Paint stripping time?
Mustangman25
01-27-2005, 06:02 PM
I'm going to strip the paint off of my Hot Wheels Civic Si to repaint with CSC, but need to know how long it will actually take for the paint to strip? Minutes, hours, days? Thanks in advance!
Skribble.designs
01-27-2005, 06:33 PM
What are you going to be using for stripping the paint.
This works with some paints - "My current favorite for removing commercial paint jobs from models is none other than spray-on oven cleaner. That's right! I use a no-name brand of oven cleaner that's extremely cheap, and which works quite well. Any traditional spray on oven cleaner should work. If it has a "caustic" warning label on it (a skeleton hand) then it will remove paint quite nicely. First remove the shell from the wheels and base and remove any clear plastic parts from the shell, such as windows and headlights or mask them well.. The chemicals may cause them to permanently fog up. Use a base plate or shallow pan of some kind (one that isn't valuable), put the model on it spraying it liberally with oven cleaner. Remember to run a test on the inside of the shell first. Now walk away and leave the shell for several hours. When you come back rinse the shell under warm running water, while at the same time scrubbing it with a stiff bristled toothbrush or other small brush."
Other items can take from 3 minutes to several hours. It depends.
This works with some paints - "My current favorite for removing commercial paint jobs from models is none other than spray-on oven cleaner. That's right! I use a no-name brand of oven cleaner that's extremely cheap, and which works quite well. Any traditional spray on oven cleaner should work. If it has a "caustic" warning label on it (a skeleton hand) then it will remove paint quite nicely. First remove the shell from the wheels and base and remove any clear plastic parts from the shell, such as windows and headlights or mask them well.. The chemicals may cause them to permanently fog up. Use a base plate or shallow pan of some kind (one that isn't valuable), put the model on it spraying it liberally with oven cleaner. Remember to run a test on the inside of the shell first. Now walk away and leave the shell for several hours. When you come back rinse the shell under warm running water, while at the same time scrubbing it with a stiff bristled toothbrush or other small brush."
Other items can take from 3 minutes to several hours. It depends.
Mustangman25
01-27-2005, 07:29 PM
with CSC
CSC :smile: I want to use CSC as it's the only thing I have right now, but I'd assume that it'll probably be the same as, or similar to oven cleaner. Thanks for the quick response :smile:
CSC :smile: I want to use CSC as it's the only thing I have right now, but I'd assume that it'll probably be the same as, or similar to oven cleaner. Thanks for the quick response :smile:
Skribble.designs
01-27-2005, 09:43 PM
CSC. You can't you'll destroy the atmosphere :P.
This is from Paintingclinic.com - Comparing the stripping power of CSC and Pinesol. Tells rough cleaning times though.
"Method:
I have eight miniatures, seven plastic and one pewter. I will place them in plastic containers, and place equal amounts of each substance in each. Then I will place 4 miniatures into each mix (the pewter figure went into the CSC). I will then observe the effects have on each figure, and will attempt to clean the figures at random times.
Observations:
1 hour. Noticeable lift of paint on the CSC models, slight lifting on the Pinesol figures.
3 hours. No noticeable change from above.
6 hours. First random scrubbing. One figure was selected at random from each container. Neither just washed clean. The CSC figure came mostly clean, leaving paint only in smaller recesses and very hard to reach places. The Pinesol figure came partially clean, leaving several patches untouched, and a lot of paint in the details, like those on the pack. The Pinesol figure also lost his pack and left arm (they became unglued). Figures are returned to their respective solutions.
8 « -9 hours. 2nd scrubbing. CSC figures were cleaned first. Three of the figures saw large parts of their paint removed when just placed under the water flow. The pewter figure was removed almost clean, and when placed under the water flow all but a few small spots were clean. Light scrubbing removed these, and the figure "looked as good as new." The figure that received the 1st scrubbing was found to be "clean enough," in that what little was left wouldn't affect future painting. The other two figures were also like the previous figure, but were returned to the solution "to see how clean they could get." (Note one of those two has heavy staining from previous paintings, it's believed these stains are in the plastic itself)
The Pinesol when initially place under the water flow saw no change. When placed close to the water flow, they saw large parts of the paint fall way, but not to the extent of the CSC figures. Upon scrubbing the majority of the paint was removed, but not to a satisfactory degree. There is still to much paint left on for a repainting. Plus another figure became unglued during scrubbing.
10 hours. 3rd scrubbing. CSC, the two remaining figures in the solution are now in paintable condition, but will remain in the solution to see if the "stains" might come out. One figure, from the CSC group, has now fallen apart during the scrubbing. All four Pinesol figures are near paintable condition, but there are several places which are proving difficult. There areas include around the neck of the marine, and around the abdomen, not the groin. Figures continue to fall
apart in this group. Interesting note on this is that several of the Pinesol figures have had minor conversions preformed upon them, the reconstructed joints haven't given way, it's been the regular joints that have failed.
Now for the overnight soak.
19 « hours. Remaining figures removed from bathe and scrubbed. CSC figures are almost completely clean, with paint only remaining the most difficult spaces (between torso and shoulder pad), even the backs were clean. The one with the stains remains stained. No further "ungluing." The Pinesol figures weren't as fortunate. There was no further "ungluing" in these either, but there was moderate benefits from the extended soak. Some of the figures will require cleaning with the dental pick, and fine details, like the packs, saw little to no improvement.
In a attempt to prove that the paint that remained on the Pinesol figures was not "unstrippable" (as is often the case with stripping miniatures, that not all the paint can be removed), they were immersed in the same CSC solution as was used on the CSC figures. After approximately 9 hours immersed, the figures were again scrubbed, and were found to be satisfactorily clean."
This is from Paintingclinic.com - Comparing the stripping power of CSC and Pinesol. Tells rough cleaning times though.
"Method:
I have eight miniatures, seven plastic and one pewter. I will place them in plastic containers, and place equal amounts of each substance in each. Then I will place 4 miniatures into each mix (the pewter figure went into the CSC). I will then observe the effects have on each figure, and will attempt to clean the figures at random times.
Observations:
1 hour. Noticeable lift of paint on the CSC models, slight lifting on the Pinesol figures.
3 hours. No noticeable change from above.
6 hours. First random scrubbing. One figure was selected at random from each container. Neither just washed clean. The CSC figure came mostly clean, leaving paint only in smaller recesses and very hard to reach places. The Pinesol figure came partially clean, leaving several patches untouched, and a lot of paint in the details, like those on the pack. The Pinesol figure also lost his pack and left arm (they became unglued). Figures are returned to their respective solutions.
8 « -9 hours. 2nd scrubbing. CSC figures were cleaned first. Three of the figures saw large parts of their paint removed when just placed under the water flow. The pewter figure was removed almost clean, and when placed under the water flow all but a few small spots were clean. Light scrubbing removed these, and the figure "looked as good as new." The figure that received the 1st scrubbing was found to be "clean enough," in that what little was left wouldn't affect future painting. The other two figures were also like the previous figure, but were returned to the solution "to see how clean they could get." (Note one of those two has heavy staining from previous paintings, it's believed these stains are in the plastic itself)
The Pinesol when initially place under the water flow saw no change. When placed close to the water flow, they saw large parts of the paint fall way, but not to the extent of the CSC figures. Upon scrubbing the majority of the paint was removed, but not to a satisfactory degree. There is still to much paint left on for a repainting. Plus another figure became unglued during scrubbing.
10 hours. 3rd scrubbing. CSC, the two remaining figures in the solution are now in paintable condition, but will remain in the solution to see if the "stains" might come out. One figure, from the CSC group, has now fallen apart during the scrubbing. All four Pinesol figures are near paintable condition, but there are several places which are proving difficult. There areas include around the neck of the marine, and around the abdomen, not the groin. Figures continue to fall
apart in this group. Interesting note on this is that several of the Pinesol figures have had minor conversions preformed upon them, the reconstructed joints haven't given way, it's been the regular joints that have failed.
Now for the overnight soak.
19 « hours. Remaining figures removed from bathe and scrubbed. CSC figures are almost completely clean, with paint only remaining the most difficult spaces (between torso and shoulder pad), even the backs were clean. The one with the stains remains stained. No further "ungluing." The Pinesol figures weren't as fortunate. There was no further "ungluing" in these either, but there was moderate benefits from the extended soak. Some of the figures will require cleaning with the dental pick, and fine details, like the packs, saw little to no improvement.
In a attempt to prove that the paint that remained on the Pinesol figures was not "unstrippable" (as is often the case with stripping miniatures, that not all the paint can be removed), they were immersed in the same CSC solution as was used on the CSC figures. After approximately 9 hours immersed, the figures were again scrubbed, and were found to be satisfactorily clean."
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