3000gt Vr4 vs. Subaru Impreza WRX STI

well, i'm wondering which one will win
in a race ?
in a drag? 1/4 miles ? 1 miles ?

and also, i've been looking for both car specs, will be apreciated if someone could post specs for both cars...


thx :)

i recently lost to a lancer evo which is about the same i think IT WAS FAST!!! but i have auto non turbo so no suprise lol
i kinda think the wrx would win though

STI should beat a VR4...they run very low 13's stock. it is 300bhp and 300 ft-lbs of torque and it weighs in at almost 3300lbs.

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_engines.aspx?modelid=11219&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=1

sorry i was wrong a 97 vr4 (the fastest one according to my source http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html)
goes 4.8 to 60 and 13.6 in the quarter the wrx gos 5.1 to 60 and 13.8 in the quarter
sounds like a interesting race though

well according to auto consumer guide, the Sti has 300HP and 300TQ, while the 3000GT VR-4 has 320Hp, and 315TQ, however the VR-4 Weighs 3200lbs while the Sti weighs 3024 lbs, so given this I dunno I'd say drivers race, however I don't know what the HP to weight ratios are for each car, so IMO, drivers race... sorry I g2g really quickly so I can't look up 1/4 mile times, hope this helps

I'd say the wrx sti has the advantage BUT can be beat by a vr4 with a better driver.

Also, from a 60-110 or so roll I would put down some cash on the vr-4

well according to auto consumer guide, the Sti has 300HP and 300TQ, while the 3000GT VR-4 has 320Hp, and 315TQ, however the VR-4 Weighs 3200lbs while the Sti weighs 3024 lbs, so given this I dunno I'd say drivers race, however I don't know what the HP to weight ratios are for each car, so IMO, drivers race... sorry I g2g really quickly so I can't look up 1/4 mile times, hope this helps

correction, the VR-4 weighs 3800 lbs

anyways, the 3/S guys in our city hang out with all the WRX guys so i can pretty much answer the question. In the quartermile, the 2nd gen vr-4 vs. the STi, it would come down to who can launch the best. From a roll, the vr-4 has the advantage due to highway gears. I've seen a friend's RT/TT with just intake and MBC race my other friends stage 3 WRX non-STi, but that car dynos as much as an STi, and the RT/TT walked away from it without too much of a problem, but all in all, i like both cars

ahh well...thx for your answers :)

( damn, I was hoping the WRX to win )

and yeah I love both cars too :)

I was actually looking at the consumerguide website at the 3000gts and i noticed something interesting. When they posted the trims, it said that the regular 3kgts weighed in at 3200 lbs. However, I saw the SPYDER weigh in at 3733 lbs. Anyone have a place that shows the vr4 weight from a review or something?

ill still put my money on the STI...i have seen those things break into the 12's with a better set of tires (nitto 555's to be exact).

I've seen a friend's RT/TT with just intake and MBC race my other friends stage 3 WRX non-STi, but that car dynos as much as an STi, and the RT/TT walked away from it without too much of a problem, but all in all, i like both cars

the non-STI is a half a liter smaller so the power band is bound to be weaker along with the TQ numbers...
not to mention the STI having a slightly higher compression ratio which will cause less turbo lag (beings the boost doesnt have to be set as high to create that kind of power) which will cause more usable power.
also, the regular WRX only comes in a 5-speed and the STI comes in a 6-speed so shorter gearing can contribute to better acceleration times with a decent driver.

but overall, a decent race. a boost controller could turn around that race in a hurry to favor the VR4...

The Subaru WRX STI will stomp the VR4 easily .. I got a video of Best motoring that WRX ran 1/4 in 12.6s .. The 3000GT ran 13.5s I think ..

i dont want to be a argument killer but this site answers most of the xxxx vs xxxx questions. but only with stock cars http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html so with this in mind i wuld say that the 3kgt wuld take the trophy

Lets also not forget the STI is a newer car. The short gears that this car has can be annoying from what I've heard and somewhat detrimental to its 0-60 time. The vr-4 is heavier but still manages to be a very close competitor to the STI if not the victor in many situations.
A modded vr-4 vs a slightly modded STI would be very interesting.

Sorry bout the mis-info there, I was just gettin' my stuff from auto consumer guide's website, thanks for the correction.

The Subaru WRX STI will stomp the VR4 easily .. I got a video of Best motoring that WRX ran 1/4 in 12.6s .. The 3000GT ran 13.5s I think ..

I certainly don't know about it stomping the VR4 easily. It should, however, emerge victorious. I was in an Sti with my dad driving (test drive), and they are very, very quick. I was impressed with its power on the highway, where I thought it would not be fast. A boost controller on the VR4 would make it interesting.

The cars are close enough that it would be a drivers race.













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i dont want to be a argument killer but this site answers most of the xxxx vs xxxx questions. but only with stock cars http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html so with this in mind i wuld say that the 3kgt wuld take the trophy

link isn't working for me :/

the wrx sti is a quick car, not fast.

in the 1320 its more a drivers race with the sti having a bit of an edge on the vr4.
by numbers and mags the sti is the faster car in the 1320.

however, on a highway run, the sti doesn't stand much a chance on the freeway. our gears are too long and too sweet for an sti.

1st gen vr4's go up to 125mph in 3rd gear, 115mph for second gens 3rd gear
i beleive the sti would be in 5th.

i've raced an evo on the highway and swallowed it whole
i've got into a scuffle with an sti on the freeway and as i was passing him after 115mph he shutdown seeing he was on his way for a loss.

they are basically rally cars made to be quick in short distances, there purpose is not top speed at all!
but handling and quickness.

From personal experience, I have beated one local sti (when I just had an intake) multiple times in shorter races with traffic...usually from like 20-70ish.
Another Sti I met on a highway, I completely walked, I assume due to its gearing. From 70-120, I put a bunch of car lengths in between.
Those 2 are the only ones I can remember racing.

I certainly don't know about it stomping the VR4 easily. It should, however, emerge victorious. I was in an Sti with my dad driving (test drive), and they are very, very quick. I was impressed with its power on the highway, where I thought it would not be fast. A boost controller on the VR4 would make it interesting.

my thoughts exactly...i dont care what consumer guides are saying, the STI runs very low 13's with a decent driver and can easily be placed in the 12's with a good driver. i have seen it done too many times...not saying that a VR4 is gonna get smoked but i can almost guarantee that it will get beat in a dead stop 1/4 mile race...i dont know how it will fair in a highway race but according to your guys' races it sounds like the VR4 will take the cake, but im sure if if both cars had good driver's it would be alot closer of a highway race. the STI is a very hard car to be good at driving, an inexperienced driver will easily add a half second to the acceleration time. but there is no doubt in my mind that an STI will get walked after 115 to ???...

car against car, facts against facts I THINK the STI should come on top in any type of quartermile run from a dig JUST BASED ON FACTS. However on the streets things usually don't turn out that way.


It is not easy to bring out the full potential of the STI and I don't think many of us at all drive like the pros in magazines.

At a track the STI is a deadly foe with the upper hand but on the highway it is not even funny how much the STI would get walked. As stated before these are rally based cars made for short sprints, not excessive speeds.

It is not easy to bring out the full potential of the STI and I don't think many of us at all drive like the pros in magazines.


speak for yourself :p

speak for yourself :p
there are of course certain exceptions.

A boost controller on the STI? Apples to Apples. Stock they would be pretty close but I would give it to the STI on a short stretch.

Who said them guys were pros. Most of those guys started there by just being good in English class....the nerds we burned out past.... :evillol:

Now now, you wouldent be able to do burnouts withought nerds!

carol shelby, ferdinand porsche = NOT NERDS...lol but I get where your comming from buddy

Lol they didn't invent all the components of their cars is what I'm saying. I'd say any "smart" person with a special passion is a nerd.

Carol shelby (for the cobras) Used a body from a european car, an engine built by ford, and a chassis that was nice from europe :P

not to discredit the man, but he was just putting together pieces.

:22yikes: I think you guy are missing the point. I'm not talking about the guy for 20 years of his life patented a fuse on the car. And a "smart" person with a passion is not a nerd. That's just about everyone on this website... I think those men used great knowledge creating those machines, so take it how you want to.

I agree

I realise that... Just the way you mentioned the two names came across to me like you were insinuating that they revolutionized automobiles or something :P

no biggy

And they havn't??

IMO Carol Shelby hasn't.
Mr. Porsche, more so.