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how can i make a car faster but without any engine mods?????


Dasicvtec
01-24-2005, 06:02 AM
hey guys

i was just wondering what i could to do (my future car) to make it faster without doing any enigne mods??

My future car will b either a EF civic or crx - for sure

im trying to plan it out now so ill have less dramas when i get the car

im guessing some suspension upgrades, brake upgrades ( to make it stop faster lol) umm also stripping of unneccessary weight, aero body kit parts ?? oh yeah and mayba better drivetrain setup ?

so yeh thats about it, but in general just for like any car how would u make it faster without any engine mods

thanks in advance

PS. this is not a span thread i really need to know

5gcivic
01-24-2005, 06:08 AM
hey guys

i was just wondering what i could to do (my future car) to make it faster without doing any enigne mods??

My future car will b either a EF civic or crx - for sure

im trying to plan it out now so ill have less dramas when i get the car

im guessing some suspension upgrades, brake upgrades ( to make it stop faster lol) umm also stripping of unneccessary weight, aero body kit parts ?? oh yeah and mayba better drivetrain setup ?

so yeh thats about it, but in general just for like any car how would u make it faster without any engine mods

thanks in advance

PS. this is not a span thread i really need to know
NITROUS. But you would only be able to run a max of 50shot on a stock engine.

Onimacus
01-24-2005, 06:27 AM
whats wrong with engine mods? I don't know what you expect to race with no engine mods....

icE_x
01-24-2005, 06:46 AM
nitrous would be the only way to get much hp out of that engine, without any sort of n/a setup or forced induction setup

Civic Jim
01-24-2005, 07:33 AM
lightweight rims too if ur going that way,

Dasicvtec
01-24-2005, 08:24 AM
well im planning on putting a b16a in it after i get it

i just dont wanna do any engine mods yet becuase i wanna c how the car handles and i wanna tweak things to make it handle better first then run some times and then compare those times to the b16a

that way i can have fun

dmbrisket 51
01-24-2005, 10:29 AM
street legal or dirt trak?
do the b swap, take out windows, replace with plexi glass, seats, finish pannels, every thing not 110% nessicary if its for a track, if not, if its street driven, then do the b swap and suspention, then see if it weighs to much

turtlecrxsi
01-24-2005, 10:39 AM
Plexiglass scratches very easy... not worth it IMO. If he was going for strictly track use lexan.

badboyzkustumz
01-24-2005, 11:39 AM
plexiglass breaks way too easily...lexan is the way to go.

CBURKE
01-24-2005, 12:04 PM
yeah but you can make your own plexiglass side windos, and your not gonna use it for the front window so it can't get broken that easy. take everything out you don't need. If the air is broke take it out, loss the spare tire, no need for all them seats one will do. good luck on the back seat lol. if your gonna use a b16a the go noz and 75sht it.

BLU CIVIC
01-24-2005, 03:59 PM
i was gonna say live at the top of a hill...but i forgot that u had to go back home

pika
01-24-2005, 04:00 PM
why cant you engine mod, out of curiousity

icE_x
01-24-2005, 04:04 PM
maybe he doesn't know how to work on the engine himself? or he doesn't feel like bringin it to a shop? i'm kinda like that about engines, i have no idea how to work on one...i know the parts etc, but i'd be too afraid i'd break something so i'd get a shop to do it

jeef
01-24-2005, 04:40 PM
why cant you engine mod, out of curiousity

well im planning on putting a b16a in it after i get it

i just dont wanna do any engine mods yet becuase i wanna c how the car handles and i wanna tweak things to make it handle better first then run some times and then compare those times to the b16a



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icE_x
01-24-2005, 04:57 PM
making an engine fast without engine mods is...impossible

slipknotcraig133
01-24-2005, 05:15 PM
You can make your car run better with ajustments but you can only ajust a few things. There are some real easy mods to do. Like an intake. All it really is is taking out your old intake and putting in the new one. A few clamps.

bambam89lx
01-24-2005, 05:39 PM
get some super cool fast and the furious decals on the side of the car!
:thumbsup:

dmbrisket 51
01-24-2005, 05:51 PM
dont forget the fart can and sooper dooper cool green or yellow window tint, and type R stickers, apc makes reallly really awsome stickers too

dmbrisket 51
01-24-2005, 05:52 PM
wait, wait...No

bambam89lx
01-24-2005, 05:54 PM
last year in an import tuner magazine, they dynoed a car before and after installation of decals. I can't remember the month, but I remember it. It was in the power pages section. They dynoed a car stock. Then they had vinyl decals applied to the sides of the car. Then, they dynoed it again and it gained 1/2 Horsepower. So, they set the record straight, decals really do give you more HP!

dmbrisket 51
01-24-2005, 06:00 PM
probibly got more to do with pushing it harder the second time then the first time...either way, classic

5gcivic
01-24-2005, 06:08 PM
probibly got more to do with pushing it harder the second time then the first time...either way, classic
Or engine was actually at operating temp

icE_x
01-24-2005, 06:11 PM
2 fast 2 furious RULES!!!!...

give me my neon! lol

Juicy05
01-24-2005, 06:17 PM
i seen an integra with a Gt-R badge on it at school ....... it made me chuckle.....

lazysmurff
01-24-2005, 06:18 PM
anyway, to help the kid out...

if your not doing engine mods because your doing a swap and dont want to waste the money, first thing to do would be to get some good rims shod with some good tires. sticky ass tires= faster car.

then, strip off everything that isnt needed to run the car. lose the AC compressor, heater core, cruise control, back seats, carpet, noise dampening, insulation, etc etc etc.

start buying carbon fiber body parts, like hood, hatch, door panels, fenders, etc.

if you're only going to swap the engine, and plan on keeping the tranny (not a good idea but anyway) get an LSD.

you can also slap on a cat back exhaust. most popular engine swaps dont affect exhaust placement beyond the cat.

90civicracer
01-24-2005, 07:22 PM
How can I ask a stupid question without sounding stupid?

civickiller
01-24-2005, 07:36 PM
you might hate driving it if its a daily driver. it doesnt add that much time to your 1/4. i mean you take off like what 50lbs. fuck go on a diet if you want to lose 50lbs. take a shit before you go to the track.

BLU CIVIC
01-24-2005, 07:48 PM
no stupid questions just stupid people :P

icE_x
01-24-2005, 08:07 PM
you might hate driving it if its a daily driver. it doesnt add that much time to your 1/4. i mean you take off like what 50lbs. fuck go on a diet if you want to lose 50lbs. take a shit before you go to the track.

^ rofl! that post made my day!

and it's true, daily driving is gonna suck. Adding a passenger with you would add what like at least 150 pounds? So u gutted all that convenient useful functional stuff for nothing :O

:rofl: :jump3: :bananadie :dogpile: :nutkick: :wave:

Dasicvtec
01-24-2005, 08:39 PM
thanks for the replys guys

i Will b doing engine mods later on but i just wanna get other parts of the car right 1st

im planning on basically buying the car, doing suspension mods and stripping it and what ever else i could do - possibly a smaller battery- and whilst im doing all of that i would have alrdy purchased a b16a and then slowly modify out of the car and then when the car is rdy ill put the b16a in

would u reccommend that ??

and also and engine conversion will b a lil more expensive so i figure if i buy a suspension system first i can get more gains out of the car even though im still gonna put a b16a in it later on

i live in australia so finding honda engines is kinda hard....

and also, i got some suggestions from here aswell

http://forums.fastfours.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=89436

its an australian magazine, my letter got published in it :) go have a look

DJHyperXK2004
01-24-2005, 11:02 PM
hey guys

i was just wondering what i could to do (my future car) to make it faster without doing any enigne mods??

My future car will b either a EF civic or crx - for sure

im trying to plan it out now so ill have less dramas when i get the car

im guessing some suspension upgrades, brake upgrades ( to make it stop faster lol) umm also stripping of unneccessary weight, aero body kit parts ?? oh yeah and mayba better drivetrain setup ?

so yeh thats about it, but in general just for like any car how would u make it faster without any engine mods

thanks in advance

PS. this is not a span thread i really need to know




Thats like trying to gain weight, with out eating!!

88ReX
01-24-2005, 11:35 PM
thanks for the replys guys

i Will b doing engine mods later on but i just wanna get other parts of the car right 1st

im planning on basically buying the car, doing suspension mods and stripping it and what ever else i could do - possibly a smaller battery- and whilst im doing all of that i would have alrdy purchased a b16a and then slowly modify out of the car and then when the car is rdy ill put the b16a in

would u reccommend that ??



Thats a good idea, I am going the same route myself. Suspension first then engine. I gotta ask what are you looking at doing with this car? Drag? AUtox? I got from your other post that you want to keep it N/A. I would recommend going with a higher displacement engine such as a b18c or a b20 in your case, or in any case. The torque is nice with these motors and in your b16 it just won't "feel" as fast.

Dasicvtec
01-25-2005, 12:14 AM
this is basically gonna b my 1st car and also my street/ occasional drag car

thats about all and yeh im keeping it NA

is the b18c moderately harder to install thena b16a ?

bambam89lx
01-26-2005, 03:39 PM
i seen an integra with a Gt-R badge on it at school ....... it made me chuckle.....

I've seen an eclipse with a mugen decal across the windshield. And a mazda mx6 with a nismo decal.....
lol

civic_boy91
01-26-2005, 04:09 PM
b18c is the same swap...the outside is is the same as a b16

dmbrisket 51
01-26-2005, 04:15 PM
ok, i was a chevy guy, i must break down and ask it, what does n/a mean???

icE_x
01-26-2005, 04:45 PM
wow - but hey everyone hasta start somewhere right?

n/a means naturally aspirated (no forced induction, which means turbos or superchargers, even though a turbo is a type of supercharger)

americansk8er85
01-26-2005, 04:49 PM
hey guys

i was just wondering what i could to do (my future car) to make it faster without doing any enigne mods??

My future car will b either a EF civic or crx - for sure

im trying to plan it out now so ill have less dramas when i get the car

im guessing some suspension upgrades, brake upgrades ( to make it stop faster lol) umm also stripping of unneccessary weight, aero body kit parts ?? oh yeah and mayba better drivetrain setup ?

so yeh thats about it, but in general just for like any car how would u make it faster without any engine mods

thanks in advance

PS. this is not a span thread i really need to know

gimme a break, take your RICE elsewhere* pal. Read some previous posts

pika
01-26-2005, 05:53 PM
rofl

icE_x
01-26-2005, 08:58 PM
who are you to talk? you have 10 posts? pika is owning you with 31 posts, booya!

And it's not rice, he's actually doing things to his car, not just adding stickers and big aluminum wings without any functionality

BLU CIVIC
01-26-2005, 09:49 PM
gimme a break, take your RICE elseware pal. Read some previous posts

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/gay15.jpg

icE_x
01-26-2005, 10:23 PM
^ rofl! He spelt elsewhere wrong too...haha

DJHyperXK2004
01-27-2005, 02:32 PM
I've seen an eclipse with a mugen decal across the windshield. And a mazda mx6 with a nismo decal.....
lol


omg, your kidding, right???

bambam89lx
01-28-2005, 04:40 PM
omg, your kidding, right???

nope. not at all. I couldn't stop laughing at the eclipse tho...he even kept revvin' on me with his stock RS...not even turbo!....lol. (not that it matters...a GST or GSX is no match whatsoever for my CRX).
it's the same kinda person that will put a "nos" sticker on there car and have no nitrous kit. or the same kind of person that will drill holes in there exhaust to make it sound like an aftermarket system...
yes, they're called "ricerz" Yo.

90civicracer
01-28-2005, 07:25 PM
I hope you mean a stock GST or GSX because there are some pretty sick GSX's out there modded that could probably whoop the shit out of your B20 CRX

94CIVICDXTuner
01-29-2005, 12:24 AM
maybe he doesn't know how to work on the engine himself? or he doesn't feel like bringin it to a shop? i'm kinda like that about engines, i have no idea how to work on one...i know the parts etc, but i'd be too afraid i'd break something so i'd get a shop to do it



Couldnt have said it better. I respect the fact that you admit that you have no idea how to work on one, even tho theres gonna be someone out there to bust on you for it. Mad props man. As for the answer to the question, I would take out unnessesary things like the back seat, maybe the passenger seat, and the spare tire (if ya got one, which you should). Its not much of a change, but it'll work.

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