question about Boxster and some other things

hey what's up everybody, just had some questions because some guy I know was trying to tell me that the 2002 Boxster 6 cylinder is the best engine ever made... he was saying the Boxster does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds which I found very very hard to believe, I was looking online, I found a 0-60 time of 5.2 sec and a 60 back to 0 time of 2.7, but nothing about what he was saying to me... does anybody know of maybe hooked up Boxster that does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds maybe to justify what this guy was trying to tell me a little...

also I was also browsing the web, and I saw that a stock Skyline GT-R has 277 hp and does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, is this also true then that the stock Skyline is not really a supercar it is just that the only ones that we know about in the US are the really hooked up ones with like 700 hp, etc...

if you look harder. the 276hp is just what nissan puts down soo that they won't get harrassed by the government in japan. if you look at british gt-r websites. they have dyno's of their stock GT-R's. the stop R34 was in the range of 320's. and 319ft lb of torque of believe. i also see alot of videos of people launching stock skylines from 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. with 13 seconds flat quarter miles. to confirm the 0-60 in 4.7 seconds part. if you watch any BESTMOTORING international videos. they all test stock cars. and whenever they launch stock GT-R's they would get 13 flat or close to that on the quarter mile. sooo thats proof of the 4.7 second 0-60.

http://www.gtr.co.uk/ here is the link. click on the technical section and you will see.

yeah, okay I gotcha now, I somehow thought that the Skyline was a little faster than that, I am not really an import guy but that is a sweet sweet car

its okay for not knowing. atleast you asked before you started flaming. :D

0-60 2.6 sec ? No way - this is Formula territory !

PONTIAC GTX :flash:

i never saw the boxster as fast. i always see it as the slowest porsche from this day and age.

Originally posted by TatII
i never saw the boxster as fast. i always see it as the slowest porsche from this day and age.

I just came to a idea , maybe porsche started the whole SUV thing , so then boxster won't be seen as the "slow" or "cheap" porsche... Anyway the cayenne isn't really a porshce in my eyes , it's just another VW this time with a porsche slapped over it , with some better engine , another interior finish and 30,000$ more msrp i think it will be like that...

The boxster is the slowest Porsche now - but Porsche always had a slow porsche in the past - like the 944 (non Tbo) and the 968 in the 90's.

However - all are capable of at least low 15' time to high 14's. So there is slow and slow - it's not a station wagon either ! Oups... was'nt talking to a certain White Subaru Impreza ! :p

PONTIAC GTX :flash:

Well, Lets see. Last month I was looking at one of the trade rags I get and they discussed the RUF TURBO. This is a Porche this is highly customized to say the least and sells for very high dollars. It is touted as the fastest streetable Porche ever produced. 0 - 60 times were 3.6 sec and top end was 213. It is not based on a Boxter.

Originally posted by hjohnson
Well, Lets see. Last month I was looking at one of the trade rags I get and they discussed the RUF TURBO. This is a Porche this is highly customized to say the least and sells for very high dollars. It is touted as the fastest streetable Porche ever produced. 0 - 60 times were 3.6 sec and top end was 213. It is not based on a Boxter.

What's the point? The fastest street porsche btw is the dauer racing 962 Le mans with 2.7 0-100 kmh time (that should give 0-60 of around 2.5 - 2.6) and 406 kph top end (253.75 mph) We all know that the boxster is not the fastest and never will be...

Porsche GT2 All the way! That car is so sweet.

Originally posted by pbourgeois
The boxster is the slowest Porsche now - but Porsche always had a slow porsche in the past - like the 944 (non Tbo) and the 968 in the 90's.

However - all are capable of at least low 15' time to high 14's. So there is slow and slow - it's not a station wagon either ! Oups... was'nt talking to a certain White Subaru Impreza ! :p

PONTIAC GTX :flash:

what in the world are u talking about? that didnt make any sense at all to me except that u were referring to my car. :confused:

Hey,

I was refering to the fact that when we say these Porsches are slow, they are not really slow as a big 70's station wagon either - since low 15' for a car that is stock is fast. Someone with a stock Civic might think otherwise that they can smoke them... But then I remember you - and you're station wagon - you seem fast if your high 14' times are real - which seem to be by the way you talk, you don't seem to talk trash - that's all !

By the way - what does your mph look like when you do high 14' ?

PONTIAC GTX :flash:

oh i got ya. i thought u were insulting me somehow my bad :D

my mph through the 1000ft is about 80, all ive done through the 1/4 mile is street racing but we have a 1/4 mile marked off accurately, and im still on stock tires so i assume my speedometer is pretty accurate and it shows about 95-96 mph through the 1/4

you guys realize that the suv (cayenne) will be available w/ 450 hp tt v8 right? that would killa boxster... and it isnt the cheapest porsche either... the boxster is the baseline car... the suv is still more expensive, and i bet it'll be faster with that bigass motor...

Originally posted by ldelaysionl
oh i got ya. i thought u were insulting me somehow my bad :D

my mph through the 1000ft is about 80, all ive done through the 1/4 mile is street racing but we have a 1/4 mile marked off accurately, and im still on stock tires so i assume my speedometer is pretty accurate and it shows about 95-96 mph through the 1/4

Sorry but... I must say here that you should NOT estimate your time based on these facts alone. hey, a second is fast gone ! Now I'm not saying you don't do high 14' with your car - but beware of the challenge you made base on those assumptions... if somebody want to take you on the track - and you bet a win based on your high 14', you may lose some money...

Some little thing here :

How do you calculate your time ? With a watch ? That is very innacurate. Like I said, a second is fast gone, and there is no way a human reflex is as near as precise as an electronic device...
Now if you calculate your time based on HP,distance and speed, that is a different story. But here again, a slight difference in the marking for the 1/4 mile make a huge difference in the time...

Be also aware that some FWD/RWD cars that you might beat on the street with your 4wd won't be beatable on a drag strip, because now they got traction ! With a 4wd w/o a lot of HP (400+), the time in the street is very much the same at the track. That is why the WRX above (or was it in another post) could not manage a better time than 14'4.


Now, what mods do you have ?

IN Road and Track magazine, a Tbo Impreza WRX does the 1/4 in 14.4, with 227hp, 65 more than you have stock. Some have gone high 13's, with just a few mods. Car&Driver list the 2.5 Impreza at 16.4, now this is in 97 I don't know if Subaru change the power or something else since then. I know these cars will benefit a lot from header/cat change.

PONTIAC GTX :sun:

i get my 1/4 mile time based upon my 1000ft time, put into a conversion formula that is supposed to give u 1/4 mile time based upon your 1000ft time, im not dumb enough to do it with a stopwatch... i myself have doubts about the actuality of running a high 14, BUT thats what the conversion says, and thats all i have to go by... i actually estimate more along a 15.1-15.2, but the formula says 14.9

Originally posted by pbourgeois
Be also aware that some FWD/RWD cars that you might beat on the street with your 4wd won't be beatable on a drag strip, because now they got traction !

believe me i am VERY aware of this, when i race somebody on the street i like to discreetly lead them to somewhere with some loose gritty sand on the ground or something like that.

and theres this truck here in town, he can beat me at the strip but i take him almost every time on the street.

Originally posted by pbourgeois
IN Road and Track magazine, a Tbo Impreza WRX does the 1/4 in 14.4, with 227hp, 65 more than you have stock. Some have gone high 13's, with just a few mods.

and wrxs can and have hit 13's stock.

goin back to the original subject. yes 15 seconds is not slow for a stock car. but its slow as hell for porsche standards. esp for a car that cost around 60g's.

Originally posted by TatII
if you look harder. the 276hp is just what nissan puts down soo that they won't get harrassed by the government in japan. if you look at british gt-r websites. they have dyno's of their stock GT-R's. the stop R34 was in the range of 320's. and 319ft lb of torque of believe. i also see alot of videos of people launching stock skylines from 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. with 13 seconds flat quarter miles. to confirm the 0-60 in 4.7 seconds part. if you watch any BESTMOTORING international videos. they all test stock cars. and whenever they launch stock GT-R's they would get 13 flat or close to that on the quarter mile. sooo thats proof of the 4.7 second 0-60.

i got vids of them doing 0 - 200 in 13.75 seconds but those are modified beyond all reasonable common sense obviously their's is telling them 200 mph is slow so we have to get there fast