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Nr1Skier
02-05-2005, 10:15 PM
Fisrt things first: If your are going to go all out JDM, why not just import yourself a Silvia S(w/e one your may prefer) for a reasonable price, and it is only $600 dollars. Get the real JDM deal (right-hand drive.)http://www.batfa.com
Secondly: People do conversions for a reason: they eigther bored with their money or they are insanely in love with the look that they want to go for. There are ones who may prefer the "old school" look and there are the ones who are into the more modern look. It is all of a matter of personal preference.
Another matter:All Silvias (all cars) come with certain engines for certain reasons. Whether is being the CA SR, or the KA, RB(taking from a Skyline), It is all up to the person and what they are willing to spend, how far they want to go, and what their purpose for it is.
Now I am not taking sides for anyone but let people go on with their matters if they ask just listen and answer. If they want to tuck some 22's onto a 240(maybe thats to far) but wanting to do S(#) onto their 240 or vise versa maybe reasonable or what ever. But people please do not kill the import scene (or what ever you are attempting to do) keep it with in the boundries because you will end up making a fool out yourself.
/l lD /l //l
Secondly: People do conversions for a reason: they eigther bored with their money or they are insanely in love with the look that they want to go for. There are ones who may prefer the "old school" look and there are the ones who are into the more modern look. It is all of a matter of personal preference.
Another matter:All Silvias (all cars) come with certain engines for certain reasons. Whether is being the CA SR, or the KA, RB(taking from a Skyline), It is all up to the person and what they are willing to spend, how far they want to go, and what their purpose for it is.
Now I am not taking sides for anyone but let people go on with their matters if they ask just listen and answer. If they want to tuck some 22's onto a 240(maybe thats to far) but wanting to do S(#) onto their 240 or vise versa maybe reasonable or what ever. But people please do not kill the import scene (or what ever you are attempting to do) keep it with in the boundries because you will end up making a fool out yourself.
/l lD /l //l
sRscooby
02-05-2005, 10:28 PM
hmmm
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logik23
02-05-2005, 11:08 PM
What the fuck was that? And what's 600$?
Nr1Skier
02-05-2005, 11:39 PM
AIght $600 to import (minor typo)
nissanfanatic
02-06-2005, 12:11 AM
So $600+MSRP of car=you have a silvia? F*** that.
Tims_240
02-06-2005, 12:13 AM
no like, what was that as in, where the hell did that come from?
Hit_N_Run-player
02-06-2005, 01:38 AM
ummmm, considering the fact that its not F*CKING LEGAL TO HAVE RHD, then i dont really see the point of this?
orestes
02-06-2005, 01:47 AM
its legal to have RHD.....
Hit_N_Run-player
02-06-2005, 01:56 AM
how so? wouldnt it be only for show? if so, then what restricts all these other JDM cars from the US? maybe im wrong, but im just taking a guess....and whats the purpose of this thread?
orestes
02-06-2005, 02:03 AM
a jdm car would be illegal because it would have never been US government DOT approved, not because you drive from the right side of the car.
well shit actually i dont know for a fact that RHD is not illegal, im just basing it on the fact that i have seen two RHD ITR's, so im assuming they were legal because people would be damn stupid to do something so blatantly illegal and expensive, just asking to get their shit impounded. so yeah im pretty sure its legal. yeah and i was shitting myself seeing a RHD ITR mobbin around in my school parking lot.
well shit actually i dont know for a fact that RHD is not illegal, im just basing it on the fact that i have seen two RHD ITR's, so im assuming they were legal because people would be damn stupid to do something so blatantly illegal and expensive, just asking to get their shit impounded. so yeah im pretty sure its legal. yeah and i was shitting myself seeing a RHD ITR mobbin around in my school parking lot.
logik23
02-06-2005, 02:07 AM
A DC2 or DC5??
orestes
02-06-2005, 02:34 AM
DC2, ive seen a white one and a black one RHD around here. fu*kin sick man... anyways what the hell is this crackhead Nr1skier talking about?
logik23
02-06-2005, 02:42 AM
He's complaining about how he can't get his thumb out of his ass...I guess sticking it up there wasn't the best of ideas....
sidewayzS13
02-06-2005, 12:50 PM
was there any point to this thread cause so far i think ive gotten dumber by reading what Nr1 had to say
AWDSR20
02-06-2005, 12:51 PM
Now I am not taking sides for anyone but let people go on with their matters if they ask just listen and answer. If they want to tuck some 22's onto a 240(maybe thats to far) but wanting to do S(#) onto their 240 or vise versa maybe reasonable or what ever. But people please do not kill the import scene (or what ever you are attempting to do) keep it with in the boundries because you will end up making a fool out yourself.
uuuh....
You’re trying to be a wiseass? U have some free time so u though it a good idea to drop in a complete nonsense in our forum?
Look at what u typed… “keep it with in the boundaries because you will end up making a fool out yourself.” It would be good if u establish that “boundaries” so we can agree or disagree with u .
U stated in general what people do to cars, “If they want to tuck some 22's onto a 240(maybe that’s to far) but wanting to do S(#) onto their 240 or vise versa maybe reasonable or what ever.” WTF is that? You have no point, state noting and take no side.
Why did u post? What is your point?
“Now I am not taking sides for anyone but let people go on with their matters if they ask just listen and answer.” That was the most confusing statement I ever read…
Anyways, hope u comeback and explain yourself….
uuuh....
You’re trying to be a wiseass? U have some free time so u though it a good idea to drop in a complete nonsense in our forum?
Look at what u typed… “keep it with in the boundaries because you will end up making a fool out yourself.” It would be good if u establish that “boundaries” so we can agree or disagree with u .
U stated in general what people do to cars, “If they want to tuck some 22's onto a 240(maybe that’s to far) but wanting to do S(#) onto their 240 or vise versa maybe reasonable or what ever.” WTF is that? You have no point, state noting and take no side.
Why did u post? What is your point?
“Now I am not taking sides for anyone but let people go on with their matters if they ask just listen and answer.” That was the most confusing statement I ever read…
Anyways, hope u comeback and explain yourself….
D-Bo
02-06-2005, 01:23 PM
it seems to me like he's telling all of us not to ruin the import scene with the dubs we all have on our 240s.. so everybody be careful of that.. :gay:
so nr1, when did ANYBODY say ANYTHING about going all jdm or not?? that was a stupid comment..
secondly, nobody has any problems with people doing conversions.. thats the beauty of the 240/silvia.. you're basically saying people are arguing about something when they're clearly not.. another stupid comment..
for the engines, nobody said anything to deserve a comment you made.. the sr vs ka is a very legitimate argument and nobody seriously flames anybody else about wanting either one (except for sr20detpower who seriously doesn't like the sr but thats ok, we'll respect that).. so why are you saying there's an argument about engines when there really isnt' one??
finally, this is probably the LAST place you'll see people ruining the import scene with bling bling and dubs on their 240s.. we mostly talk about engine performance and speed.. no more than 10% of the threads here are about body kits and bling bling rims and ricer shit like that.. why are you accusing us of this?? a VERY stupid comment on your part..
i don't know what you're trying to prove but everything you posted is absolutely 100% irrelevant and are not issues with us. so do us a favor and don't rice this forum up.
end of rant
so nr1, when did ANYBODY say ANYTHING about going all jdm or not?? that was a stupid comment..
secondly, nobody has any problems with people doing conversions.. thats the beauty of the 240/silvia.. you're basically saying people are arguing about something when they're clearly not.. another stupid comment..
for the engines, nobody said anything to deserve a comment you made.. the sr vs ka is a very legitimate argument and nobody seriously flames anybody else about wanting either one (except for sr20detpower who seriously doesn't like the sr but thats ok, we'll respect that).. so why are you saying there's an argument about engines when there really isnt' one??
finally, this is probably the LAST place you'll see people ruining the import scene with bling bling and dubs on their 240s.. we mostly talk about engine performance and speed.. no more than 10% of the threads here are about body kits and bling bling rims and ricer shit like that.. why are you accusing us of this?? a VERY stupid comment on your part..
i don't know what you're trying to prove but everything you posted is absolutely 100% irrelevant and are not issues with us. so do us a favor and don't rice this forum up.
end of rant
SHIFT_KA24DE
02-06-2005, 02:03 PM
haha wtf... it's posts like these that make this forum look stupid...
btw it's not easy legalizing RHD vehicles in the United States. It'll cost you the same, if not more, than the car you actually purchased from Japan...
Most imported vehicles are subjected to U.S. safety standards, bumper standards, and air pollution control (emission standards). Some things include replacing your GT-R's exhaust system and even the windshield since it needs to be rubber coated. Older JDM cars don't have the collision shatter-proof windows and good luck finding a windshield sold in the US that'll fit a skyline. In this case, you would have to have it custom made in Japan.
Some documents you need prior to legalizing your car... shipper's original bill of lading, bill of sale, foreign registration, written prior approval form from the Environmental Protection Agency (which will be needed for the Customs inspection at the port of entry). result: $$$
You also need to clean the undercarriage due to importation of dangerous pests... this is imposed by the US department of agriculture. ( you would need it to be steam-sprayed and cleaned throughly BEFORE shipment, which means in Japan) result: more $$$
Imported vehicles, used or new, have dutiable rates... and for cars it's 2.5%. If it's imported for personal use, you also need to pay $400 Customs exemption for your vehicle. results: even more $$$
If you try and import your vehicle for taking part in races or other specific purposes, you still need the written approval of the EPA and it cannot be used on streets and highways. Also the car is only allowed to stay on the US soil for 90 days, if not, it will be confiscated.
Any vehicle not older than 25 years will need to go through DOT inspection which includes, motor vehicle standards that were in effect during the period of manufacture. They require the Original manufacturer to affix a label to the vehicle that confirms the fact that it's applicable to safety and bumper standards. In most cases, this is impossible since JDM nissan cars are NOT made for the US. hence, you must enter the "nonconformed vehicle" under a DOT bond for 1.5 times the vehicles dutiable value (additional money to the original value). results: even more $$$$
You, or the importer, must also sign a contract with a DOT registered importer (RI), who can verify the vehicle has been modified to meet US standards (good luck finding him). This copy must be presented when the car is at the port of entry. DOT also required vehicles make, model and year verified to be eligible for importation. If it's not eligible by the RI you can submit a petition in your behalf to have your vehicle 'considered' for eligibility, if you want to still try that is. But keep in mind, filling for a petitions require more fees. results: even more and more $$$
since japan never regulated emissions as much as the US, you will be subjected to "gas-guzzler" tax, which is based on combined urban/highway fuel-economy rating assigned by they EPA. more $$$
emission standards require the modification of O2 sensors and catalytic converters... if not you need to have the Independent Commercial Importer bring the car in for you.. in which most cases.. they wouldn't give a sh!t about what you want so you won't get it that way either.
A foreign car can be made conditionally admitted, but the modifications required for compliance are very extensive and impractical.. hence, the DOT doesn't insist on importing vehicles in the first place. Having them working Against your favor will make petitions and processes much much harder.
Also imported cars need the International Registration Marker. You need to get this from an international automobile federation or your local automobile departments.
Keep in mind there are other regulations you must follow depending on what state you live in since each state has it's own restrictions for imported vehicles... Then maybe after all that (which will take over an year to do) you will have your car. At that point you wouldn't be able to modify your car extensively since there are strict regulations you must meet at each modification. That is, if you even have money left to do so...
hahaa... jus a quick 2 cents...
btw it's not easy legalizing RHD vehicles in the United States. It'll cost you the same, if not more, than the car you actually purchased from Japan...
Most imported vehicles are subjected to U.S. safety standards, bumper standards, and air pollution control (emission standards). Some things include replacing your GT-R's exhaust system and even the windshield since it needs to be rubber coated. Older JDM cars don't have the collision shatter-proof windows and good luck finding a windshield sold in the US that'll fit a skyline. In this case, you would have to have it custom made in Japan.
Some documents you need prior to legalizing your car... shipper's original bill of lading, bill of sale, foreign registration, written prior approval form from the Environmental Protection Agency (which will be needed for the Customs inspection at the port of entry). result: $$$
You also need to clean the undercarriage due to importation of dangerous pests... this is imposed by the US department of agriculture. ( you would need it to be steam-sprayed and cleaned throughly BEFORE shipment, which means in Japan) result: more $$$
Imported vehicles, used or new, have dutiable rates... and for cars it's 2.5%. If it's imported for personal use, you also need to pay $400 Customs exemption for your vehicle. results: even more $$$
If you try and import your vehicle for taking part in races or other specific purposes, you still need the written approval of the EPA and it cannot be used on streets and highways. Also the car is only allowed to stay on the US soil for 90 days, if not, it will be confiscated.
Any vehicle not older than 25 years will need to go through DOT inspection which includes, motor vehicle standards that were in effect during the period of manufacture. They require the Original manufacturer to affix a label to the vehicle that confirms the fact that it's applicable to safety and bumper standards. In most cases, this is impossible since JDM nissan cars are NOT made for the US. hence, you must enter the "nonconformed vehicle" under a DOT bond for 1.5 times the vehicles dutiable value (additional money to the original value). results: even more $$$$
You, or the importer, must also sign a contract with a DOT registered importer (RI), who can verify the vehicle has been modified to meet US standards (good luck finding him). This copy must be presented when the car is at the port of entry. DOT also required vehicles make, model and year verified to be eligible for importation. If it's not eligible by the RI you can submit a petition in your behalf to have your vehicle 'considered' for eligibility, if you want to still try that is. But keep in mind, filling for a petitions require more fees. results: even more and more $$$
since japan never regulated emissions as much as the US, you will be subjected to "gas-guzzler" tax, which is based on combined urban/highway fuel-economy rating assigned by they EPA. more $$$
emission standards require the modification of O2 sensors and catalytic converters... if not you need to have the Independent Commercial Importer bring the car in for you.. in which most cases.. they wouldn't give a sh!t about what you want so you won't get it that way either.
A foreign car can be made conditionally admitted, but the modifications required for compliance are very extensive and impractical.. hence, the DOT doesn't insist on importing vehicles in the first place. Having them working Against your favor will make petitions and processes much much harder.
Also imported cars need the International Registration Marker. You need to get this from an international automobile federation or your local automobile departments.
Keep in mind there are other regulations you must follow depending on what state you live in since each state has it's own restrictions for imported vehicles... Then maybe after all that (which will take over an year to do) you will have your car. At that point you wouldn't be able to modify your car extensively since there are strict regulations you must meet at each modification. That is, if you even have money left to do so...
hahaa... jus a quick 2 cents...
R.W.240
02-06-2005, 04:31 PM
Blah Blah Blah I'll Bring up something completely irelevant Blah Blah Blah
Blah Blah Blah I suck at life and the internet Blah Blah Blah
Blah Blah Blah I think I know what the fuck Im talking about and these noobs will bow to me Blah Blah Blah
Nr1Skier = :gay:
Everyone Else and their 1337 ideas on how to import a car = :gay:
Blah Blah Blah I suck at life and the internet Blah Blah Blah
Blah Blah Blah I think I know what the fuck Im talking about and these noobs will bow to me Blah Blah Blah
Nr1Skier = :gay:
Everyone Else and their 1337 ideas on how to import a car = :gay:
Chuki_breath
02-06-2005, 08:17 PM
wow lol im totally confused. I'm so confused i dont know what to type?? do i agree or not agree, wait i dont even know what im agreeing too!!! so for the time being ill just add 1 post to my post count?? And o yea iv got some 20 inch spinners on the way. That way when im done doing a drift it will still look like i am drifting, hence it will confuse the judges then i will be the top drifter in the universe. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAAHa
john.doe
02-07-2005, 12:13 AM
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING illegal about RHD. There is ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING illegal about a Silvia. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what side the steering wheel is on.
monooxide
02-07-2005, 12:54 AM
Wow, thanks for clearing that up mysterious man named John Doe...I can now go respectively to my bed and enjoy a nice sleep session... Anyways...I think i need to come out of the closet about my conversion im gonna do here in like a week
................can you guess what its going to be?..............
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A 1996 Civic CONVERSION! Head lights and tailights on my COUPE BABY! HECKS YEA AND THE TYPE-R SPOILER AND THE MUGEN OIL CAP MAN THERS ABOUT 20HP there... ok back to illegal and not too illegal S15s!
................can you guess what its going to be?..............
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A 1996 Civic CONVERSION! Head lights and tailights on my COUPE BABY! HECKS YEA AND THE TYPE-R SPOILER AND THE MUGEN OIL CAP MAN THERS ABOUT 20HP there... ok back to illegal and not too illegal S15s!
sidewayzS13
02-07-2005, 11:26 AM
gosh guys what the hell r we thinking we r going to single handedly ruin the import scene w/ our beat to hell cars that we love and cherish. and after we ruin the import scene we r going be the downfall of western civilization as we know it
drumpet15
02-07-2005, 01:22 PM
This thread is stupid...
Is everyone about done ranting and raving? This is your last chance to flame! :) Don't miss this wonderful opportunity!
Is everyone about done ranting and raving? This is your last chance to flame! :) Don't miss this wonderful opportunity!
D-Bo
02-07-2005, 02:55 PM
haha no offense, but another quality post by drumpet
Hit_N_Run-player
02-07-2005, 05:39 PM
this thread is worth as much as a :2cents: whore....
drumpet15
02-08-2005, 01:10 PM
haha no offense, but another quality post by drumpet
What's that supposed to mean, d-bo!?
What's that supposed to mean, d-bo!?
D-Bo
02-08-2005, 04:26 PM
i'm not gonna lie to you.. pretty much all of your posts are "i agree" "haha seriously" "what he ^ said".. i was lookin at your post history and thats all you say.. i haven't seen any real meaningful input from you.. thats all i meant.. don't take it personally, just throw some advice in here and there instead of simply saying you agree
logik23
02-08-2005, 04:28 PM
What ^ said!!!!
D-Bo
02-08-2005, 04:38 PM
hahah seriously
drumpet15
02-09-2005, 01:57 PM
I come to these forums to learn about stuff. I don't know a lot about these cars yet, so that's why I'm here! So I'm sorry if I don't post my opinion before other people post theirs. Often times I do think of something to say, but by the time I get to the last page, 3 people have said it already! I'm just not on my computer enough to keep up with all these threads...
D-Bo
02-09-2005, 02:02 PM
thats cool.. wouldn't hurt to add in a little extra though.. time will help, no biggie
drumpet15
02-09-2005, 02:10 PM
I know, dude. And honestly you and logik have some great info. I am learning a lot, but it takes awhile.
Hit_N_Run-player
02-09-2005, 06:22 PM
logik is like a bomb sometimes (me saying this isnt smart), but sometimes he'll randomly explode on the newb that joined and asked some dumb question. Its quite funny, then again i was that newb onetime also.lol
D-Bo
02-09-2005, 09:52 PM
we all were.. its interesting to see everybody's first few posts..
logik23
02-09-2005, 10:45 PM
Yeah, I had the worst questions, I once asked what part of the 240 was the ODB-II and could I get an aftermarket one that ran faster......so lame....but anyways, drumpet, it's just funny when you post that you agree, not bad or anything, but like D-Bo said, add a little, you've been here long enough so that we won't tear you a new one if you fuck up, we'll just correct you, it's no biggie
drumpet15
02-10-2005, 02:48 AM
Cool, thanks guys! :) I am learning some stuff...but there's a lot of stuff to learn!
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