry you might want to replace it anyway (yeah i know its a pain n the a$$) but it might save you bigger problems down the road.
FlawedByNature
02-13-2005, 02:22 PM
bah
i tried adding fuel (around 6 gallons) and nothing.
i also used starter fluid and then tried manually forcing fuel down the system and it fires up for a second and then dies.
>sigh<
guess that means i have no choice but to change out the pump huh?
that sux
just curious, and im not gonna, but how much do you think a 76 Station would charge to change out the pump for me?
i tried adding fuel (around 6 gallons) and nothing.
i also used starter fluid and then tried manually forcing fuel down the system and it fires up for a second and then dies.
>sigh<
guess that means i have no choice but to change out the pump huh?
that sux
just curious, and im not gonna, but how much do you think a 76 Station would charge to change out the pump for me?
tardster
02-13-2005, 03:06 PM
An arm, a leg and maybe a testicle or 2...........lol
tardster
02-13-2005, 03:41 PM
If a gas station or a shop does it, it will cost you big time because they are going to drop the gas tank etc. you can do it yourself without going through all of that and save yourself alot of money. You can peel up the carpet in the trunk area and cut out a square area of the metal right above the top of the tank as long as you are carefull, then replace the old fuel pump and then you just have to put the piece of metal that you cut out back in and with it (i would just tack weld it in and seal it with some all weather caulking) being covered by the carpet your not going to hurt anything or value. Also if you ever have any problems again with it you have access to it.
82KnightRider
02-13-2005, 04:01 PM
An arm, a leg and maybe a testicle or 2...........lol
roflmao....
roflmao....
FlawedByNature
02-13-2005, 04:36 PM
great idea, im gonna cut her open.
thx dude
and yea, i was pretty sure that i would lose a couple limbs if i had someone else do it for me, i was just wonderin lmfao
thx dude
and yea, i was pretty sure that i would lose a couple limbs if i had someone else do it for me, i was just wonderin lmfao
tardster
02-13-2005, 05:42 PM
Im not sure how you took that about doing it yourself but 4 real it would save you alot of money and time if you went that way. My parts camaro was done that way and I would have never know it untill I removed the carpeting and seen where the person I got it from had done that (I could take a couple pictures if you dont know where to cut it). He used a grinder and right behind the back seat he cut out prolly about a 6 inch square and replaced the old one and tacked the metal back in, and aslong as you dont plan on driving around town without carpeting in your trunk no one will ever know.
FlawedByNature
02-13-2005, 05:47 PM
i plan on keeping the carpet in, dont worry.
but im definately gonna do surgery, hell no am i dropping the tank and all that bullshit, ive already done that once w/ my moms Astro van, theres no way in hell ill ever do that again if i can avoid it.
but i would like to see those pix if you have them..
thx
but im definately gonna do surgery, hell no am i dropping the tank and all that bullshit, ive already done that once w/ my moms Astro van, theres no way in hell ill ever do that again if i can avoid it.
but i would like to see those pix if you have them..
thx
tardster
02-13-2005, 05:49 PM
ok let me see if I can get out there its starting to get dark here, give me a few.
FlawedByNature
02-13-2005, 05:51 PM
thanx a mil
tardster
02-13-2005, 06:23 PM
Ok here u go, hope this helps. Also in the bottom pic where you see the piece of metal bent upwards, the tarp and all that other junk is where the backseat use to be.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/133306Picture_0231.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/133306Picture_0241.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/133306Picture_0231.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/133306Picture_0241.jpg
LS1MAN
02-13-2005, 07:00 PM
i'd be afraid it would leak
tardster
02-13-2005, 07:02 PM
You mean where the cut was made?
Morley
02-13-2005, 07:53 PM
Droping the tank is no big deal. It takes about 3-4 hours total to change the pump and you won't have to compromise the UNI-body construction of your car. Seriously, cutting a hole like that in your trunk is NOT a good idea.
FlawedByNature
02-13-2005, 09:44 PM
thats funny, because as i recall, it took many more than that the last time i did it on a chevy. probably because it was a giant Astro van and i didnt have a lift, but yea.
besides, its not exactly the greatest looking car in the world right now, its waaaaaaaaaaaaay too screwed up to ever be worth caring about what it LOOKS like. i just want it to run. which i plan on getting done.
im gonna go cut that hole and solve my problem. so thx tardster
besides, its not exactly the greatest looking car in the world right now, its waaaaaaaaaaaaay too screwed up to ever be worth caring about what it LOOKS like. i just want it to run. which i plan on getting done.
im gonna go cut that hole and solve my problem. so thx tardster
Genopsyde
02-13-2005, 09:55 PM
you still gotta go underneath and d/c the lines and harness to the sending unit.
-Josh-
02-13-2005, 10:02 PM
lmao....while you're at it use an oxy acetylene torch to cut the hole, that should get the job done quick.... :loser:
There's two straps holding the tank up, remove the lines, remove the bolts holding the straps and drop the tank...so much easier...
There's two straps holding the tank up, remove the lines, remove the bolts holding the straps and drop the tank...so much easier...
86TATpi
02-13-2005, 10:08 PM
Except with 3rd gen F-body you have to drop the axle low enough to pull the tank down. I'm not a fan of cutting the floor and I'd never do it, but it's also not my car.
FlawedByNature
02-13-2005, 11:04 PM
my manual says for my '92, (im still new at this but that would be a fourth gen if im not mistaken) i would still have to lower the axle. and i really dont have the patience or the ground clearance to do that. without it running i cant get it to my shop to use our lifts, and i dont even have a decent floor jack here, the best i can do is get the back end driver side a little more than a foot off the ground. so the complicated way is just not an option right now.
and like i said with a car as messed up as this one, i dont care what it LOOKS like, i want it to RUN lol
and like i said with a car as messed up as this one, i dont care what it LOOKS like, i want it to RUN lol
86TATpi
02-14-2005, 08:49 AM
82-92 are third gen, just be careful not to cut fuel lines
LS1MAN
02-14-2005, 09:41 PM
If you are going to cut the hole, don't patch it up with caulk at least weld it back on. but it wouldn't be that hard to drop the gas tank if you have some 20 dollar ramps from wal-mart
FlawedByNature
02-16-2005, 09:57 AM
Well, i already chopped it and now ive got the open flap exposing my tank. but there are no disconnects in sight... wtf?
i followed the lines several feet and there are none.
there is a place where someone cut them and then repaired all three with hoses and clamps, but no disconnects.
and its just like i said it would be, the fuel pump. i disconnected the rings and lifted the unit whatever little i could, and i can see pieces of plastic from the pump on the bottom of the tank. so its been pumping gas.... but just around in the tank. lol
so now ive gotta pick up a new pump. :/
does anyone happen to have a pic of what a complete fuel pump assembly for my '92 would look like? i just want to make sure mine have been tampered with.
thx.
i followed the lines several feet and there are none.
there is a place where someone cut them and then repaired all three with hoses and clamps, but no disconnects.
and its just like i said it would be, the fuel pump. i disconnected the rings and lifted the unit whatever little i could, and i can see pieces of plastic from the pump on the bottom of the tank. so its been pumping gas.... but just around in the tank. lol
so now ive gotta pick up a new pump. :/
does anyone happen to have a pic of what a complete fuel pump assembly for my '92 would look like? i just want to make sure mine have been tampered with.
thx.
Wiriza01
02-20-2005, 03:11 PM
I thought about the above, and regret dropping the tank on a 94 camaro. The above would have saved a lot of time Especially since exahaust was always in the way (no cat). I suppose another Plus would be not having that "extra part" with out a home now... J/k
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