whats better, a LT1, LS1, 350 HO or 383

which one would be the best bang for the buck. i want lots of power and it to be quick. i also would like one with the easiest mods to make, and if it will fit in a 91 rs camaro.

What do you have in there right now?

What do you have in there right now?
lol a v-6, not quick at allll

I would go with a 350 TPI or LT1 cause the LS1 will cost you your first born but just check out www.car-parts.com (http://www.car-parts.com/) or Ebay. I am sure you will be able to find something. Don't forget about tranny and PCM.

I would go with a 350 TPI or LT1 cause the LS1 will cost you your first born but just check out www.car-parts.com (http://www.car-parts.com/) or Ebay. I am sure you will be able to find something. Don't forget about tranny and PCM.
can u shoot me some ideas or a tranny and PCM? i am also going to be taking an engine rebuild class and i will be bale to rebuild a used one, u thinki could get a pretty cheap one and rebuild it with all the upgraded parts like heads and cam and all that stuff. and do u know price ranges for used LT1s or 350's?

LT1's are definately the best :licka:

LG4 is the best...........j/k

LG4 is the best...........j/k
so what do u guys think, LT1 or 350 TPI?

Both are great power to cost engine but I would try to find a donor car cause your probably going to be needing quite a few parts off the car. Infact tho. Depending what area your in I know lotus is selling his car that was in a accident for 2K and its the complete car. He located in CT though. Its a LT1 with a 6 speed I think may have a auto

John

Both are great power to cost engine but I would try to find a donor car cause your probably going to be needing quite a few parts off the car. Infact tho. Depending what area your in I know lotus is selling his car that was in a accident for 2K and its the complete car. He located in CT though. Its a LT1 with a 6 speed I think may have a auto

John
alright, thanks a lot. i dunno where CT is, im prolly just being dumb, but i live in MN, so maybe i can go to a slavage yard or somthing and pick somthing up. that sounds like a sweet deal tho.

An easier route, and easier to mod, would be a 350 with an Lt1 intake running off the TPI harness and ECM. This would get you the best of both worlds, the desireable LT1 intake system and the easy to program ECM/chips. I work with a guy that sells the LT1 intakes already modded for use on the standard 350 engine, he also sells the complete set up for installing it.
His web site is here: http://lt1intake.com/services.htm

i figured this one would spark more of a debate. in terms of sheer efficiency and power potential: the LS1 cant be beat. im sorry LT1 guys but you have to face facts, the LS1 is the greatest SB development prolly ever. in terms of cost to build up and other more real world factors prolly the LT1...

i figured this one would spark more of a debate. in terms of sheer efficiency and power potential: the LS1 cant be beat. im sorry LT1 guys but you have to face facts, the LS1 is the greatest SB development prolly ever. in terms of cost to build up and other more real world factors prolly the LT1...
Was that a joke at the LT1 & TPI guys expense and I just missed it?. Well I will respond regardless. LS1 is the N/A king. It can make the most power with the smallest investment. Having said this the cost of getting a LS1 Vs getting a LT1 or TPI powertrain or better yet getting it to fit correctly in a 3rd Gen Vs the performance difference you will find that the LS1 just isn't a wise choice and if later on he decides he wants to add a power adder the LS1 is much more PSI limited than either of the 2 options but this is just my :2cents:, Take it as you will.

John

Im gonna go ahead and choose the lesser traveled path Take your 350TPI and stroke it to a 383.. With the right parts, and you doing the work, it should cost less than the LT1 swap, be less work, and make more power

:iagree: That would be badass. I always see carb'd 383's, and injected 350 TPI's(obviously, its TPI), but I have never seen a 383 with TPI. It should be fairly inexpensive, and fairly unique...now I want one! :mad:

it was my idea! if you want it your gonna have to buy it off me

Damn Demon, don't patent the 383 TPI on me!:chair:

Damn Demon, don't patent the 383 TPI on me!:chair:

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Ls-1 :boink:

LS1 :evillol:

it seems with my ls-1 i average 29-30 mpg so it makes a good daily driver. but ls-1 aftermarket performance can be costly but im a miser so i dont care.

wtf 29-30mpg out of an ls1?

yup, not at all uncommon. some Z06's knock down 32 with calm driving on the highway. its called combustion efficiency ladies and gents.

Yes the LS1 is a powerful and efficient engine indeed, but as was mentioned before, Is not an economical choice for swapping into a third gen.. Although anyone who accomplished it would definatly have my respects, I think an idea like that would be best left to a show car..

The reason I suggested a stroked 383 is because thats what I plan on doing with my Z when I get some cash together.. Then, You could do all the research and work, and let me know how it goes?

And he didnt say ANYTHING about efficiency! :D

Turbocharged LS1's!

logically for that year car the same as mine the TPI 383 would be killer. I've seen a 355tpi but not a 383tpi and i've only seen one ls1 swap into that year. fbodymotorsports did it as like a promotion for there kit.

From what I have read/seen/heard, the fastest N/A fbody is actually an LT1 (~9.52@142mph) with the LS1 not far behind (~9.71@139)... The opposites is true for power adder engines... I believe the fastest forced induction fbody is an LS1 (~8.52@163mph) with the LT1 not far behind (~8.96@154mph)...


I think either way you slice it, you are going to find that both will end up in about the same power bracket once you've taken them to their respective limits, the trick is figuring out which one will make the most power for what YOU are willing to spend...

The LS1 out of the box will straight up own an LT1... hands down... both engines react well to modifications, but at times the LS1 mods can be more pricey... However, when compared to SBC parts, the LT1's parts are quite pricy too...

a 383 SBC should be able to handle either a stock LS1 or LT1 as long as it is set up properly, but a fully 383 SBC build is not cheap either...


I think you'll be happy regardless of which way you go, so probably find what is easiest and works best for you car, and go with that... :)

-Garrett

3.8L > all

At least you have good humor about it 97. :lol:

Anyone watch American Hot Rod? If so, you probably saw the latest episode which is a '63 Stingray. The motor that is being made for it is a 434 all aluminum small block with twin turbos and fuel injection. It made nearly 700 hp....without boost! With the 25 lbs of boost they are estimating it at 1500 horsepower. It is a true beast! :evillol:

What are you talking about I have a v8 with the 2 cyl delete mod

i was going to start a thread asking the same question...i guess it pays to read before starting an identical thread. My situation is that i would be getting a 93-97 camaro most likely...possibly a 98-02 if im lucky...but my dilema was deciding on either the LT1 or the LS1. I would be building it from the scratch with the goods of course, and so i was wondering which engine has a bigger aftermarket selection....is the LS1 much more expensive to upgrade than the LT1... and how come the LS1 is more psi limited than the LT1??? so then would it be safe to say that the LT1 would be better when adding a supercharger???

lt1 is the best, no question

Anyone watch American Hot Rod? If so, you probably saw the latest episode which is a '63 Stingray. The motor that is being made for it is a 434 all aluminum small block with twin turbos and fuel injection. It made nearly 700 hp....without boost! With the 25 lbs of boost they are estimating it at 1500 horsepower. It is a true beast! :evillol:

i think i saw it, if it was red, had some 20's on it that were tubbed out in the rear. that sum bitch was NASTY NASTY omg, id like to see that thing pop a wheelie at a red light and be out. mmmmm mmmmm bitch.

LS1 will cost you too much. Stroked 350 all the way.