Where to co-drive??
NB8CT
03-16-2002, 05:20 PM
Does anyone know where i can catch a ride as a co-driver. I have been reading this bad-ass book on how to navigate rallys, i wanna co-drive soooo bad.
Tom_S8
03-18-2002, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by NB8CT
Does anyone know where i can catch a ride as a co-driver. I have been reading this bad-ass book on how to navigate rallys, i wanna co-drive soooo bad.
no idea , but i had a chance to DRIVE a rally ford escort , and i was in the passenger's seat with one of the best polish rally drivers driving , i hacen't been a co-pilot at all , he knew the stage perfectly... About driving the escort , it was a bit hard to turn the enigne on (you have to turn the electronics on first , then the fuel pump , the oil has to warm up to good temperature , blah blah , blah blah , etc. before you can turn the engine on , and none of the switches has any description) Also the clutch was so hard that i have to go it full throtlle or otherwise i would have stalled... :coolguy: , anyway i didn't have any chance to tackle the corners i only drove it on the parking lot where all the cars were prepared...
Does anyone know where i can catch a ride as a co-driver. I have been reading this bad-ass book on how to navigate rallys, i wanna co-drive soooo bad.
no idea , but i had a chance to DRIVE a rally ford escort , and i was in the passenger's seat with one of the best polish rally drivers driving , i hacen't been a co-pilot at all , he knew the stage perfectly... About driving the escort , it was a bit hard to turn the enigne on (you have to turn the electronics on first , then the fuel pump , the oil has to warm up to good temperature , blah blah , blah blah , etc. before you can turn the engine on , and none of the switches has any description) Also the clutch was so hard that i have to go it full throtlle or otherwise i would have stalled... :coolguy: , anyway i didn't have any chance to tackle the corners i only drove it on the parking lot where all the cars were prepared...
Twist
03-18-2002, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by NB8CT
Does anyone know where i can catch a ride as a co-driver. I have been reading this bad-ass book on how to navigate rallys, i wanna co-drive soooo bad.
What's it called and where can I get one!? :)
Does anyone know where i can catch a ride as a co-driver. I have been reading this bad-ass book on how to navigate rallys, i wanna co-drive soooo bad.
What's it called and where can I get one!? :)
DreamsofaCobra
03-26-2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Twist
What's it called and where can I get one!? :)
Ditto, I want to start rallying in a couple years with a friend of my Co-driving, but neither of us know anything about how to learn to navigate.
"And flat right 50 minus to flat left gravel maybe And crest to down right 30" :confused:
What's it called and where can I get one!? :)
Ditto, I want to start rallying in a couple years with a friend of my Co-driving, but neither of us know anything about how to learn to navigate.
"And flat right 50 minus to flat left gravel maybe And crest to down right 30" :confused:
Twist
03-26-2002, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by DreamsofaCobra
"And flat right 50 minus to flat left gravel maybe And crest to down right 30" :confused:
My guess is that there is a turn to the right that is level 50 degrees from straight followed by a level turn to the left and then going up to a crest followed by an immediate turn to the right 30 degrees from straight. Don't forget "slippy."
The thing that throws me off is the fact that by the time the driver's taking one turn, the co-driver is reading off the next two turns. Once I think I've got it figured out, they go and do something that contradicts it all. Enlish has got to be one of the best languages to co-drive with. We can just say "left" the Spanish speakers have to say "izquierda." They have to say so many more words/syllables to equal us. Gives you a new respect for Carlos Sainz and his co-driver. :)
"And flat right 50 minus to flat left gravel maybe And crest to down right 30" :confused:
My guess is that there is a turn to the right that is level 50 degrees from straight followed by a level turn to the left and then going up to a crest followed by an immediate turn to the right 30 degrees from straight. Don't forget "slippy."
The thing that throws me off is the fact that by the time the driver's taking one turn, the co-driver is reading off the next two turns. Once I think I've got it figured out, they go and do something that contradicts it all. Enlish has got to be one of the best languages to co-drive with. We can just say "left" the Spanish speakers have to say "izquierda." They have to say so many more words/syllables to equal us. Gives you a new respect for Carlos Sainz and his co-driver. :)
NB8CT
04-28-2002, 11:32 AM
Sorry guys, meant to do this a while ago,
here is the book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/1859604005/reader/1/002-7558388-0877604#reader-link
here is the book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/1859604005/reader/1/002-7558388-0877604#reader-link
Furyous
05-07-2002, 03:21 PM
Well, if you're in the U.S. you don't need to know all that, "downhill three left minus slippy" stuff. With rare exceptions, we don't use pacenotes here. Co-driving is MUCH easier in blind (non-pacenote) rallies. Judging by some of the moron co-drivers I've seen who have never even read the rulebook, there aren't too many barriers to entry! :D
Pick an event near you, and post on the co-drivers section at specialstage.com that you're a novice looking for a ride. Download the ProRally rulebook from http://www.scca.org/amateur/performance_rally/02rulebook/ and read up on timing and control procedures so at least you'll know the basics. Your driver will tell you how he wants the routebook called anyway.
Good luck!
Jon
www.rallystuff.com
Pick an event near you, and post on the co-drivers section at specialstage.com that you're a novice looking for a ride. Download the ProRally rulebook from http://www.scca.org/amateur/performance_rally/02rulebook/ and read up on timing and control procedures so at least you'll know the basics. Your driver will tell you how he wants the routebook called anyway.
Good luck!
Jon
www.rallystuff.com
NB8CT
05-09-2002, 11:28 AM
Yea i noticed that in the coverage of the SCCA prorally, they dont have pacenotes..........why is that, I'm sure it would be much safer and the stage times would be much quicker? Sop what is the need for a co-driver anyway?
Furyous
05-09-2002, 09:48 PM
Jury's out on the safety issue. It's definitely safer on tarmac rallies, but on dirt/gravel the road conditions change much more. Pacenotes can encourage you to charge 10/10ths into a blind corner only to find mud or loose gravel. I guess if you have a car prerun for you in the morning you can figure that stuff out, but we're still very low budget compared to the WRC.
Even without pacenotes, you'll have important or dangerous turns indicated in a route book, so the co-driver keeps track of that. But, like I said, without pacenotes there's a lot less to do.
Even without pacenotes, you'll have important or dangerous turns indicated in a route book, so the co-driver keeps track of that. But, like I said, without pacenotes there's a lot less to do.
NB8CT
05-10-2002, 02:38 PM
Just hang on huh? So how long before you think we will have a WRC leg here in the states? That'll be the day:rolleyes:
Furyous
05-12-2002, 06:05 PM
Well, we sure could have used you this weekend. The Sawmill ClubRally in Morris, PA (up in the northern middle of PA) had several drivers who couldn't find co-drivers for the event. It's just a 30 mile ClubRally, but if you'd been there with a suit and a helmet you could have gone for a fun ride!
NB8CT
05-12-2002, 06:20 PM
YEA!!! That would have been sweet! But I'm here in Chicago, kinda far.....but hell lemme know about the next one and I'll see what i can do, its not THAT far...I mean comeon, I NEED TO RALLY!!!!
tecrekka
06-18-2009, 06:25 PM
There's the Rally America Sno*Drift, I think it's in Houghton, MI, but you aren't going to be able to just ride unless you are licensed. Usually if an event is sanctioned at all that is what you are going to find. Besides, if you want to go along for a ride that's one thing but if you want to co-drive you have to know what you doing. Anything less and a driver who lets you co-drive really deserves what will likely happen to his/her car. A co-driver is meant to be much more than a ballast to preload the suspension. ;)
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