think i can beat a 2002 corolla manual?

my friend has a corolla and he has a custom ram air intake and a muffler. do you think i can get him with my stock as hell civic dx hatch? i think that i can give him some comp but i don't know. just because of the fact that my hatch weighs as much as my shoe. lol. he get's 16.4 in the 1/4

16.4? Dude, I run 15.9, maybe 15.7... Get your facts straight. And your dx doesn't weigh as much as your shoe. Your shoe weighs 2000+ lbs.? How do you walk with that?

it's a corolla, need you say more??

i'm stuck with a US spec corolla it blows it's soo gay and useless unless you're a girl and don't care about cars

Originally posted by S2Corolla
16.4? Dude, I run 15.9, maybe 15.7... Get your facts straight. And your dx doesn't weigh as much as your shoe. Your shoe weighs 2000+ lbs.? How do you walk with that?

So...which one was your best? 15.7 or 15.5? Just trying to weed out the lies.

15.5 is street time, on street pavement. 15.9 is my track time, if I do good, 15.7. Yet again, carrrnut makes an immature attempt to have one up on me, bottom line... If you have the guts, go to San Diego sometime, I'll meet you there, and we can handle this, but we'll have to plan it ahead by like two months, because I actually have a life... I know it's hard for you to believe that I have a life and you don't but it is true.

you drive a corolla... alrighty and what is a street time is that a, well at the track i run worse than when i am driving on crappier roads? you make no sense why isn't your track time your fastest and who clocked your 15.5?

I think I'll bet on the civic because corollas are rather weak compared to their curbweight.

i know it would be a slow race to watch thats for sure :finger:

Originally posted by spy54
you drive a corolla... alrighty and what is a street time is that a, well at the track i run worse than when i am driving on crappier roads? you make no sense why isn't your track time your fastest and who clocked your 15.5?

my cars faster on crappier roads, if theres just a little bit of loose sand or something so i can spin my tires on takeoff instead of bogging down. so i can get my fastest times on the street, maybe thats what hes talking about? but i dont know how he came up with an actual time? it must be his estimation... :confused:

Originally posted by cybercrx00
it's a corolla, need you say more??

Thats what I was thinking. Even the Coroalla S is extreemly weak. Raced one last night. Bye bye sucker.

corollas suck mines completey shit

actually, my buddy has a completely stock AE86, it's pretty cool, slow, but cool. He is going to start fixing it up soon and it should be pretty fast knowing him. here's a link: http://www.abqimportscene.com/nmauto/members.php?view=43

I raced the hatch... Smoked him by about 3 car lengths... Off the start to the finish. He beat a 97 EX, made me proud, I told him he better not lose. Look in case you guys didn't know, me and liquid8 are homies, I've known him for five years, he used to drive a 5.0, I'm the one that talked him into getting a hatch, but when you see a Corolla beat a 99 Civic Si, and then you see a Corolla lose to a GSR by a mere car length, it changes your perspective of Corolla's.

Oh yeah and I tested my road time with Gtech pro. You guys disappoint me when it comes to knowledge.
When you have STREET tires, you get better traction on... well... the street. When you have drag radials, you get better traction on... well... the drag strip. I have street tires, and I get better traction on... the street. So when I street race out in the country, I get better times then on the track. My time slips at the track read 15.9. My Gtech pro read 15.5, at best, even though the Gtech is off by a bit. So when I say I run 15.7 in arguement to his statement, it's because when I race, I prefer to do so on the track...
Does that clarify things?

Originally posted by cybercrx00
actually, my buddy has a completely stock AE86, it's pretty cool, slow, but cool. He is going to start fixing it up soon and it should be pretty fast knowing him. here's a link: http://www.abqimportscene.com/nmauto/members.php?view=43 - sweet :D

Originally posted by S2Corolla
I raced the hatch... Smoked him by about 3 car lengths... Off the start to the finish. He beat a 97 EX, made me proud, I told him he better not lose. Look in case you guys didn't know, me and liquid8 are homies, I've known him for five years, he used to drive a 5.0, I'm the one that talked him into getting a hatch, but when you see a Corolla beat a 99 Civic Si, and then you see a Corolla lose to a GSR by a mere car length, it changes your perspective of Corolla's.

i drive one everyday well nearly everyday :D but i still think they suck all new ones are gay if they're US spec the euro ones are better six speed etc more like the Celica GTS but there you go IT SUCKS NOTHING WILL CHANGE IT NOT EVEN A LITTLE BADGE WITH S

Originally posted by Neutrino
I think I'll bet on the civic because corollas are rather weak compared to their curbweight.


that is not really true. they are lighter than the new civics and they have the same hp and more torque. i think that's a pretty damn good advantage

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Oh yeah and I tested my road time with Gtech pro. You guys disappoint me when it comes to knowledge.
When you have STREET tires, you get better traction on... well... the street. When you have drag radials, you get better traction on... well... the drag strip. I have street tires, and I get better traction on... the street. So when I street race out in the country, I get better times then on the track. My time slips at the track read 15.9. My Gtech pro read 15.5, at best, even though the Gtech is off by a bit. So when I say I run 15.7 in arguement to his statement, it's because when I race, I prefer to do so on the track...
Does that clarify things?

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Okay, is that quote in reference to me being unarmed, or me being fully loaded?

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Okay, is that quote in reference to me being unarmed, or me being fully loaded?


basically most of this forum thinks you're a tard

i personnally drive a corolla nearly everyday other days it a Volvo but corollas SUCK they don't do shit i got beaten by a 6 year old civic of the line after a while the mid pulled on him a bit but then he went faster again


THEY suck his was a 8 valve too i mean 8 vs 16valve and 16 valve lost and they're both auto so don't give me that shit and i know when someone pulls on me cuz he looks further away............. COROLLA BLOWS

... Okay, do you honestly think I give a rat's herpies infested ass what everyone thinks? If I did, believe me, I wouldn't be into street racing, I'd still be in high school or something.

What do YOU drive? Obviously your Corolla is stock automatic. And if you got beat by an 8 valve Civic, then that means two things.... YOUR Corolla is a piece of crap... You probably didn't take care of it. Do you think a Civic EX Automatic would do good if the owner NEVER changed the oil, put 320,000 miles on it, and it's a 99', and he redlined it for 23 seconds using the L gear?

There are a lot of factors. Think about this.
2002 Corolla
126 HP
128 LBS. FT Torque
Curb Weight - about 2400 LBS.
2001 Civic EX 2 Door coupe
127 HP
112 LBS. FT Torque
Curb Weight - about 2400 LBS.

Those are the numbers, bro... Who's unarmed now?

OH yeah, and the second thing it means, is that he probably does a lot more maintenance to his Civic than you do to your car. Or it means he's a dammmed liar and he has something else in it.

Oh and you also talk a lot of trash for someone with "Something in the works..."

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Oh and you also talk a lot of trash for someone with "Something in the works..."

3 posts? one is enough ? heard of edit ?

and by the way something in the works means I'm moving to a different country so i have to get some money together


i'd like to see some time slis for your car if you have them of course i'll gladly hand my ass over to you but apart from that you're a tard nuff said


"Corolla is a piece of crap..." only thing you said that makes sense so far


my corolla was about 6 months old when i raced his 6 yea old junk master EX and as far as i'm concerned you really have no clue and this was my friends car and i know its a piece of shit its sounds like a diesel now if a new corolla can't beat an old civic 8 valve it means its shit!

"he redlined it for 23 seconds using the L gear" and what does this mean absolutely nothing more uncultured bullshit



"OH yeah" yea yea yea tell me another one

no flames please!

Originally posted by jOYRiDe
no flames please!

k

one word time slips

ONE word huh?

Okay, as soon as I move to Claremont, I'll give you time slips that will put your foot in your mouth. Oh yeah and any automatic car sucks. Even Corvette's suck because now they're all automatic, you have to get a Z06 or a special order to get the 6 speed.

Do you honestly think the B16 Civics would've been sick if they were automatic? NO. So of course you're going to say Corolla's are weak, because the majority of them are automatic. I went in and hand picked a Corolla with 5 speed, and it didn't disappoint me. I'm open minded. Any car can be fast to me... Tercels, Tiburons, I even think the Insights have potential. A motor is a motor, good old fashioned mechanics is what makes a motor strong, not aftermarket support. What's the aftermarket? Intake, header, exhaust and pre-programmed ECU's. Everything can be done custom. You're telling me a DOHC 1.8 motor with variable valve timing that already has a strong torque curve, doesn't have potential? Well the only thing I can say to that is, you BETTER not try to get into drag racing, because there are SOHC motors that run 12's without turbo, and I'm talking about SOHC motors without any valve timing.
Mustang 5.0's have a crappy horsepower figure STOCK, but drop aluminum GT40 heads on them with a pair of shiny headers, and you have yourself a low 14 second car, with just four parts!

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Corolla's are weak

I will agree with you on that one!!

Originally posted by S2Corolla
ONE word huh?

Okay, as soon as I move to Claremont, I'll give you time slips that will put your foot in your mouth. Oh yeah and any automatic car sucks. Even Corvette's suck because now they're all automatic, you have to get a Z06 or a special order to get the 6 speed.

Do you honestly think the B16 Civics would've been sick if they were automatic? NO. So of course you're going to say Corolla's are weak, because the majority of them are automatic. I went in and hand picked a Corolla with 5 speed, and it didn't disappoint me. I'm open minded. Any car can be fast to me... Tercels, Tiburons, I even think the Insights have potential. A motor is a motor, good old fashioned mechanics is what makes a motor strong, not aftermarket support. What's the aftermarket? Intake, header, exhaust and pre-programmed ECU's. Everything can be done custom. You're telling me a DOHC 1.8 motor with variable valve timing that already has a strong torque curve, doesn't have potential? Well the only thing I can say to that is, you BETTER not try to get into drag racing, because there are SOHC motors that run 12's without turbo, and I'm talking about SOHC motors without any valve timing.
Mustang 5.0's have a crappy horsepower figure STOCK, but drop aluminum GT40 heads on them with a pair of shiny headers, and you have yourself a low 14 second car, with just four parts!

the civic was auto ? whatever my car rolls over in corners and its falling apart
the radio and the vent have broken for no apparent reason

and then the cup holder broke but some retard did that!

ok yea fine whatever bring the time slips in if they're good good for you

but every other corolla blows unless its JDM :D the round headlights the rally cars !!!!!!!!!

id probably cry if i lost to a corolla.

Hey i work at Toyota and no compact cars impressed me but the MATRIX..now thats a nice ride. Not fast but quick and fun! I driven the new corolla and it is pretty much quicker than a dx. I'm not takin sides but it is quicker than a dx no doubt.

i think the concept for the matrix is a good one, but i cant get over the looks. It looks like its just another gimmick vehicle, like the PT cruiser or some other crap. The vibe is the same way

Originally posted by kidrocket
i think the concept for the matrix is a good one, but i cant get over the looks. It looks like its just another gimmick vehicle, like the PT cruiser or some other crap. The vibe is the same way

Personally i don't dig the looks but how it rides is wat got me. The inside looks pretty kool.:)

Originally posted by kidrocket
id probably cry if i lost to a corolla.

Better have some tissue with you if you meet me at the drag strip.
I'm getting slicks on stock rims today. And this weekend I'm getting my cams regrounded by Crower.
C'mon, out of the four of you that talked trash, I wanna meet at least TWO of you at Palmsdale. Let's put it this way, I raced a guy in a Prelude 2001 Non-SH, he used to drag a 280Z with a Chevy 350 motor, so he DOES know how to drive. After I put him to sleep he was quite suprised and told me, "that's a nice sleeper right there, go get those Honda's"
THOSE are the kind of Honda-drivers I like, and guess what NSX-JR or whatever, he actually HAS a HONDA car.
I think YOU talk trash coz you don't have squat. And he did break off a GSR before he raced me.

ive eaten my share of ludes and GSRs as well. i congratulate you on your kills. All im saying is the name corolla doesnt really put fear in the hearts of honda drivers. Im glad to see someone trying to correct that. I didnt mean to come off as an ass.

hahah ok maybe we should stop the anti corolla nonscence personnally i think corollas suck horrible handling etc i heard the new matrix is good and the 6 speed Euro corolla is much better as its used in the rally !

So your corolla runs 14's, that's not too bad I guess then. on a side note, my friend's crx just pulled 13.8 in phx last weekend on 1 and only good run on a stock h22. So with a little more work a corolla might be as fast as a stock prelude engine in a crx

Thank you for ending the madness. To add to what you said, I know first hand that stock Corolla's handle like a bath tub on wheels, because I tried to take a freeway exit going 55, and I found out what it feels like to have all four wheels on the road but see the road sideways. I'm sure with suspension mods like springs, shocks and struts with strut bars, it will handle better, but frames on GSR's and Preludes are set up for better handling... Corolla's are set up for grocery shopping, sot it's a burden to work with.
Seriously though, a CRX with a H22 would kill me right now. I think a stock H22 car without Type SH torque transfer system will give me a good race, maybe even beat me. I'm not on a mission to stop Honda, that's impossible... There's always goign to be a GSR with a supercharger that's gonna put me to sleep. But I at least want to TRY to go against the flow of traffic.
And wait a minute, aren't we import drivers supposed to be on the same side? We should be saying, "Focus' suck!" Not "Corolla's suck" Coz I can take a Focus any time of the week. I even took an SVT Focus, and look how much hype those have...

Oh yeah and NSXJR... etc...
The new Matrix's are weak, I'd much rather have a GSR. Their center of gravity is too high, and their suspension is crap that's been stepped on, it's a wanna be GTS with a family wagon body, and they already said straight out that it's not going to have any aftermarket support because it retails too high.
The only family like sport sedan that I see potential in is the WRX and the SE-R spec V, or the four door GSR.

My post was sarcasm, I don't think your corolla will ever make 14's n/a

Wanna bet money on that? C'mon... I want to bet you money... Let's say... 80 dollars says I break 14.8 without any forced induction.

How about this....you break into 14's and I'll send you a picture of my ass.

Why do I want that? If I break 14's I'll just get a picture of your girl's ass, or better yet, the real thing.

My the only toyota my gf will ever sit in is a lexus, and if all you got is a corolla, good luck!!!

Haha, and your CRX she sits in? The day your CRX rates up to a Lexus is the day monkey's fly out of my ass. And I don't see any monkeys behind me. And as far as I'm concerned, compared to your car, my car is a Lexus.

Who said I own a CRX???

Who cares what you own? I don't, and that's all that matters to me. I'm gonna get like 3 stars arguing with you, because this is never gonna end. I'm not going to back down.
And I guarantee you I'll break 14's without my engine's full capability. I hate Honda drivers like you. You swear Honda's are some God-like machines. Stock for stock, the only Honda that can take me is the 99-00 Civic Si, the Prelude and the S2000... WOW... I can take Civic EX's, Lx's, DX's, CX's, and I can take Accord EX V6's, and LX V6's, I can take CRV's, CRX Si's, and pretty much any stock Honda you throw at me. And now that I have a port and polished head, I'll take any stock Civic Si on the road. Even in an all out horsepower battle, I pull on Si's. GSR's are reasonable, it depends on the start, but most GSR's I race that have MINOR mods, I can take. Now tell me what YOU own, if you don't onw a hybrid CRX, a Civic Si, or a GSR, then keep quiet coz you don't even belong on this thread arguing with me, because I'm officially on another level. And I seriously doubt you own an S2000, because if you did, you wouldn't be on this thread.

whoa this argument is still going???LOL
hey s2corolla, im from australia so i wouldnt know what kind of corolla u drive. can u tell me the US corolla specs?
aussie corollas have the VVTi engines and (from memory i think 1.8L) its claimed to have 100kW (presumably at the fly)... umm i dunno wot else to tell u but our corollas come in 4 door sedan, hatch or wagon and it looks similar to the echo's
is that what US corollas are like?

Originally posted by S2Corolla
Who cares what you own?.......Now tell me what YOU own, if you don't onw a hybrid CRX, a Civic Si, or a GSR, then keep quiet coz you don't even belong on this thread arguing with me, because I'm officially on another level. And I seriously doubt you own an S2000, because if you did, you wouldn't be on this thread.

What a hypocrit, I thought you didn't care what he owned:D Actually though, I think he drives a 300zx...I could definately be wrong there, though...Either he drives one, used to drive one, his uncle lives next door to a guy who used to own one...SOMETHING. He has SOMETHING to do with a 300zx...I'm pretty sure of that!:D

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
i'm stuck with a US spec corolla it blows it's soo gay and useless unless you're a girl and don't care about cars

or if you're a college student just looking to get around :)

Actually, I got rid of the twin turbo and got rid of the crx, now I drive a frontier 4x4 and a 2000 SH prelude, but I'm looking for something to work on, possibly a 91-92 240sx or a 99-00 civic SI, but haven't found anything I like yet. I'm not a honda guy, I like hondas, but I don't swear by them, I just like fast car, and that is a family that 4 door corolla's will never be a part of

Originally posted by cybercrx00
Actually, I got rid of the twin turbo and got rid of the crx, now I drive a frontier 4x4 and a 2000 SH prelude, but I'm looking for something to work on, possibly a 91-92 240sx or a 99-00 civic SI, but haven't found anything I like yet. I'm not a honda guy, I like hondas, but I don't swear by them, I just like fast car, and that is a family that 4 door corolla's will never be a part of

Go for a 1993 Camaro Z28. You can pick these up CHEAP, they're fast, and have TONS upon TONS of potential!

there is a guy here with a 1992 z28 with a s/c, it is alright looking, but I'm not too big on the big american muscle thing. I am really interested in getting the 89-92 240sx and doing the s13 swap. if I could pull 300 ft/lb of tq on that enigine, with the wieght of the car, and a good suspension setup, it will make for a really nice street/track setup.

one more question where's the time slip and what engine does an S2 have

I think i actually beat that DX :D never lost once :hehehe:

These are my specs. I don't have a scanner, but I want to get my specs scanned.
Stock, I pulled 111 HP and 118 LBS. FT. Torque
The peak hp pulled at about 5100 Rpm, with a 6100 rpm redline.
The peak torque pulls in at about 3400 rpm, and slowly curves down.
When I got the port and polish, the mechanic told me that it'd be better to get an intake to take advantage of the better airflow, and eventually get an AF regulator/meter, (SAFC?).
I dyno'd it after the port and polish and pulled
138.6 Hp at the wheels peak.
131.2 Lbs. Ft torque at the wheels peak.
The intake brought me up to about 144.? hp at the wheels and gave me more torque.
136 Lbs. Ft torque.
The problem was that the port and polish didn't really do squat until about 3600 rpm when the air gets going so I have a first gear lag, which is why until I got the intake my 0-60 was rated "7.4" even though I still pulled in 15.6 at the 1/4. My friend let me use his slicks at the track and I pulled 15.5, but I don't have slicks so I lose .3 at the track with my street tires. When I got the cold air intake, I got better air flow off the line and in later rpm, so I turned in a 0-60 of about 7.2.
I'm sure with a header, exhaust set up, and 3 angle valves, I'll get pretty good horsepower gains.
Stock specs...
125 HP to the crank
128 LBs. Ft. Torque
1.8L DOHC VVTi motor, 5 speed transmission
1ZZ-FE (same engine as the Celica GT, just de-tuned)
Basically the 2000-Up Corolla's were given the same engine as the new Celica GT, except with different cams, exhaust, intake manifold and ECU.
That's why cam-regrounds make a bigger difference on my car than on the Celica GT's, because my cams have a much lower lift.
The DOHC VVTi, is similar to Vtec, but without the huge lift at 5000 rpm, it's a constant change in valves opening throughout all rpm, the Celica GTS has something like I-VTEC, VVTLi, so it has my VVT-i, but with a lift.

s2corolla- ok great whatever u got port and polish job and gained around 25 horspower and 13 torque gain...that seems alil high for just a port and polish buh if u say so then whatever koo...buh don think ur the shit and say u could take a civic si, v6 honda accord...cauz now ur juss trippn...first of all, si have a big advantage over u bcauz of stickshift...if they kno how to drive a stick shift then they'll beat u...think about it for a second...if i waz to race u in a bone stock si or gsr i juss get my launch right and im in vtec range the from 1st to 4gear...and for corolla's, even though u have a max of 138 hp and 131lbs torque, ur power band is weak...that plays a big factor if u kno what im talkn about..its koo that ur bein original and modifying a corolla...the potential of ANY motor can b great if built properly buh don think ur all that cauz u ain't in the civic si range...trust me on that, the peeps that may have raced u probably don kno how to race...and however much u modify ur car u'll alwayz lose about .3 to .6 seconds of time cauz ur car is auto...

ludeboi all the top drag race cars use automatics. a good automatic is better than a manual for a drag race. and please stop typing in ebonics it just makes it harder to read.

ldelaysionl- i ain't a dumb fuk, i kno most top drag race cars use automatic buh is his corolla a drag race car?? mayb he use's it to drag race, buh ain't no way in hell his car is a drag car with a intake and port and polish and that isn't gonna help against a stickshift retard..how about u go get is300 automatic and i'll drive a is300 stick shift and we'll go to the drags and race...who u think will win...thass what i thought...and if u can't read my post's cauz i write in ebonics, then to bad...either read slowly or don read it at all...

u said...

Originally posted by ludeb0i
and however much u modify ur car u'll alwayz lose about .3 to .6 seconds of time cauz ur car is auto...

so i said a good auto is better for a drag race. i didnt say the stock auto is better, of course with only intake and exhaust the stick corolla will be faster thats why i said a good auto cuz u said no matter how much he modifys he will lose time cuz its auto.