are these subs good

are these subs any good or at least better than mtx roadthunder
http://www.a1discountcaraudio.com/viewItem.asp?idProduct=1409
if not what are some good 10's that i can get a couple of for under $200

first of all on these legacy subs. NOOOOO! I can tell just by looking at them their crap lol. IS your 200 dollar budget just for the subs, or the amp too. I hope its not both orelse ur out of luck. Wel anyways, i suggest getting one 12 sub from Re Audio, Image Dyanmics, Elemental designs or adire audio. Depending on your price range we can help you out even more. Are you going for SQ, SQL, OR SPL on the subs? Could you consider a higher budget?

the 200 is just for subs. i already have and 800 watt amp and a box for 10s because thats what ive had sice i got the car but i want subs that bump hard but still sound good

Check out the Infinity kappa or perfects, cost about $100 each, you will not be disappointed.

JL makes a good sub, then I would look at JBL, a $100 per sub budget is a great place to start.

Kt

are these subs any good or at least better than mtx roadthunder
http://www.a1discountcaraudio.com/viewItem.asp?idProduct=1409
if not what are some good 10's that i can get a couple of for under $200

The design on the sub is cool at least....

Infinities are overpriced and don't perform very well. Those Legacys are some of the worst speakers availbale. look into RE's RE series 10's (www.reaudio.com) and elemental design's K-series 10's (they call them 11's) (www.edesignaudio.com)

Exacly what kind of amp do you have?

Me? Avionixx 1200.2 on the subs..... soon to have an avionixx 400.2 for some comps...... They're definately not the best but they're good and cheap..... I eventually wanna get a cadence zrs-9 or zrs-10 for the subs or some mmats amps and somethin from phoenix gold, jlaudio, linear power or tru tech(yea right I;m no

Me? Avionixx 1200.2 on the subs..... soon to have an avionixx 400.2 for some comps...... They're definately not the best but they're good and cheap..... I eventually wanna get a cadence zrs-9 or zrs-10 for the subs or some mmats amps and somethin from phoenix gold, jlaudio, linear power or tru tech(yea right I'm not a billionare)

Exacly what kind of amp do you have?

i have a 800 watt boss amp that was given too me. my box is a dual bandpass box and this is going in a 97 eagle talon. thanks to all who help

i have a 800 watt boss amp that was given too me. my box is a dual bandpass box and this is going in a 97 eagle talon. thanks to all who help


haha dude.. i doubt anyone who reads this will suggest anything.. you cant just throw any 10" subs in a bandpass box... whatever you put in there is gonna sound like total ass. and as far as the amp goes.. itll prolly blow as soon as you get the subs.

sorry im nto trying to rag on what you have im just saying it would be a lot better to start from scratch. or at least get rid of the box and let us make some recommendations and then build/buy a sealed or ported box once you have the subs.

I'm so proud of everyone...... learnin so much!!! lol now me n sr20 don't hafta give all the responses (gsteg and haibane was missed lol)

Yeah I was just going to ask about the 800w amp. How does it make 800w? Do you have to put 30v. into it and is that for a nanosecond? Then I saw he's got the "boss" so I was right.

I know everyone has to start somewhere but try not to do it at the bottom!

No dude....... its called a lightning bolt amp....... if lighning struck the power input of the amp it would produced rated power for a millisecond before it blew up!!!! Come on u shoulda learned that in preschool.

No dude....... its called a lightning bolt amp....... if lighning struck the power input of the amp it would produced rated power for a millisecond before it blew up!!!! Come on u shoulda learned that in preschool.
Ahh, you are too funny :screwy:

didn't you ever wonder where lightning audio got their name from lmao...

what kind of subs work good in a bandpass box

none.. bandpasses are boxes that have to be VERY carefully desinged and they are specifically designed based on the parameters of the sub(s) you plan to run in it. AND even if you desing it correctly it usually still loses a ton of SQ because they are usually peaky and only sound good (loud) for a small range of frequencies.

SO.. basically even if you had a bandpass designed for the exact sub you want then i still wouldnt suggest it because i dont liek the way they sound. ..

but that box doesnt have any subs it was specifically designed for (im assuming) so its like a double no.

bandpasses CAN sound good...... they just don't 99.9% of the time. I usually keep enclosure choices limited to sealed ported and tlines.

none.. bandpasses are boxes that have to be VERY carefully desinged and they are specifically designed based on the parameters of the sub(s) you plan to run in it. AND even if you desing it correctly it usually still loses a ton of SQ because they are usually peaky and only sound good (loud) for a small range of frequencies.


you act like a professional couldnt even build a good bandpass box without luck. Yea, its true you dont just slap any subs into any b-pass box and get away with it, but, its not too hard to get a good combo. I've heard a 10 in a bandpass box, it was probably all of a cubic foot total. It had awesome SQ. It was a sub and box combo, though, so the box and sub were designed for each other, but its not like there are no 10's for 100$ that are made for bandpass boxes.

P.S. Not everything has to be expensive to sound good. Good is subjective, based on opinions, and someone with a boss amp may not appreciate the little differences that you think make something go from PIECE OF SHIT, to sounding great. And about it being a big difference.. that is subjective too, based on opinions. I respect all of your inputs on car audio, but you are all very predictable. RE, SE, Adire, ED, ..... those are not the only brands that people will be happy with. They may be better from a professional, or car audio nut's standpoint, but instead of telling somebody that Audiobahn and Rockford and MTX are all useless pieces of shit, you should explain that to them.

you act like a professional couldnt even build a good bandpass box without luck. Yea, its true you dont just slap any subs into any b-pass box and get away with it, but, its not too hard to get a good combo. I've heard a 10 in a bandpass box, it was probably all of a cubic foot total. It had awesome SQ. It was a sub and box combo, though, so the box and sub were designed for each other, but its not like there are no 10's for 100$ that are made for bandpass boxes.

P.S. Not everything has to be expensive to sound good. Good is subjective, based on opinions, and someone with a boss amp may not appreciate the little differences that you think make something go from PIECE OF SHIT, to sounding great. And about it being a big difference.. that is subjective too, based on opinions. I respect all of your inputs on car audio, but you are all very predictable. RE, SE, Adire, ED, ..... those are not the only brands that people will be happy with. They may be better from a professional, or car audio nut's standpoint, but instead of telling somebody that Audiobahn and Rockford and MTX are all useless pieces of shit, you should explain that to them.


DITTO. My first real system consisted of a Radion Targa amp and 2 Dr. Krankingstein 10" subs in a bandpass box. Being in an Ext. Cab S10, it sounded awesome. Now, take that same box and put it in a hatchback and it would sound terrible.

MTX, Fosgate and others in that line are good entry level pieces but not one thing is for everyone.

all im saying is i dont like bandpass at all.. as i have yet to hear one with decent SQ.. but..

i didnt mean to say anything too harsh about brands.. obviously.. my car started with all sony. haha and im still stuck with 2 speakers and a HU (although the HU isnt bad)..

im just saying youll never know how much power the amp is putting out and youll never know when its gonna blow if its a shitty brand.. if it works well for you then good for you. BUT.. while hes at this very early stage he might as well do some sort of an upgrade just to save him time and money

Me? Avionixx 1200.2 on the subs..... soon to have an avionixx 400.2 for some comps...... They're definately not the best but they're good and cheap..... I eventually wanna get a cadence zrs-9 or zrs-10 for the subs or some mmats amps and somethin from phoenix gold, jlaudio, linear power or tru tech(yea right I'm not a billionare)

Those Tru Techs aren't that much money. I was on their site checking them out and actually considering getting one for my front stage when I get those in. IS PG actually a decent company? Or are they a decent budget company?

Phoenix gold is pretty good. And check Tru's prices they're expensive as hell esp. for the t03's.