subs with case for my current amps

Hi people,

I'm in the projet of getting a sub for my car (civic hatchback 95). So there isnt much space in the back.

I don't know much in subs except what the sellers at futureshop explained to me and he didn't look to know more than me... I'm listening to rock and metal music whith some hip-hop and techno and I listen to music for myself(not for others outside the car) so I look for quality not for extreme loudness. I don't have a large amount of money and I'd like to use the stuff I already own.

I already own 3 amps I got for not much:
A sherwood XAT 120 (60w rms X 2@ 4 ohms) (don't know much about this one...)
A alpine 3540 (30w rms X 2 @ 4 ohms, 80w x 1 @ 4 ohms)
A sony XM-280GTX(80W rms x 2 channels @ 4 ohms, 200W rms x 1 channel @ 4 ohms)

What sub should I pick with one of these. I was looking for infinity 10" or 12" on ebay (about 50$ each, any good??) and maybe mtx or kicker has I have read good comments on them (JL looks nice but they are expensive). something mid-range not the big expensive one nor the cheap ass legacy-like.

Also what kind of box should I go for and should I go 10" or 12"?

Thanks a lot, if you need any other info, ask me.

I think this all depends on what you have heard before. For example if the last sub you heard, you thought was a complete pile of crap (cough cough Legacy, Pyle, Lanzar), then youll be fine with the infinites. Now im not saying their good, just saying they might be good for YOU. Some of us here think that infinties sound cheap, but take into consideration that weve heard a variety of good subs that will chew up infinity, spit it out, and bury it 6 feet deep. In my opinion since your only want sound quality for urself, get the and ifinity refrence 12. All you need to do know is cover your ears if you hear another sub and run the another way lol. (Just incase it might sound better than the infinities) BTW Go for the infinity Kappa 12's if you can. IMO go sealed box.

Atlas 12 from Ascendant Audio runs $145 and has XBL^2 technology which you would greatly benifit from wanting great SQ and listening to rock mostly. It's the best priced XBL^2 driver out there. Also look at Adire's shivas they're 125 and ED's subs.... I'm not a big fan of ED though.

I think this all depends on what you have heard before. For example if the last sub you heard, you thought was a complete pile of crap (cough cough Legacy, Pyle, Lanzar), then youll be fine with the infinites. Now im not saying their good, just saying they might be good for YOU. Some of us here think that infinties sound cheap, but take into consideration that weve heard a variety of good subs that will chew up infinity, spit it out, and bury it 6 feet deep. In my opinion since your only want sound quality for urself, get the and ifinity refrence 12. All you need to do know is cover your ears if you hear another sub and run the another way lol. (Just incase it might sound better than the infinities) BTW Go for the infinity Kappa 12's if you can. IMO go sealed box.

I was talking about infinities because I saw some good review about em, and they were not expensive, but I'm not closed to that brand. What about kickers, alpine, MTX, are they good, my friend says MTX really good. I see a lot of people talking about reaudio but they sound expensive as people talk about 'em and I've never seen any in the stores(on ebay neither). People say don't go audioban or sony. What are these "variety of good subs that will chew up infinity" I should look for, I would put around 100$ on the sub alone matching with my current amp.

thanks for the reply

audiobahn and sony Definitely NO! Stay farr away, ive heard sony and audiobahn, they do nuthing but make this cuntinous loud obnoxious noise without sq. Well lets cancel out reaudio for you, you say that you dont have enough to spend so cancel that out. Next MTX, or Infinity is the way to go for you IMO. Havent really heard any good alpines or kickers. Don't let the people here discourage you, if you dont have a big budget go with mtx or inifinty. If you decide to save your money go for reaudio. ONce you buy your sub, stick with it and dont come back to the forums or else ull regret your purchase lol. Go MTX or Infinity. That should give YOU what youre looking for.

hahahahaha, well thank you a lot :grinno: I know I can't get the best with my budget !! I'll come back only when I will upgrade :smokin:

wut's your budget......most mainstream is garbage.

my budget is around 100$ for the woofer alone, I'm open to any suggestions, until I buy one :icon16: I'm from Canada so some brand may be harder to get/find.

go to www.caraudio.com they have a group buy goin on you can pick up a pair of RE12's for like 95 bucks shipped then get an amp tha does 300-400 watts rms at 4 ohms.....or 1 ohm.... that would be pretty damn good for someone who hasn't heard the "good stuff" You gotta get them before feb. 18 to get the good price though.

That would be nice but I don't have money to buy another amp and I found the thread but, I have to pay border charge cause it comes from the US...

ohhh.... where u at?

He be from Canada

yeah I'm from Sherbrooke, in Quebec Canada

Canada shouldn't be a problem..... give them a call though it shoudln't be much more.

thanks I think I'll give it a try for the RE. Do you think I should get 2 12", one 12", one 10" or 2 10" ? Remember I don't have a big car and i don't want to change my alternator :smokin:

thanks I think I'll give it a try for the RE. Do you think I should get 2 12", one 12", one 10" or 2 10" ? Remember I don't have a big car and i don't want to change my alternator :smokin:
Since space is a concern, you should look into something better on space than those you were told about. You could go with 2 Directed Audio 10" woofers and only give up about 1.25cu/ft sealed or about 3cu/ft ported on average. You should give them a serious look. Even their Extreme line is very cost effective($95/pair)!

Car audio is a world of pain when it comes to make the right purchase :sly: . I think the reaudio would take more place but I will save money on the amplifier, as the re10 are 175 rms(by the way i think I'l go for 2 10") and the directed are 600w for the XS and 300 rms for the normal one. I there a big difference is sound quality and loundess between these?

Car audio is a world of pain when it comes to make the right purchase :sly: . I think the reaudio would take more place but I will save money on the amplifier, as the re10 are 175 rms(by the way i think I'l go for 2 10") and the directed are 600w for the XS and 300 rms for the normal one. I there a big difference is sound quality and loundess between these?

Of course I will tout DEI and B-stang will tout Adire. Personally, I love DEI(yes, I do sell others too). They seem to fit the bill for most car audio customers. They are very user friendly and best of all, take hardly any space. The Xtreme line is great for the 1st timer but there are some short commings on them. Just like anything, you get what you pay for. I sell the 12" all day long for $45 a piece.

If only I could listen to these... Can someone tell me how for example a RE10" compares to a Directed audio 10" and infinity reference 10" as the infinities are the only one I've heard.

Would there be much difference with the 12"?

thanks again :smile:

Don't get a kicker..it's awesome quality but you want the music for you not for everyone else, jl are good but expensive very true..I would go with your alpine for quality and get 10's but 12's...too much for a hatch and be careful with speakers on ebay it's a little scandolous out there

First off only the RE12's need bigger boxes (1.75-2.25 cubes sealed) The RE10's only need .75-1 cube sealed. The re series is better the JL w0's and w1v2's ALMOST (meaning right there but not quite) as loud as 10w3v2's.....but better SQ. did I mention they were only 42 a piece shipped until feb. 18? did u call about what's up w/ canada?

First off only the RE12's need bigger boxes (1.75-2.25 cubes sealed) The RE10's only need .75-1 cube sealed. The re series is better the JL w0's and w1v2's ALMOST (meaning right there but not quite) as loud as 10w3v2's.....but better SQ. did I mention they were only 42 a piece shipped until feb. 18? did u call about what's up w/ canada?

No, but I'll give em' a call tomorrow and tell you how much it is. If it's not too high I think I'll give 2 Re10 a try.

Directed audio...ptshhhh....you think Bstang reccomends anything other than RE? lol. but he is right. Shiva would be the next on the list. $125 and some great SQ. 88.6l for a Q of 6 is what adire reccomends. thats roughly 3.1cuft. and the shiva will MOVE with only minimal wattage. either hte sherwood amp or the sony amp would be optimal. sony would give more wattage but less SQ and im not familure with the sherwood name.

If only I could listen to these... Can someone tell me how for example a RE10" compares to a Directed audio 10" and infinity reference 10" as the infinities are the only one I've heard.

Would there be much difference with the 12"?

thanks again :smile:
Well, I am not sure but I think DEI is expanding in Canada. Try there sight to see if you can find a dealer. www.directed.com

So I've placed an order for 2 re10. That was hard cause I don't speak english very well lol !! There was a 25$ extra for shipping to QC canada. I think I will just plug 1 to start cause I don't have money for a better amplifier. L'et's see how it goes ! :grinno:

So I've placed an order for 2 re10. That was hard cause I don't speak english very well lol !! There was a 25$ extra for shipping to QC canada. I think I will just plug 1 to start cause I don't have money for a better amplifier. L'et's see how it goes ! :grinno:
Glad for the purchase. Let us know what you think but remember the proper enclosure is the key!!!!

Glad for the purchase. Let us know what you think but remember the proper enclosure is the key!!!!

Yeah, my father proposed to build the box for me if I give him a plan for it. I searched all over the net but I didn't find already made box model for these subs except on re website, but people told me the mesures where wrong. I'd like to go vented but how do I actually calculate the vent lenght? My box would be 20" deep by 12" tall and 3 feet large.

thanks I think I'll give it a try for the RE. Do you think I should get 2 12", one 12", one 10" or 2 10" ? Remember I don't have a big car and i don't want to change my alternator :smokin:

Well, believe me...with your amplifiers you won't have to worry about electrical.

And in all honesty, the truth is...the current amplifiers you have suck. The only HALF decent one is the alpine which puts out hardly any power. Good thing to look into (which seems you already have a grasp of) is RMS power! :)

My suggestion is look into a pair of RE12's or RE10's even. Sell ALL three of your amps...and then look into ONE Profile Clarus series amplifier. Such as the profile CL600. It will work quite well with a pair of the RE woofers and provide you with more power. (Don't worry...it's not to much for your car ;))

The profile amps can be had on www.ikesound.com , www.thezeb.com , or new from an ebay store. Stick with the CL line, it's the only worthwhile line to get.

You'll be happy and amazed with that setup!

NG

DAMN FRENCH CANADIANS!! lol. just playing. canadians are kool. they play soccer good. Get some pics of your set up once you get it all buttoned up. oh, and how is it that you dont speak english well yet you type better than me?

Damn French!

Damn French!

a TRUE post whore... lol ;)

Hopefully he will see my post above...

Two re's and the CL600 will work great for him!

NG

your avatar makes me disy when i stare at it...

read the damn thread noah LOL he already prdered 2 RE 10's.

I'll be using my current amplifiers for my front and rear speakers now. I know they aren't powerful (and quality) enough for the subs. My plan have change since the beginning of this post :grinyes:

your avatar makes me disy when i stare at it...
HEHE, that's what near 3" of cone travel on a subwoofer does to ya!
I'll be using my current amplifiers for my front and rear speakers now. I know they aren't powerful (and quality) enough for the subs. My plan have change since the beginning of this post :grinyes:

WERDNESS, I fell behind quick. Still getting used to the layout...and didn't notice page 2. Skipped right over it :)

You'll be happy!

NG