My fourth 240. Easy fix?
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GSR2NR94
02-13-2005, 01:08 AM
Whats up guys. I just purchased my fourth 240. I haven't even picked it up yet but I am going to this weekend. Its an S14 kouki and I paid $1600 for it and I think I can fix it with a little work. Replacement parts needed include: front bumper cover, front bumper, hood, clutch fan, radiator, a/c condensor, headlights, grill, airbags, and the frame rail which supports the radiator/condensor. It sounds like a lot but if you guys have any experience with these parts, let me know if it is gonna be a bitch or if I got a pretty good deal. Thanks. The pics are here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4526935222&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4526935222&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT
turbo2nr
02-13-2005, 01:13 AM
not bad man good luck hope it works out..
nice find
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nice find
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monooxide
02-13-2005, 01:21 AM
Why do you guys have 3 and 4 240s? Thank you from keeping a ricer from getting them but let someone who only has 1 have one DAMN!
logik23
02-13-2005, 02:58 AM
With a hit like that the frame is probably bent to shit, have fun.
D-Bo
02-13-2005, 04:05 AM
logik, i know you're sour.. but i kinda have to agree with you.. gsr2nr94, you're gonna have to find out how the frame is.. i know its gonna take a ton of work but honestly, is it worth it with a potentially bent frame??
Broke_as_****
02-13-2005, 04:42 AM
Given a unibody car, accidents do weird things. With a front hit like that I'm actually inclined to say that it's probably not that bad. The front sub frame on a 240SX is pretty much glued and spot welded onto the firewall, I doubt much force was transfered back judging by the pictures. And since the front sub frame is essentially two stamped sheet metal rails sticking off the front with the engine mount inbetween, any damage is almost certainly fixable, $1500 or less probably. The body work could easily amount to more.
GSR2NR94
02-13-2005, 12:18 PM
I agree that the frame could be bent, and no. I only have 2 240's. I said that I am on my 4th one which means I have sold the rest except for my 95 S14 base model. So this is the thing: If this car's frame is tweaked too bad, then I will swap the 5 lus, the tail lights, the wheels, and everyting else over to my 95, but if the frame is good, then it might be worth fixing and keeping. I guess Ill find out.
logik23
02-13-2005, 01:18 PM
Well for 1600$ you can't really go wrong...damn I wished I had seen that...lol
Oh and the frame is glued?
Oh and the frame is glued?
Chuki_breath
02-13-2005, 03:57 PM
uh oh you said air bags.....you dont have that type of money. If you do, its a waste.
logik23
02-13-2005, 04:09 PM
Screw the airbags, get an aftermarket steering wheel and put gauges where the passanger airbag cover was.
GSR2NR94
02-13-2005, 05:15 PM
Why are airbags a waste of money?? I could get them on ebay for cheap and they are not very hard to put in. I have put them in my GSR integra when I had it. And did you think about the part when I said I have a 95 S14 Chuki? Yea, last time I checked, I could just put them in.
logik23
02-13-2005, 06:14 PM
The 95 is a Zenki, not a Chuki.
mynismo
02-13-2005, 06:16 PM
yea screw the airbags, just get a nice aftermarket steering wheel
remember the car is obd ii..... swapping will be hard if you plan on it and live in a gay e-check state like i do :)
remember the car is obd ii..... swapping will be hard if you plan on it and live in a gay e-check state like i do :)
GSR2NR94
02-13-2005, 06:58 PM
"The 95 is a Zenki, not a Chuki."
You Fool. I was saying chuki because the persons name: Chuki breath was making a comment to me and I made one back. I wasnt calling my 95 a Chuki. What the hell would I do that for? But, I guess I can see how it sounded when I wrote it. Sorry.
You Fool. I was saying chuki because the persons name: Chuki breath was making a comment to me and I made one back. I wasnt calling my 95 a Chuki. What the hell would I do that for? But, I guess I can see how it sounded when I wrote it. Sorry.
GSR2NR94
02-13-2005, 07:00 PM
Also, why will swapping the airbags be hard? The 95 and 97 are both OBD II right? I live in Michigan. They don't check shit really.
logik23
02-13-2005, 07:01 PM
95 is OBD-I, 96+ was OBD-II
orestes
02-14-2005, 12:37 AM
man be fucking careful installing airbags is all i have to say.
logik23
02-14-2005, 12:59 AM
Just fuck'em, if you have the safety check, all they do is check if the light flashes when you start the car, something you can easily do.
Chuki_breath
02-14-2005, 02:40 PM
yea but when they see a different steering wheel and shit i hope they could put 2 and 2 together and realize. But hey whatever floats your boat. Good luck.
D-Bo
02-14-2005, 02:45 PM
they won't recognize a different steering wheel as long as its not momo or stupid shit like that
logik23
02-14-2005, 04:02 PM
Keep the stock one, put the cover back on it, they'll be none the wiser.
mynismo
02-14-2005, 04:21 PM
do you know how expensive air bags actually are?
you're much better off spending $300 on a brand new momo steering wheel.
you're much better off spending $300 on a brand new momo steering wheel.
GSR2NR94
02-14-2005, 05:20 PM
Yea but if it comes down to it, check out the prices of airbags on ebay. They are not that expensive. But anyway, back to the condition of the car... Any other opinions?
logik23
02-14-2005, 05:33 PM
Installing airbags yourself is illegal anyways.
Hit_N_Run-player
02-14-2005, 05:47 PM
chuki is a version, your a fool for saying it and we interpreted wrong lol. That is a good deal, i wish i would have found it sooner. How much do you think air bags would cost?
logik23
02-14-2005, 05:51 PM
Getting them installe dis like 3 grand, doing it any other way is illegal...so.....
D-Bo
02-14-2005, 06:03 PM
you'd probably getting away with it if you had it done illegally but you'd never be sure if they'd work properly...
logik23
02-14-2005, 09:34 PM
Airbags scare me, I mean I'm always wondering if they'll blow up in my face when I stopped at a light or something....
Hit_N_Run-player
02-14-2005, 09:38 PM
i always look at the plastic part where the airbag comes out on the steering wheel. Does that plastic place pop off and smack you in the face when the air bag comes out?? :slap:
logik23
02-14-2005, 09:45 PM
I think it's meant to blow off to the side so it just breaks your arm in 3 different places. It's the airbag that breaks your nose and gives you a concussion.
D-Bo
02-14-2005, 10:37 PM
normally they just flip up but i think some come right off and are directed to the windshield.. i'd never fuck with air bags.. too dangerous
GSR2NR94
02-17-2005, 07:53 AM
Is the title of this forum: 240SX Airbags?????
I will install them myself legal or not. I have done it before so hopefully I can do it again, or maybe I will just swap everything over to my 95.
I will install them myself legal or not. I have done it before so hopefully I can do it again, or maybe I will just swap everything over to my 95.
D-Bo
02-17-2005, 11:51 AM
just don't be surprised if one blows and breaks your face
Hit_N_Run-player
02-17-2005, 12:52 PM
then he can sell us his 240 when he is blind. I wouldnt mess around with them :2cents:
GSR2NR94
02-17-2005, 04:41 PM
Well maybe if you were smart enough to disconnect the battery so that there is no power to them and they wouldn't blow up, then you wouldn't be so afraid of them, or maybe thats just you.
logik23
02-17-2005, 05:05 PM
What if you wire then wrong and there's a short when you're driving around, call him stupid then.
travis712
02-17-2005, 06:32 PM
With your ignorance for the "locals" on this forum, I hope you install airbags, wrong.
Hit_N_Run-player
02-17-2005, 08:19 PM
just dont install em at all. Just put the cover bag in and act like they are under there? why wouldnt that work?
logik23
02-17-2005, 10:31 PM
At the safety check, they make sure the light turns on where you start the car, but it's easy to get around, just connect the light to another light that flashes at startup, they will both flash and it'll be all good.
D-Bo
02-18-2005, 02:24 PM
hit n run, the point isn't that he's trying to make it seem like they're there, if he had any common sense, he'd get them installed properly. i don't know about you but those movies with people getting in accidents without airbags kinda make me weary.. it may also be because i've seen a head on collision at 80km/h and the guy didn't have air bags.. ended up having some crazy spinal/back problems.. and it wasn't too amusing pulling him out of his car (which smelled like gasoline) and having him screaming cause his back hurt.. the girl in the passeneger seat was almost fubar..
i don't know man its up to you, maybe it takes an experience like mine to realize how much of a difference they can make..
you decide.. if you're in an accident, would you want
a) to have bumps and bruises and be saved by airbags you spent money on installing
or
b) gettin all fucked up with potential problems you may have to live with knowing that you could have avoided things by having the airbags installed properly
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i don't know man its up to you, maybe it takes an experience like mine to realize how much of a difference they can make..
you decide.. if you're in an accident, would you want
a) to have bumps and bruises and be saved by airbags you spent money on installing
or
b) gettin all fucked up with potential problems you may have to live with knowing that you could have avoided things by having the airbags installed properly
.02
logik23
02-18-2005, 04:07 PM
And if you have an accident and they find that the airbags didn't work properly because they weren't installed by a trained professional, you're fucked. but then again, don't have an accident...
theenlightement
02-18-2005, 05:30 PM
thats going take some work
Hit_N_Run-player
02-18-2005, 05:39 PM
hmmmm, i would just pay the money to have em installed properly. Is your life worth saving a bit of money on a cheap car??
logik23
02-18-2005, 05:53 PM
It's like 2-3 grand to have them installed properly.
93-240SX-COUPE
02-18-2005, 06:11 PM
Unrelated car, but my bro crashed my moms 5 series and the steering wheel, passenger, and both side airbags went off. About $17k just to get and install new airbags. The insurance company wanted to salvage the car cuz it was gonna be so much because of the airbags.
Hit_N_Run-player
02-18-2005, 06:57 PM
It's like 2-3 grand to have them installed properly.
yeah, thats why im saying either save the money and risk the chance of dying, or pay the money and be broke....oh wait, a 3rd choice, dont buy a car that needs airbags!!!
yeah, thats why im saying either save the money and risk the chance of dying, or pay the money and be broke....oh wait, a 3rd choice, dont buy a car that needs airbags!!!
logik23
02-18-2005, 07:14 PM
Dude, a car without airbags is the same as a car that has airbags that don't work!!!!!
93-240SX-COUPE
02-18-2005, 07:17 PM
But, but, but, there still air bags!!! AAggghhh some people.
mrflip69
02-19-2005, 02:42 PM
I'm pretty sure some of the later 95' models were OBDI. Anyway... air bags? Big deal.. some S13s only have auto-seat belts instead of air bags. Plenty of people who've wrecked their S13s badly have lived to tell about them on these forums... It's not a big deal, especially since you've already installed them in another car and haven't had any problems. Good luck with the project man.
Hit_N_Run-player
02-19-2005, 06:58 PM
Dude, a car without airbags is the same as a car that has airbags that don't work!!!!!
NOOOO, damn logik, your need to read something before you bitch at me. Im saying DONT BUY A CAR THAT NEEDS AIRBAGS, as in make sure the airbags that are there dont need to be replaced.
NOOOO, damn logik, your need to read something before you bitch at me. Im saying DONT BUY A CAR THAT NEEDS AIRBAGS, as in make sure the airbags that are there dont need to be replaced.
logik23
02-20-2005, 10:43 AM
Lol, ok sorry dude, must have been tired of something. And to mrflip69, all 95s were OBD-I.
slideways...
02-20-2005, 10:02 PM
all early model 95s were obd 1 but cars that were actually built in 1995 were obd 2
i laugh and laugh when i hear people who are talking about smog certs. and safety checks and stuff like that.i live in MN and they cant do shit even if you want to remove your impact bumpers or remove your cat or swap an obd 1 b16 into an obd 2 civic. the cops dont check under hoods and even if they did the only thing they can do is check to see if the motor was reported stolen. the cops dont check gas, they dont look at anything. they are bitches about exhaust noise though. a harley or muscle car or truck can get away with straight pipes and be loud as he wants to here in MN, but if an import driver has a performance exhaust and doesnt let off the gas when the cop drives past, hes gonna get hassled.
i laugh and laugh when i hear people who are talking about smog certs. and safety checks and stuff like that.i live in MN and they cant do shit even if you want to remove your impact bumpers or remove your cat or swap an obd 1 b16 into an obd 2 civic. the cops dont check under hoods and even if they did the only thing they can do is check to see if the motor was reported stolen. the cops dont check gas, they dont look at anything. they are bitches about exhaust noise though. a harley or muscle car or truck can get away with straight pipes and be loud as he wants to here in MN, but if an import driver has a performance exhaust and doesnt let off the gas when the cop drives past, hes gonna get hassled.
HermsS13
02-22-2005, 12:40 PM
Fuck s14s, s13s for life
D-Bo
02-22-2005, 12:45 PM
Woah Easy Buddy Lets Not Get Out Of Hand
HermsS13
02-22-2005, 01:26 PM
What the Fuck man stop bitching about the air bags, The kids not even driving the car hes just swaping shit to his 95 no big deal stop crying.
logik23
02-22-2005, 04:32 PM
What the Fuck man stop bitching about the air bags, The kids not even driving the car hes just swaping shit to his 95 no big deal stop crying.
Another one of them intellectuals.
Another one of them intellectuals.
D-Bo
02-22-2005, 06:55 PM
this guy is WAY too intense for me.. blowing me out of the water..
and nobody's bitching here.. its a F O R U M .. its made for discussing, giving advice and opinions, so obviously people are gonna disagree with what other people do. just like i disagree with your existance. you suck at noob
and nobody's bitching here.. its a F O R U M .. its made for discussing, giving advice and opinions, so obviously people are gonna disagree with what other people do. just like i disagree with your existance. you suck at noob
Hit_N_Run-player
02-22-2005, 10:45 PM
no, he sucks at life.....
HermsS13
02-22-2005, 11:57 PM
Ha you guys rule.
logik23
02-23-2005, 12:02 AM
Ha you guys rule.
Well he got that right! :boink:
This guy's all right :sunglasse
Well he got that right! :boink:
This guy's all right :sunglasse
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