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luti
03-14-2002, 07:24 PM
I went to the local import store and tried to talk to the man behind the counter about buying a short shifter. Unfortuanetly he didn't seem to want to talk to me much, and refused to tell me anything about the shifters they had in the case, but he seemed very adamant on selling me a DC short shifter. He said that they could install it there, and would perform some "special mod" to it to make it better. I told him I was more than capable of installing my own shifter (how hard could it be, right?), but he said they "mod" would make the shifter much smoother and better, but would only tell me its some special bushing they add to it.

Well, after that extremely long intro here are my questions:
First, is it possible to add some bushing and other 'magical' part to make it that much better?
and
Second, is the shifter worth the $55 they sell it for plus the $75 the charge for installation?
and
Third, is the DC short shifter, any good, or is it worth spending more for a nicer shifter?

Thanks in advance,
Luti

kidrocket
03-14-2002, 07:58 PM
hes feeding you a line of shit. install it yourself

JRuner1
03-15-2002, 11:44 AM
i've heard that you just need to check to see where the little round joint thing is on the shifter. the lower it is, the shorter the shift. but yeah i heard that pretty much all of them are the same. my friend had a dc and i have this no name that i found on ebay and they both work the same. i've always been told that the short shifters are one of the few things that you are safe to go with no names on.

mellowboy
03-15-2002, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by luti
I went to the local import store and tried to talk to the man behind the counter about buying a short shifter. Unfortuanetly he didn't seem to want to talk to me much, and refused to tell me anything about the shifters they had in the case, but he seemed very adamant on selling me a DC short shifter. He said that they could install it there, and would perform some "special mod" to it to make it better. I told him I was more than capable of installing my own shifter (how hard could it be, right?), but he said they "mod" would make the shifter much smoother and better, but would only tell me its some special bushing they add to it.

Well, after that extremely long intro here are my questions:
First, is it possible to add some bushing and other 'magical' part to make it that much better?
and
Second, is the shifter worth the $55 they sell it for plus the $75 the charge for installation?
and
Third, is the DC short shifter, any good, or is it worth spending more for a nicer shifter?

Thanks in advance,
Luti

Hey sup man? You're from chicago rite? Well wat store did u go to? Yeh i got Dc Sports on mine and its short as hell! I paid a lil too much for mine though. It's not hard to install but sometimes it is. Depending on the bolts if its rusted or not. :)

mellowboy
03-15-2002, 11:51 AM
Yeh i forgot to add....u don't need no "special mod" to install them. Bushings are not necessary. The only thing with dc sports is that it MIGHT rub your exhaust pipe...no biggie though just readjust the piping if it happens.

kane2g
03-15-2002, 01:57 PM
I've seen something that DC sports makes for shifters, i dont know what it is (I dont car either i got auto) but its for shifter. maybe that was what they were talking about as the "other" mod.
P.S. i think its called shift stabilizer.

jOYRiDe
03-16-2002, 04:06 AM
install it yourself and save money. i aint never heard of a special mod for a shifter before in my life.
its pretty straight forward if u know what youre doing. it will possibly scrub against the exhaust pipe or the pipe cover, but with a little bending, it will be ok.
the bushings the shop guy may be talkng about could possibly be urethane bushing, but that is for sway bar/suspension setups..no point in having it for a shifter... grease is good enough. :coolguy:

kane2g
03-16-2002, 04:43 AM
i was thinking of this thing, but it seems to be for accords and preludes
http://www.dcsports.com/pictures/Works/SSA.jpg

jOYRiDe
03-16-2002, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by kane2g
i was thinking of this thing, but it seems to be for accords and preludes
http://www.dcsports.com/pictures/Works/SSA.jpg
thats probably a waste of money...whatever it is :D

luti
03-16-2002, 01:20 PM
Yes I am from Chicago, and I was in Evo on Touhy...

Btw... have you seen the "Blown Si" inside Drivers Image north on McCormick... that thing is fucking sweet as hell.

cybercrx00
03-16-2002, 01:51 PM
Actually that link was a short shifter for cable type shifter that the accords and prelude and now '01 and up civics and rsx's have. they work on a similar principle, just differently. As for name brands go, I did happen to have a $25 no name brand shifter break in half in my crx, but I just replaced it with another $25 no name one, it was still cheaper.

mellowboy
03-16-2002, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by luti
Yes I am from Chicago, and I was in Evo on Touhy...

Btw... have you seen the "Blown Si" inside Drivers Image north on McCormick... that thing is fucking sweet as hell.

Evo? No i never went there...is evolution cause theres a place like that on Arlington heights rd. Oh about that "blown" si .... i seen like atleast 5 of them so i don't know which one ur talkin about...i probably have seen it.Oh and they are all blue si' s;)

luti
03-17-2002, 02:38 AM
The place on Arlignton Heights Rd. is Drivers Image (I think), there are two of them. The one on McCormick has a car with the plates "Blown SI", its a yellow Civic Si. According to one of my friends who was in there talking to the employes (I only saw it through the window) it has $55,000 worth of mods on it. The body is completly custom, i couldn't even tell it was a Civic its so worked on.

If you go to www.driversimage.com (http://www.driversimage.com) it is the first and last car pictured in the scrowling intro page. Yes those are Toyota Supra headlights and S2000 taillights on it. They have 2 more pics of it on the next page and the Projects page, unfortuanetly you can't see much. It's a must see for all locals.

xodus917
03-17-2002, 04:34 AM
do it yourself. learn about your car and be one with it. have fun doing it.

mellowboy
03-17-2002, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by luti
The place on Arlignton Heights Rd. is Drivers Image (I think), there are two of them. The one on McCormick has a car with the plates "Blown SI", its a yellow Civic Si. According to one of my friends who was in there talking to the employes (I only saw it through the window) it has $55,000 worth of mods on it. The body is completly custom, i couldn't even tell it was a Civic its so worked on.

If you go to www.driversimage.com (http://www.driversimage.com) it is the first and last car pictured in the scrowling intro page. Yes those are Toyota Supra headlights and S2000 taillights on it. They have 2 more pics of it on the next page and the Projects page, unfortuanetly you can't see much. It's a must see for all locals.

No its evolution. I know wheres drivers image is at...by lincoln wood mall. Yeh i just order my stuff from my friend he gets things alot cheaper than them import stores..especially drivers image and apg.:)

cybercrx00
03-17-2002, 10:29 AM
I think I could think of a better way to spend $55,000 on a civic, that think looks kinda ugly from the 2 pics I saw. I guess I'm just a fan of the original civic design and don't see the need to go all out modifying it

mellowboy
03-17-2002, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by cybercrx00
I think I could think of a better way to spend $55,000 on a civic, that think looks kinda ugly from the 2 pics I saw. I guess I'm just a fan of the original civic design and don't see the need to go all out modifying it

Yeh same here man. 55 g's on a civic...?

luti
03-17-2002, 12:47 PM
Yeah $55,000 is a lot of cash, but i hear it runs 11's, and its completely streetable... I wouldn't spend the money, but I'd love to have that car (or possibly the money instead).

mellowboy
03-17-2002, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by luti
Yeah $55,000 is a lot of cash, but i hear it runs 11's, and its completely streetable... I wouldn't spend the money, but I'd love to have that car (or possibly the money instead).

Yeh i mean i wasnt tryin to dis his ride or him for that matter ...i just think 55,000 is alot of money thats been put to waste? Shit i hardly believe he runds 11's with all that stuff on it. Theres a guy that has a black gsr turbo powered rex that runs 11's with 10 g's on the motor. I would use that 55 g's on something useful.

91 converthedlight
05-08-2002, 09:39 AM
are the any sites to show you how to install a short shifters cause i don't have no clue....

kidrocket
05-08-2002, 12:00 PM
you can accomplish that with a lot less than 55k.

of course it helps to work at a shop, and get parts at cost.

free installation rules

justin knows who im talking about

NuEra
07-11-2002, 06:05 PM
dont get a dc "short" shifter. the only short-shifter on the market that is worth buying is the one made by neuspeed. Neuspeed invented the shortshifter which was designed to shorten the throw. all others, and i mean all others, only shorten the height of the stick and might make it a little smoother. Neuspeeds' wont hit any exhaust sheilds under your car and it shortens the throw by, I think 40%, check their site. Sure it costs a lot more than the others but you get what you pay for.

ViGGa2LO
07-12-2002, 03:08 PM
do it yourself, i guarantee it will only take 5 more minutes for you to do it than dumdass behind the counter.. the hardest thing about that job is just getting to the actuall gear box

luti
07-12-2002, 03:27 PM
My biggest problem wasn't the gearbox, but getting all the bolts/nuts off, they were rusted on pretty solid. I used lots of liquid wrench and my propane torch came in handy. Careful not to break any bolts down there, they are a bitch to replace. Also, I bought a Skunk2 short shifter. Great quality, great lengh, and nice and heavy so its hard to miss shift. They cost a bit more than DC's, but I've never seen a good review of a DC anyway. Also make sure to get new urathane bushings, they make the shifter so nice and crisp feeling.

drift
07-13-2002, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by NuEra
dont get a dc "short" shifter. the only short-shifter on the market that is worth buying is the one made by neuspeed. Neuspeed invented the shortshifter which was designed to shorten the throw. all others, and i mean all others, only shorten the height of the stick and might make it a little smoother. Neuspeeds' wont hit any exhaust sheilds under your car and it shortens the throw by, I think 40%, check their site. Sure it costs a lot more than the others but you get what you pay for.


that's incorrect. all the short shifters on the market for 6th gen civics and 3rd gen tegs are true short shifters that change the position of the pivot ball to reduce the shifting throw.

neuspeed didn't create shit... B&M did it long before Neuspeed was even a company of it's own.

NuEra
07-21-2002, 10:46 PM
Sorry, I mean short-throw shifter. Neuspeed made this, the others such as B&M are plain short-shifters. They do reduce throw but not as much.

SmoovSol
07-25-2002, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by NuEra
dont get a dc "short" shifter. the only short-shifter on the market that is worth buying is the one made by neuspeed. Neuspeed invented the shortshifter which was designed to shorten the throw. all others, and i mean all others, only shorten the height of the stick and might make it a little smoother. Neuspeeds' wont hit any exhaust sheilds under your car and it shortens the throw by, I think 40%, check their site. Sure it costs a lot more than the others but you get what you pay for.

Lol, this guy is out of his mind. Neuspeed invented them? How about B&M have been doing them for 33 yearz and they invented them. As for quality, compare a b&M to a neuspeed. You will see what 33 yearz of producing and developement does, I have a delsol sol and if u have ever driven one u would know that the shifter is MUCH shorter then a civic due to the way the shift linkage is placed, and still my buddy's b&m reduces his by about 1/2, its rediculous how short it is.

NuEra
07-25-2002, 08:22 PM
Neuspeed claims;
NEUSPEED was the first to pioneer and develop the concept of a true shorter throw shift lever. All NEUSPEED shifter parts are solid, beefy units that can take all the fast shifts you can throw at them. You get faster, easier and more precise shifting with a NEUSPEED Short Shifter!

As a I said;
Sorry, I mean short-throw shifter. Neuspeed made this, the others such as B&M are plain short-shifters. They do reduce throw but not as much.

Can someone back me up here that has a neuspeed short-throw shifter.

drift
07-31-2002, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by NuEra
Neuspeed claims;


Can someone back me up here that has a neuspeed short-throw shifter.


Toyota also claims to be the first with Variable cam timing, but we all know BMW beat them out the door with VANOS, and Nissan had variable intake cam timing since 1990.

everyone "claims", but there's no proof. the only thing neuspeed can claim is the first short shifter for a VW.

PreludeToGreatness
08-24-2002, 10:39 PM
drift . . .

what is the best short shifter for my 95 lude?
thanks.

PreludeToGreatness
08-24-2002, 10:45 PM
drift . . .

what is the best short shifter for my 95 lude?
thanks.

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