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Starter problem


quiXilver
02-03-2005, 04:56 PM
When I did my swap, I bought a brand new starter. Now it picks when it wants to start or not. Sometimes it cranks right up, other times, it just goes "click" Then if I push start it, after that it will start up fine the rest of the day.

Even today it did it at wal-mart, I let it roll back about 6 in then released the clutch, then tried to start it and it worked.

Seems like the starter is sticking.

Should I get a new starter or is there a relay or something that can be replaced? Thx

EF You
02-03-2005, 11:32 PM
sounds like you have a bad spot in the starter motor windings. id replace the starter

turtlecrxsi
02-04-2005, 07:53 AM
There is a relay right above the hood release, but I doubt that's the problem.

quiXilver
02-04-2005, 09:43 AM
I should just get another starter then huh?

The only bad thing is I went to both of our local auto parts stores where I get my odds and ends, and they can't find anywhere on file where I bought a starter and I can't find my receipt! :banghead:

91civichatch2571
02-04-2005, 02:41 PM
you threw your old one out? Didnt you say in a post not too long ago, that if it isnt broken, then dont fix it? lol

quiXilver
02-04-2005, 06:40 PM
you threw your old one out? Didnt you say in a post not too long ago, that if it isnt broken, then dont fix it? lol


:uhoh: i did an ls swap, starter didn't come with it.

icE_x
02-04-2005, 06:45 PM
yeah, sounds like the starter is bad. Is it a brand new one? I doubt it's the relay because if that went bad then it wouldn't start with the starter at all

quiXilver
02-04-2005, 06:53 PM
yeah, sounds like the starter is bad. Is it a brand new one? I doubt it's the relay because if that went bad then it wouldn't start with the starter at all


yea the starter was brand new when I put the ls in like a couple months ago, so I think the starter is fu<kin' up.

jhmcrx
02-04-2005, 07:09 PM
i hate when you feel more secure just becuase the part is new...(fucking alternators) :swear:

icE_x
02-04-2005, 07:44 PM
yeah, i have a feeling some of the "new" stuff is just "remanufactured" but they don't tell you

that or they make it wrong lol

crv-tec
02-04-2005, 08:07 PM
The car I currently have has the same problem, however my car has been through 3 or 4 starters. I was told its possibly a eventual defect with the ignition switch....

1PhatCX
02-04-2005, 11:23 PM
if it still looks new and has there name on it or there brand name or what ever then they SHOULD warranty it, u can tell if its new, old, barely used etc

1 year old will start to get surface rust on it usually, if not then buy a new one, take urs off, return it and say its the wrong one.... or it wasnt the problem, we get that all the time

Hybrid1990crx
02-05-2005, 01:54 AM
if they wont return it all together, it will be cheaper for you to get it rebuilt, and its just about as good as a brand new one.

quiXilver
02-09-2005, 03:23 PM
Ok, well I replaced the starter (they exchanged it for me) and the mother fucker does the same thing.

So where should I start next? That relay, the big black box is what your talking about right?

Then it might be my ignition!?

Please help this is getting crazy, I can't hardly get around anymore.

91civichatch2571
02-09-2005, 11:33 PM
couple things to check would be:
-is the starter securely gounded?(try adding a ground, hard to explain why)
-clutch safety switch working properly?
-voltage drop to the starter
-all connections good and no corrosion
-ign switch

your gonna have to track this one down, sounds like a tuffy but you can do it.

civickiller
02-09-2005, 11:51 PM
main relay

quiXilver
02-10-2005, 01:55 AM
couple things to check would be:
-is the starter securely gounded?(try adding a ground, hard to explain why)
-clutch safety switch working properly?
-voltage drop to the starter
-all connections good and no corrosion
-ign switch

your gonna have to track this one down, sounds like a tuffy but you can do it.


Thanks for the input!

-I took off my clutch saftey switch.

-Not sure about voltage drop.

-The chassis ground on my battery when I swapped it to the back isn't that great, it's actually kinda loose, so I'm going to start there.

-I hope it ain't ign switch (btw it wouldn't make the starter click if it was the ign switch though right?)

quiXilver
02-10-2005, 01:56 AM
main relay


Where can I get those?

civickiller
02-10-2005, 03:17 AM
dealer. kidna expensive so might want to try cheap things first like what other people where saying about grounds

1PhatCX
02-10-2005, 11:04 AM
-I hope it ain't ign switch (btw it wouldn't make the starter click if it was the ign switch though right?)

if its just clicking usually its a dead battery

quiXilver
02-10-2005, 04:04 PM
if its just clicking usually its a dead battery


Yea, but i can take a screwdriver and arc it over and it fires right up.

1PhatCX
02-10-2005, 04:53 PM
hmmm, i think maybe a loose wire or something it sounds like, or maybe a bad solenoid, we used to have to do that to my buddys pick-up tho to get it started lol gotta love chev

quiXilver
02-10-2005, 05:31 PM
I went and got a push button starter, so wtf. I just cut like every fucking wire comming out of my ignition, testing to see which one was the starter and I got no where, I'm down to two wires I haven't cut, but it's getting dark and I have no more butt connectors to connect them back.

God damn I'm so pissed, I didn't think it would be this hard to install a fuckin push button starter.

Anyone know where the starter wire is? Or what color or WTF!?!? I'm going crazy!!!

The wire comming off my + batt terminal is going right to the starter, then there is one other small wire comming off the starter + going in to the fuse box under the hood that says "BATTERY"

The switch needs a +12v hot wire, 12v ign. wire, and a starter wire. I've got everything but the starter wire. If I have to run a damn wire myself to the starter I will but where to run it? Right where the battery is hooked up? Makes no sense...

PLEASE HELP

quiXilver
02-10-2005, 09:39 PM
Well I went back to the parts store and talked to a dude who knows his shit and it ends up, I don't even need the relay, just hooked up the button to a hot wire in the fuse box, then hooked up the other wire to the spade connection on the starter and bam done. I'll get a pic of the push button it's kinda cool.

It feels good to finally know I don't have to start my car with a screwdriver.

1PhatCX
02-10-2005, 09:42 PM
i was thinkin of doin the push button start too but have nowhere to put it really.... that and people can steal your car easily

would u be able to post pics of the process and what wires u used etc??? if i find a way to do it... i might :)

turtlecrxsi
02-11-2005, 09:14 AM
I guess that's cool if you never plan on getting rid of your car (which you've already made clear you never will).

1PhatCX
02-11-2005, 09:27 AM
and even if i do... i could keep a spare key and alarm transponder, walk up and steal it in the middle of the night :D hehe

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