mazda rx-8 vs. gtp comp g
MagniloquentFeller
01-25-2005, 12:23 AM
Hello, i got an upcoming race with a rx-8. I have a 04 comp g with no modifications what so ever. i looked up the rx-8's stats (motortrend) and i found out that its 0-60 time is half a second quicker. I was thinking, the motor trend test for the rx-8 was done by a porfessional who knows how to shift accurately. So maybe this kid that i will race will not know how to shift right(6 speed). I dont know should i wait till i get some mods or should i just go through with it. There is a 1000 dollar bet on it. He is probably joking though.
93_R/T_TT_Stealth
01-25-2005, 09:03 PM
well this is some stats for u to look at ....
Report for 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
Obtained from MT December, 1999
0-60: 6.8 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 15.1
1/4 Speed: 91
other information N/A
Report for 2004 Mazda RX-8
Obtained from R&T April, 2003
0-60: 5.9 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.5
1/4 Speed: 96
0-30 2.1
0-40: 3.2
0-50: 4.5
0-70: 8
0-80: 10
0-90: 12.8
0-100: 15.9
0-110:
0-120:
0-130: 33.5
0-140:
0-150:
0-160:
does that help at all?
well ya they have a professional driver do the tests until they feel that is the best they can do.. and or get outa the car without destroying it.
acually with a six speed he will be shifting more than u - he will be goin through his gears faster but will be able to pull out the gears longer after 2nd gear - cause the ratio will change - the frist 2 gears are quick in those cars - the rotory engine is pretty impressive afraid to say it to ya but u will prob get beat if he is a good driver n doesnt mis shift.... i even though i love GP's an love mine - if u are stock u gonna 90% get beat..... ok i'll let u borrow my twin turbo aslong i stay in the passenger seat with a gun case u crash- 0-60 in 4.8 its quick u will rape him with it ... does 135 just in 3rd gear lol -- any how good luck do some under hood mods real fast an get any kind of time knock ya can!!
Report for 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
Obtained from MT December, 1999
0-60: 6.8 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 15.1
1/4 Speed: 91
other information N/A
Report for 2004 Mazda RX-8
Obtained from R&T April, 2003
0-60: 5.9 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.5
1/4 Speed: 96
0-30 2.1
0-40: 3.2
0-50: 4.5
0-70: 8
0-80: 10
0-90: 12.8
0-100: 15.9
0-110:
0-120:
0-130: 33.5
0-140:
0-150:
0-160:
does that help at all?
well ya they have a professional driver do the tests until they feel that is the best they can do.. and or get outa the car without destroying it.
acually with a six speed he will be shifting more than u - he will be goin through his gears faster but will be able to pull out the gears longer after 2nd gear - cause the ratio will change - the frist 2 gears are quick in those cars - the rotory engine is pretty impressive afraid to say it to ya but u will prob get beat if he is a good driver n doesnt mis shift.... i even though i love GP's an love mine - if u are stock u gonna 90% get beat..... ok i'll let u borrow my twin turbo aslong i stay in the passenger seat with a gun case u crash- 0-60 in 4.8 its quick u will rape him with it ... does 135 just in 3rd gear lol -- any how good luck do some under hood mods real fast an get any kind of time knock ya can!!
MagniloquentFeller
01-26-2005, 10:02 AM
rape him lol
bcreverend
01-26-2005, 11:57 AM
with that much money on the line you should consider at least puting some modifications into the car...a smaller pulley, u-bend delete, and an intake won't run you that much and give you a significantly better chance....
MIGTPGUY
01-26-2005, 06:01 PM
04-??? GTP are not the same engine as previous generation. There for any 0-60 time off a 2000 GTP is not going to be the same as a 2004
BIG-L
01-26-2005, 06:31 PM
04-??? GTP are not the same engine as previous generation. There for any 0-60 time off a 2000 GTP is not going to be the same as a 2004
Motor Trend
Comp G
0-60: 6.2
Didnt list a 1/4 mile time
Just drop down the pulley to a 3.3 pulley boys modular system and get a CAI and go kill him out of the hole.
Comp G's dont have a u-bend
Motor Trend
Comp G
0-60: 6.2
Didnt list a 1/4 mile time
Just drop down the pulley to a 3.3 pulley boys modular system and get a CAI and go kill him out of the hole.
Comp G's dont have a u-bend
kustomkid54
01-26-2005, 06:52 PM
Well Larry,
I looked at my map. Your only about 15" from him. Why don't you drive over and race the guy for him? I'd go, but your 1" closer.
Well it was just a thought.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/p0000000138.jpg
Motor Trend
Comp G
0-60: 6.2
Didnt list a 1/4 mile time
Just drop down the pulley to a 3.3 pulley boys modular system and get a CAI and go kill him out of the hole.
Comp G's dont have a u-bend
I looked at my map. Your only about 15" from him. Why don't you drive over and race the guy for him? I'd go, but your 1" closer.
Well it was just a thought.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/p0000000138.jpg
Motor Trend
Comp G
0-60: 6.2
Didnt list a 1/4 mile time
Just drop down the pulley to a 3.3 pulley boys modular system and get a CAI and go kill him out of the hole.
Comp G's dont have a u-bend
BIG-L
01-26-2005, 07:03 PM
He is from NY,your a hell of alot closer then I'am :wink:
Jim you said you smoke,what brand???I always get cupons in the mail.I remember buying them in the Army for a quater a pack,now look what we are paying for them.How much are they a pack down there??
~Larry~
Jim you said you smoke,what brand???I always get cupons in the mail.I remember buying them in the Army for a quater a pack,now look what we are paying for them.How much are they a pack down there??
~Larry~
kustomkid54
01-26-2005, 08:20 PM
Didn't like the 15" part? Thought it was funny.
Been smoking Marlboro's for 40 years. When I was in the Army you could a pack for 18 cents!!! With taxes in Florida, they are $25.66. In Michigan right now they are $45.00. Canada is like $65.00.
I'll stay down here till I quite. OR die.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/p0000000138.jpg
He is from NY,your a hell of alot closer then I'am :wink:
Jim you said you smoke,what brand???I always get cupons in the mail.I remember buying them in the Army for a quater a pack,now look what we are paying for them.How much are they a pack down there??
~Larry~
Been smoking Marlboro's for 40 years. When I was in the Army you could a pack for 18 cents!!! With taxes in Florida, they are $25.66. In Michigan right now they are $45.00. Canada is like $65.00.
I'll stay down here till I quite. OR die.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/p0000000138.jpg
He is from NY,your a hell of alot closer then I'am :wink:
Jim you said you smoke,what brand???I always get cupons in the mail.I remember buying them in the Army for a quater a pack,now look what we are paying for them.How much are they a pack down there??
~Larry~
BIG-L
01-26-2005, 08:49 PM
Im not sure how much a carton is here,I think around 45 bucks.I get a lot of cupons for mine on single pack's and one store I go to,it's about 6.48 for 2 packs with the cupon.I need to find someone in the armed forces that could buy some from the PX :lol:
kustomkid54
01-26-2005, 09:05 PM
OK, let's start this over....
Larry,
Can you help JEFF with this. He's in the NAVY and has this elec. trouble.
Boy you two need each other.
Or send me the money, I'll ship them from here.
Cartons are always cheaper.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/Part2025.jpg
Im not sure how much a carton is here,I think around 45 bucks.I get a lot of cupons for mine on single pack's and one store I go to,it's about 6.48 for 2 packs with the cupon.I need to find someone in the armed forces that could buy some from the PX :lol:
Larry,
Can you help JEFF with this. He's in the NAVY and has this elec. trouble.
Boy you two need each other.
Or send me the money, I'll ship them from here.
Cartons are always cheaper.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/Part2025.jpg
Im not sure how much a carton is here,I think around 45 bucks.I get a lot of cupons for mine on single pack's and one store I go to,it's about 6.48 for 2 packs with the cupon.I need to find someone in the armed forces that could buy some from the PX :lol:
BIG-L
01-26-2005, 09:16 PM
Hey....nice tips
Is it my pc/connection or does it take awhile to open this site???Ive got Broadband and I dont seem to have a problem with other sites
Is it my pc/connection or does it take awhile to open this site???Ive got Broadband and I dont seem to have a problem with other sites
kustomkid54
01-26-2005, 09:36 PM
Been having that same trouble. I have DSL and this is the only site I'm having trouble with.
Like those tips? Told you I'd get them. Found out how much this guy took off the car before I bought it. I think I'll find him, and...
Found this on a site. Love the "old head"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/p0000000138.jpg
Hey....nice tips
Is it my pc/connection or does it take awhile to open this site???Ive got Broadband and I dont seem to have a problem with other sites
Like those tips? Told you I'd get them. Found out how much this guy took off the car before I bought it. I think I'll find him, and...
Found this on a site. Love the "old head"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/p0000000138.jpg
Hey....nice tips
Is it my pc/connection or does it take awhile to open this site???Ive got Broadband and I dont seem to have a problem with other sites
MagniloquentFeller
01-27-2005, 10:46 AM
Ok, i decided to begin modding the gp. I was thinking about buying the wizaired cai from zzperformance, 3.2 or 3.35 pulley, ngk spark plugs, 180 degree thermostats.Will these applications leave me with any KR?
BIG-L
01-27-2005, 11:38 AM
Will these applications leave me with any KR?
Every car acts different,to be on the safe side Id stick with the 3.30 on a Comp G.They dont make a 3.35.Only way to know if you have KR,would be to have a scanner.
Stay away from the NGK plugs,nothing but problems on our car's.If you dont mind changing plugs offten,then you could go with the Copper core Autolites part # 605 they are 1 colder.I like the AC-Delco platinum 41-932's gapped @ 0.058 they are 1 colder also and will last a lot longer.
~Larry~
Every car acts different,to be on the safe side Id stick with the 3.30 on a Comp G.They dont make a 3.35.Only way to know if you have KR,would be to have a scanner.
Stay away from the NGK plugs,nothing but problems on our car's.If you dont mind changing plugs offten,then you could go with the Copper core Autolites part # 605 they are 1 colder.I like the AC-Delco platinum 41-932's gapped @ 0.058 they are 1 colder also and will last a lot longer.
~Larry~
MikeLee2484
01-27-2005, 11:43 AM
There is a 1000 dollar bet on it. He is probably joking though.
you should probably find out for sure if that bet is for real before you do anything...just throwing that out there...oh and maybe knowing if he has any mods would be good as well...after all knowledge is half the battle (thanks G.I. Joe)
you should probably find out for sure if that bet is for real before you do anything...just throwing that out there...oh and maybe knowing if he has any mods would be good as well...after all knowledge is half the battle (thanks G.I. Joe)
MagniloquentFeller
01-27-2005, 09:53 PM
oops, that was a typo, i meant for it to read 3.25 pulley instead of 3.35. So your saying a 3.3 would be fine with the cai and the plugs and thermostats would be fine for the meantime? To your experience, would the car have KR with that pulley?
MagniloquentFeller
01-28-2005, 10:29 AM
Hmmm. To the best of your experience, do you think adding this pulley will be bad? i didnt mean 3.35, it was a typo. I meant 3.25. I just dont want to take power away. What pulley are you running on your gp?
kustomkid54
01-28-2005, 10:41 AM
Mike,
Your right. Knowledge is half of the battle.
If this guy really wants to run for a $1000.00. I'd say he is 100% sure he is going to win.
I don't think I'd try to figure out what to put in MY car. I'd find out what he has put in HIS.
Save your money. With that $1000.00 you can do a lot of mods to your's.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/p0000000138.jpg
you should probably find out for sure if that bet is for real before you do anything...just throwing that out there...oh and maybe knowing if he has any mods would be good as well...after all knowledge is half the battle (thanks G.I. Joe)
Your right. Knowledge is half of the battle.
If this guy really wants to run for a $1000.00. I'd say he is 100% sure he is going to win.
I don't think I'd try to figure out what to put in MY car. I'd find out what he has put in HIS.
Save your money. With that $1000.00 you can do a lot of mods to your's.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/p0000000138.jpg
you should probably find out for sure if that bet is for real before you do anything...just throwing that out there...oh and maybe knowing if he has any mods would be good as well...after all knowledge is half the battle (thanks G.I. Joe)
goldinsuprize04gtp
11-19-2005, 05:04 PM
Hello, i got an upcoming race with a rx-8. I have a 04 comp g with no modifications what so ever. i looked up the rx-8's stats (motortrend) and i found out that its 0-60 time is half a second quicker. I was thinking, the motor trend test for the rx-8 was done by a porfessional who knows how to shift accurately. So maybe this kid that i will race will not know how to shift right(6 speed). I dont know should i wait till i get some mods or should i just go through with it. There is a 1000 dollar bet on it. He is probably joking though.
ok ok rx 8 are cool cars but it is not a gtp
i run 14.2 all day long
i have a k&n oem replacement fliter
and flowmaster
rx-8 just call him smoked rice
ok ok rx 8 are cool cars but it is not a gtp
i run 14.2 all day long
i have a k&n oem replacement fliter
and flowmaster
rx-8 just call him smoked rice
BLKCOMPG
11-20-2005, 04:03 AM
RX8..... SMARRRRRX8?????? Been there beat that.... If he is completely stock you shouldn't have to much of a problem. I raced one another night and I had him about 2.5 car lengths in a 3rd of a mile (IT WAS 37 DEGREES OUTSIDE). He did take off pretty quick though. All I have on my Comp G is a K&N Air charger kit and a SLP Catback exhaust system and some good practice at making my push button shifts. I would ask him to do it for kicks. 1000 is steeepp!
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