Wasted by a GSR

Tonight at an 1/8 mile track, I ran against my friend's GSR, bonestock. He eased into the whole, pulling an embarassing 8.5 r/t, coz it was his first time at that track. The Christmas Tree was throwing semi-pro launches, so I was set to kill, or so I thought. I started messing with my rpm, and then I saw RED... Still couldn't get it to stay at 35, so I said FUKK IT, and I just stayed at 750 idle and waited for the last amber, and then a split second before I got a 2100 RPM take off, bogged my first gear so he jumped ahead of me by about a car and a half.. I was thinking, "I've been in this whole before, it wasn't as bad but I caught up..." But his second gear was a little stronger than I expected and he stayed ahead by a car and a half the whole way, but the track actually runs half a mile so even after we edged times, we kept going, I was a car and a half at the 1/8th, I was half a car behind at the end of what we thought was the quarter.
Then at the street races.... He let me run his car against a 1987 Camaro IROC 5.7 350 with tuned port injection. That fool jumped me off the line by about a car and a half coz of that automatic tranny... But I felt the GSR's power when I shifted into third, I caught up to him and jumped him by a car length before shifting into fourth, and we raced all the way up to about 150, I was a car length ahead all the way. you should've seen the look on his face. :smoker:

dood, gsr's don even get to 150mph...i had a gsr and i use to drive my friendz iroc all the time when it waz stock...the gsr would get wasted once the iroc get movin....

Hey, I raced the IROC, it lost. That's the bottom line. A GSR broke off my friend's 5.0, a GSR broke off a 97+ NonSH Prelude, and a GSR broke me off... So I'm pretty sure by now that they've gained a name for themselves.

i wish there was a strip around my way.... :(
then i can get some timeslips.... :(

Originally posted by jOYRiDe
i wish there was a strip around my way.... :(
then i can get some timeslips.... :(
for what? your short bus:D

i catch the train, not the bus!! LOL
nah i wana how fast my bros civic pulls up in the quarter mile

If you are losing to GSR's, then you are not in the 14's like you think bud, especially a bone stock GSR

Your lack of intelligence boggles me.
Who said I hit 14's? I hit 15.5's... So I'm about .2 away from a stock GSr, if I mess up and the GSR driver knows how to drive, I won't catch him.
Get a life.

Originally posted by S2Corolla
GSR's are reasonable, it depends on the start, but most GSR's I race that have MINOR mods, I can take

If this is so, why are you getting wasted by "bonestock ones??

Wanna bet money on that? C'mon... I want to bet you money... Let's say... 80 dollars says I break 14.8 without any forced induction.

That must have been a fast GSR to be pulling mid 14's bonestock if he was only .2 ahead of you. You never know though, I'm sure there are some factory freaks that run a second faster than they are supposed to??

GSRs pull HARD in 3rd gear. You might be able to keep up through 2nd, but after that forget it.

Originally posted by cybercrx00


That must have been a fast GSR to be pulling mid 14's bonestock if he was only .2 ahead of you. You never know though, I'm sure there are some factory freaks that run a second faster than they are supposed to??

You know, some people say when you're kneedeep in shit, maybe it's time to give up.... You don't really believe in such talk.
First off, the 80 dollar bet was in reference to my plans of building up my head without forced induction. Which is why I said, I'll break 14's WITHOUT forced induction, I NEVER said, and you can even check you're so called "gotcha there" quote on me, that I would break into 14's with what I had now... Otherwise, you guessed it "genius", I would've said, "80 dollars says I'll break 14's WITH WHAT I HAVE NOW..."
God it makes me wonder whether you made it passed 6th grade or not, quote that.
Oh and I never said I get wasted by bonestock GSR'S AS IN PLURAL, I said I got wasted by ONE gsr, and it was because he was a really good driver and I got a bad start, why don't you quote my whole statement before you act as premature as your mind.
I run mid 15's now, ironic to your simple mind how stock gsr's run mid to high 15's too, huh?
Oh and get your facts straight, GSR's pull hard in third gear when you DON'T have a strong third gear. EVERY gear on a GSR is strong, it's just that it's third gear doesn't lose power so it pulls harder on slower cars. The first gear is controversial, without good tires you won't be getting anywhere in a GSR, because in first you get smoked, second you catch up, and third you pull, but with good grip you can drop the clutch at about 5500 rpm, and first gear will kick ass just as much as second and third. I know a hell of a lot more about Honda/Acura than you know about making up good names, "cybercrx" to say the least.

So let's see, I backfired both of your arguementive supporting quotes, I shut you up about something you CLAIM through words to know more about than me, and I shut up some other guy who showed up with mediocre town talk when he doesn't even know the math.

You rack up the points and tell me where I'm at junior?

Originally posted by S2Corolla
I said I got wasted by ONE gsr, and it was because he was a really good driver and I got a bad start,

So you are a bad driver

EVERY gear on a GSR is strong, it's just that it's third gear doesn't lose power so it pulls harder on slower cars

Your car is slow

mid to high 15s seems kinda average for a GSR with a good driver. My friends 95 ran 15.1-15.3 all day before he got his clutch/flywheel

Originally posted by cybercrx00


So you are a bad driver

thats not very nice

Originally posted by cybercrx00

Your car is slow

u yea that probably is true

I think I need to stop picking on this kid.....if he thinks a fwd slorolla will be fast, then I suppose that's his idea. Good luck, I hope you spend $10 to get into the 14's

You really are just plain and simple stupid. I said if you have a slow car a GSR pulls hard in third, but I never said I have a slow car. You have a slow brain. Try quoting everything I say and not just what you want to manipulate to your advantage. You know what's funny? You and carrrnut are the only ones that give me hell when I'm here, but carrrnut, I acknowledge his intelligence. You just have a lack there of intelligence.
I said he stayed ahead but he didn't pull neither did I. So that kind of turns around what you said about my car being slow doesn't it?

Oh and I said I got a bad start. I'm pretty sure a pea-brained dumbass like you has gotten a LOT of bad starts, if you actually race. You ever hear of slipping? Even guys like Stephen Papadakis slip sometimes. Are you gonna show your wannabe manly ballls and tell him that face to face? Because I'm sure he's messed up a couple of times.
Oh and wow, I lost to ONE GSR out of ten that I've raced ever since I got my head done, and I taught this guy how to drive so where does that put what you've said? No where bro, because your statements were as half assed as your use of the quote button.

Bring me a stock Si/GSR that you think can beat me, and I'll bring you more in your face than your IQ results.

I already mentioned one. it was a stock 95 that pulled 15.1-15.3 consistantly

but he already said he runs that fast on the street, and you know how accurate having your buddy sit there with a stopwatch or however you measure how fast youare ion the street is

Yes... GSR's are pretty fast, but to be able to beat an '87 IROC by a car-length... especially after the IROC already has the jump... that's a little hard to believe... but then again, with the IROC being an auto it might happen.

Check this link out for stock times on each car...

http://web.missouri.edu/~apcb20/times.html

First off, as I said 50 times but your mind can't comprehend, 15.3 or 15.4 is my street time at best. That's with slicks, minor weight reduction, higher octane and not a race.... Meaning the time starts when I start going. In a race during normal circumstances, my car is basically a mid to high 15 second car, which is basically what a stock or slightly modified GSR runs... DUH...

Oh and his was a 1988 Iroc, which based off of that link is claimed to run 15.5 at the 1/4, now if it was automatic, near 15 years old and I'm a good driver, just because he jumped me off the line, it's reasonable to believe for me to catch up in second gear and jump him in third. Especially since I dump the clutch in his car at about 4800 rpm, soften the throttle to gain traction and load that baby into high rpm in first gear, so even though he jumps the line, as soon as I gained traction it's pretty much old news from there. GSR's don't lose much acceleration in third gear because of their rough gearing. That's why GSR's get the same 0-60 as Si's, but get a better 1/4 mile time by about .2 of a second. Their lack of first and second gear hp to the ground delivery is made up by their monstrous third gear ratio and high end hp. You see a GSR lacks lower end torque and hp, which is why if you don't use first gear right, most cars will jump them off the line, but the only gear in a GSR that sucks is first gear, second gear kicks ass too, it's just that you won't notice how much it kicks ass unless the GSR is dead even with you in first gear and then you see them pull in second, and rip you up in third. Most four cylinders, *MOST* four cylinders have a moderate second gear, a "go get em'" first gear, and a sloppy third, but GSR's, were built to run good in every gear... First gear doesn't suck, third gear doesn't kick ass... They all just do what they're meant to do. Drop in shorter gearing on a GSR and you'll at least drop your times by about half a second, and that's with stock street tires and stock clutch with no weight reduction. This is why the Type R kicks so much more ass than a GSR. Shorter gearing, stronger suspension and better delivery. Give those elements to a GSR and the measley 28 hp a Type R has over a GSR is going to mean nothing... And that goes to all you weirdo's who swap in a Type R motor over a GSR motor thinking it's 100% better.

My friend with a hatchback was all, "Should I get a b16a, or a b16b..." And I was like, "Dude, if you get a B16B, an integra type r is still going to hand you your ass, because it's not the motor that makes Type R's so great... It's everything about them."

Anyways, I swapped over to Honda now, so you guys can quit with your premature bullsh*t. I'm not saying Honda is better than Toyota, every manufacturer has it's advantages, but for what I want, Honda's aftermarket support, better looking body kits and their motor swapping options are really the main factors I have to consider.

Originally posted by S2Corolla
15.5 is street time, on street pavement. 15.9 is my track time, if I do good, 15.7. Yet again, carrrnut makes an immature attempt to have one up on me, bottom line... If you have the guts, go to San Diego sometime, I'll meet you there, and we can handle this, but we'll have to plan it ahead by like two months, because I actually have a life... I know it's hard for you to believe that I have a life and you don't but it is true.

Actually this is what you said, and I included the whole quote so you can even remember maybe what you are talking(cough) BSing about.


BTW-why do you race on slicks on the street, drag radials should do just fine, and not be as expensive or dangerous?
What do you use at the track??

Originally posted by cybercrx00

BTW-why do you race on slicks on the street, drag radials should do just fine, and not be as expensive or dangerous?
What do you use at the track??
I don't think he even knows,he sure as hell gonna make something up though

hehehehehe

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Oh and his was a 1988 Iroc, which based off of that link is claimed to run 15.5 at the 1/4, now if it was automatic, near 15 years old...

If his car was a POS, even for being 15 years old... maybe he should've thought better about trying to race that thing... if that's the case, then he deserved to get beat.

Oh, and just being 15 yrs old doesn't make the car go slower... I still have my '88 T/A that I bought in high school (oh so long ago). Bought it 7k miles on it and it only has barely 51k on it right now. Don't get offended, but the reason why I said it was hard to believe is because I was relating his car's condition to mine. I've raced GSR's a few times already... the GSR's a fast car, but if I get the jump, there's no catching up unless the GSR is heavily modded... and my '88 is an auto also. I'd have to admit that I've slightly modded it... chip, exhaust,headers, intake... the usual minor bolt-ons that don't really do very much. I've never taken this car to the tracks because I know that it can't compete with the other cars yet.

Again... if his car wasn't in top form, he shouldn't be trying to race with that POS... and if he does anyway, that's just askin' for a whoopin.

Because they're my friends. And regardless, slicks are going to grab better than my stock tires. Yes I know they're not safe, but after I go that straight line I throw em off. You wanna ask my friend why he uses slicks instead of radials? I don't know if it will be either the fact that he lives on the track and only watches street races, or maybe because drag radials don't fit his taste, I don't know.
Oh and the 15.5 was before I was able to get my hands on slicks. Remember the whole thing I said about weight reduction and slicks and ME starting it?
15.5 is my RACE time, that's me trying to beat another car. I'm one of those people that does things really good by myself. When I race other cars, I can barely get a third gear chirp on my street tires, but with the same tires same condition and NO opponent, I can get a fourth gear chirp.
Okay so I explained myself, so you can just shut your mouth because everything you throw at me is going to get a decent response. And when you have decent responses to half-assed attempts to flame then you've got nothing but stupidity written all over you.
Oh and the guy with the Trans Am. The IROC I raced was in good running condition, no mods, going bald tires and it had minor electrical problems. I had a 1968 Firebird with 86,000 miles on the stock 400 ci Formula motor... Believe me, all those years make a huge difference.
His car was in decent condition, but the fact that my friends car had better tires, much better driving condition, (46k miles on a 96 GSR, changed oil synthetic every 2900 miles, performance plugs) I caught him in third gear.