Replica
Carboncharlie
02-05-2005, 09:20 PM
Who has the best F1 replica?
freakray
02-05-2005, 09:25 PM
Do you mean in scale?
Carboncharlie
02-05-2005, 09:27 PM
Scale
Carboncharlie
02-05-2005, 09:31 PM
Do you mean in scale?1:1
Thorst13
02-07-2005, 04:47 PM
Good Luck....
Dreamspawn
02-10-2005, 04:00 PM
There was a guy online who had a BIG a** PDF bough how he built his. He started from scratch though. The only McLarens i know u can get replica of easily are the Can Am cars. Try Kitcars.com and places like that.
Thorst13
02-10-2005, 05:29 PM
Good Luck...
Powerhousesports
03-11-2005, 11:15 AM
www.powerhousesports.net
A new Mclaren-esque replica coming to market
A new Mclaren-esque replica coming to market
ArchangelGTR
03-11-2005, 11:31 AM
www.powerhousesports.net
A new Mclaren-esque replica coming to market
Not quite. :grinno: The SP series from the drawings have a sort of Enzo, McLaren, Fiero look to them. But I do like the picture of the grey one on the intro page.
http://www.powerhousesports.net/images/index_01.gif
You have my interest piqued. MR2 based? Interesting. Would be curious about the specs on it.
The one thing I hate about full size replicas.. is that you will always compare it to the original.. and it always fails to compare. :banghead:
But an original idea like the grey one on the intro page, should definitely generate interest. Good luck with it!
Regards
OK Just saw the pics at DDRMotorsport.com .. a lot of McLaren copying going on. DDR Motorsport Pics (http://www.ddrmotorsport.com/new_pic.html)
Build Steps (http://www.ddrmotorsport.com/process.html)
http://www.ddrmotorsport.com/images/A%20183%20painted.jpg
A new Mclaren-esque replica coming to market
Not quite. :grinno: The SP series from the drawings have a sort of Enzo, McLaren, Fiero look to them. But I do like the picture of the grey one on the intro page.
http://www.powerhousesports.net/images/index_01.gif
You have my interest piqued. MR2 based? Interesting. Would be curious about the specs on it.
The one thing I hate about full size replicas.. is that you will always compare it to the original.. and it always fails to compare. :banghead:
But an original idea like the grey one on the intro page, should definitely generate interest. Good luck with it!
Regards
OK Just saw the pics at DDRMotorsport.com .. a lot of McLaren copying going on. DDR Motorsport Pics (http://www.ddrmotorsport.com/new_pic.html)
Build Steps (http://www.ddrmotorsport.com/process.html)
http://www.ddrmotorsport.com/images/A%20183%20painted.jpg
Dreamspawn
03-11-2005, 01:45 PM
MR2 based kit cars are good not as good as tube chassies but good. I agreed bout making a kit off a real car they can't compare but u can go orginal and so somthing to make it stand out. Like on kitcars.com there was a guy that had a diablo kit and had a murc. front bumper. If the car is light enought the stock 3S-GTE could defintly push the car.Also have u all checked out the Factory Five Racing orginal kit car? GTM somthing.
ArchangelGTR
03-11-2005, 04:17 PM
According to their website.. it's a tube chassis using the MR2 for inspiration and motor. If it's small and light enough.. it should be interesting. Pricing to be around $30K - $40K.
amanichen
03-11-2005, 04:36 PM
While I'll probably get flamed for this...
What's the point of making a replica?
There'll be nothing about it in common with the F1, other than the looks.
It won't give you the same driving experience and luxury that a real F1 will. You're just better off buying a real sports car with the money you'd spend building/buying a replica.
What's the point of making a replica?
There'll be nothing about it in common with the F1, other than the looks.
It won't give you the same driving experience and luxury that a real F1 will. You're just better off buying a real sports car with the money you'd spend building/buying a replica.
Dreamspawn
03-11-2005, 10:47 PM
Most build like to build replicas/orginals because its one thing to drive a car you bought but what bout a car u built. Like my dad has owned like 6-7 motorcycles in his life never really cared to get rid of them but when he buitl his first chopper from the ground up he loves it and wont give it up. I guess it is mostley to pride in knowing you built somthing it has part of you in it. Your blood,sweat,and time. As for a driving expierence there is a company i thought buying a lambo diablo replica off of once i did the math on the power to weight ratio. I found out the car could run with the real car for alot less. I'll post up my link later to that.
amanichen
03-12-2005, 12:24 PM
Was the chopper a replica? There's a difference between making your own vehicle, and making one that looks like a well known vehicle.
Sure, you can build your own car that has 80% of the performance of a lamborghini for 10% of the price, but the looks of it have nothing to do with the performance. Making it look like a lamborghini has nothigng to do with it performing like a lamborghini (don't nitpick over aerodynamics.)
My point is that if you're going to try to make a replica, you want to try to make it 100% like the original car. There's some classic cars which have replicas...Shelby mustangs and GT40s are among the most common examples of this. These are fairly accurate to the original vehicles, because it's easy to take 1960s and 1970s technology and build it in your own spare time.
The problem is that most replicas of supercars aren't anywhere near the original car. What's the difference between building your own fast car, and putting a unique body on it, as opposed to putting a McLaren-esque F1 body on it? In neither case do you get an accurate reproduction of what it's like to drive the car.
The McLaren F1 is more than just a powerful engine with a light chassis. Building your own car with a light chassis and a powerful engine won't necessarily reproduce the feeling of driving an F1. And certainly neither will a vehicle with a similar-looking body shell.
Sure, you can build your own car that has 80% of the performance of a lamborghini for 10% of the price, but the looks of it have nothing to do with the performance. Making it look like a lamborghini has nothigng to do with it performing like a lamborghini (don't nitpick over aerodynamics.)
My point is that if you're going to try to make a replica, you want to try to make it 100% like the original car. There's some classic cars which have replicas...Shelby mustangs and GT40s are among the most common examples of this. These are fairly accurate to the original vehicles, because it's easy to take 1960s and 1970s technology and build it in your own spare time.
The problem is that most replicas of supercars aren't anywhere near the original car. What's the difference between building your own fast car, and putting a unique body on it, as opposed to putting a McLaren-esque F1 body on it? In neither case do you get an accurate reproduction of what it's like to drive the car.
The McLaren F1 is more than just a powerful engine with a light chassis. Building your own car with a light chassis and a powerful engine won't necessarily reproduce the feeling of driving an F1. And certainly neither will a vehicle with a similar-looking body shell.
F1 monster
03-12-2005, 01:09 PM
You are almost right. Except that with an Ultima chassis and decent motor, you can get close to the feel of the handling, especially if you adjust the suspension to make it a bit soft and toe the wheels out (I think it's out, not sure) so that there is plenty of understeer.
The feeling is best approximated if you keep in low gear, in the torque band, and dart into a corner and try to make the car go around the corner while feeding it more gas without meddling with the clutch/gearshift.
It's a lightweight, tossable package, but it's different from the Lotus Elise because of the huge amounts of very controllable power that an Elise can't replicate.
I do agree with your comments about replicas in general. But I guess it works for some people.
The feeling is best approximated if you keep in low gear, in the torque band, and dart into a corner and try to make the car go around the corner while feeding it more gas without meddling with the clutch/gearshift.
It's a lightweight, tossable package, but it's different from the Lotus Elise because of the huge amounts of very controllable power that an Elise can't replicate.
I do agree with your comments about replicas in general. But I guess it works for some people.
amanichen
03-12-2005, 01:14 PM
You are almost right. Except that with an Ultima chassis and decent motor, you can get close to the feel of the handling, ...
I do agree with your comments about replicas in general. But I guess it works for some people.You could get close becuase you bought at car that was made for performance =)
My point is that you can't replicate a carbon fiber chassis, aluminum suspension arms, high performance tires, and a V12 engine that has a separate throttle body for each cylinder in your garage. That's some serious engineering that needs to go on there =)
If you want a sports car, you're better off buying one (or a kit car like the Ultima.)
I do agree with your comments about replicas in general. But I guess it works for some people.You could get close becuase you bought at car that was made for performance =)
My point is that you can't replicate a carbon fiber chassis, aluminum suspension arms, high performance tires, and a V12 engine that has a separate throttle body for each cylinder in your garage. That's some serious engineering that needs to go on there =)
If you want a sports car, you're better off buying one (or a kit car like the Ultima.)
Dreamspawn
03-12-2005, 01:47 PM
No it wasn't a replica it was a orginal but still my point is that alot of ppl like knowing that somthing they are driving is somthing they assembled or built. I guess alot of ppl just have pride in the car cause like i said part of them is in it. Sure your not going to break ne speed records like the orginal f1 you probably wont' put a v12 in it. Btw you forgot bout the attack its a nice little orginal kit.
Mclaren240!
03-12-2005, 03:19 PM
What about the saftey implications of a replica not just the odvious but untested aerodynamics as speed....
Dreamspawn
03-12-2005, 03:46 PM
Saftey implactions i have no clue i don't believe the bodies get tested since most are just fiber glass that goes over or takes place of orginal body panels. As for speed most replica places dont' intended for there cars to break like 150 save for ultima who has there own wind tunnel and tests all the time. They compete in a UK racing series though.
Mclaren240!
03-12-2005, 06:50 PM
You can buy an ultima not just make one so its only sought of a kit car. The make it yourself kind seam scarey ever 150 cold be bad with the rong aero package and as for nothing but fiberglass protecting you! It all depends how well these things are done some "custom" cars i would be perfictly hapy to drive even thou in essance they are not to removed from kits something made out of plywood and tupperware well err.....
ArchangelGTR
04-29-2005, 11:48 AM
Just saw pics of the completed DDR replica. Very very McLaren-ish.
http://www.onclickpix.com/23348
http://www.onclickpix.com/23349
http://www.onclickpix.com/23350
http://www.onclickpix.com/23351
http://www.onclickpix.com/23352
http://www.onclickpix.com/23353
http://www.onclickpix.com/23354
Seems like they need more work on the windows and headlamps.
http://www.onclickpix.com/23348
http://www.onclickpix.com/23349
http://www.onclickpix.com/23350
http://www.onclickpix.com/23351
http://www.onclickpix.com/23352
http://www.onclickpix.com/23353
http://www.onclickpix.com/23354
Seems like they need more work on the windows and headlamps.
F1 monster
04-29-2005, 12:12 PM
Bizarre. It's quite close to the F1 in many places.
There's another F1 replica being built in England. It will have a BMW 850 V12 motor, and the body will be identical to a real F1. I heard about it two years ago, and at that time I saw a picture of a body in primer. The guy who told me this used to work for the Harrods team. I haven't heard anything since, so I don't know if it's still moving forward. He had said that it would be tested at some track after it was complete. Obviously that hasn't happened, so it might have been abandoned by now. I hope it's just the typical delays that such "side" projects experience. They always seem to take years.
I have also heard of a similar replica that was built in South Africa, but I don't know if this is true. Anyone have info?
There's another F1 replica being built in England. It will have a BMW 850 V12 motor, and the body will be identical to a real F1. I heard about it two years ago, and at that time I saw a picture of a body in primer. The guy who told me this used to work for the Harrods team. I haven't heard anything since, so I don't know if it's still moving forward. He had said that it would be tested at some track after it was complete. Obviously that hasn't happened, so it might have been abandoned by now. I hope it's just the typical delays that such "side" projects experience. They always seem to take years.
I have also heard of a similar replica that was built in South Africa, but I don't know if this is true. Anyone have info?
amanichen
04-29-2005, 12:20 PM
http://www.ddrmotorsport.com/about.html
He then decided on a general look and style of the design and started the building process. The silhouette of the car is inspired on the most popular GT cars of today, cars like the Porsche GT1, Jaguar XJ220, Ford GT90 prototype, Porsche 962, etc.
*cough* I think they mean a close copy of the McLaren F1 *cough*
Does this irritate anybody else?
He then decided on a general look and style of the design and started the building process. The silhouette of the car is inspired on the most popular GT cars of today, cars like the Porsche GT1, Jaguar XJ220, Ford GT90 prototype, Porsche 962, etc.
*cough* I think they mean a close copy of the McLaren F1 *cough*
Does this irritate anybody else?
Dreamspawn
04-29-2005, 12:31 PM
Cand sombody tell me where the HELL do they see Xj220,GT90? I guess u can say the GT1 with the roof scoop and the 962 in the tail lights? but thats bout it. Nice mclaren clone but to me it seems to short. Kinda like the diablo, countach replica's on none streached frames.
Mclaren240!
04-29-2005, 01:18 PM
Its not to Mc F1 but there certainly coles 220 year right i see it they both have wheels. Imitatin is the sincerist form of flattery....
Edit hang on a minute have they made there own wing mirrors......
Edit hang on a minute have they made there own wing mirrors......
Peloton25
04-29-2005, 01:37 PM
Edit hang on a minute have they made there own wing mirrors......
If I were a betting man, I'd say the mirrors came off of a 3rd Gen RX-7.
>8^)
ER
If I were a betting man, I'd say the mirrors came off of a 3rd Gen RX-7.
>8^)
ER
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