8 pics, 4 import, 4 domestic. now vote away...

okay here we go, 4 import pics and 4 domestic pics. id really love to have any one of these cars. now yall go vote and well see which one is most popular. (in case youre wondering i voted rx7)

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i would have voted for a Ferrari, but instead the skyline got mine.

yeah i didnt have any good ferrari pics, or vipers, or... too many more i could have included!

um... wheres the camaro SS? i know its a second generation nova, but unsure of the exact year. what year is it(i'm guessing 71)?

i voted for the porsche.

Based soley on the pictures I had to pick the Porsche, though it was a close call between it and the RX-7.

I had to vote for the GTR, but it was tough, ,the 996 held my attention, and the Nova is just a classic :)

the 4th pic down is a camaro ss with an rk sport bodykit

I went Nova personally if it was mine I'd paint it something more appeling than grey but you got to love to blower stickin' out through the hood. I liked the 996 and the rx7 are both awesome too, but I just loved the thought of the s/c'ed Nova. :)

The body kit was the main reason I didn't pick the SS it looks to wierd with it.:confused:

Originally posted by Firebird
The body kit was the main reason I didn't pick the SS it looks to wierd with it.:confused:

man... i like that kit! thats my favorite newer camaro! :p

maybe in place of wierd I should have said different, It looks cool I just liked the Nova more, Long live the muscle car. :)

that nova would look a lot better with a different color, and i just noticed something about it. if he was gonna cut a hole in the hood for the blower anyways then was that cowl hood really necessary? oh well its still cool. next time i go to the strip ill bring back a bunch of nice musclecar pics for ya!

Yea I notice the cowl hood thing too I thought maybe he had a big cowl setup and just got a blower and instead of buying a new hood just poped a hole through it. oh and thank about the pictures. :) :D )

If it ain't for the money then a close call between 996 and skyline , but since we hace 996s here I voted skyline , anyway the thread should have been "8 pics , 4 import , 4 chevy";)

i voted for the skyline because its not easily had here in the states. it was a close call between the rx7 and the skyline for me. both gorgeous cars.

thats a nice porche although i dont think yellow suites it, and the car below it looks nice aswell, but again, i wouldnt get it in yellow.
thats the best rx-7 i have seen so far, but i had to go with godzilla.

the rx-7 almost got my vote. almost~~ but since i'm a GT-R man. i chose the GT-R. but delaysion how come you didn't put up Shawn Morris' black bird skyline? that car looks waaay better then the one you put up.

The GT-C 7 all the way!! Mazda Power!!

damn skylines cleaning house! anyways yeah i noticed the chevy thing, but i didnt have any good pics of any other domestics. and that was the best looking skyline i had too, i didnt have the blackbird one.

i voted rx7 for pure performance, i mean, it can do it all....and still be a drift king......

as for the skylines cleaning house..........damn them......damn nissans greatness.........

Originally posted by NismoDrifts
as for the skylines cleaning house..........damn them......damn nissans greatness.........

"stupid skyline. stop being so damn cool!" ;)

hahahah thats what little kids would say if they just can't win. stupid blah blah blah. stop being soo cool~ lolz:evillaugh

Originally posted by NismoDrifts
i voted rx7 for pure performance, i mean, it can do it all....and still be a drift king......

tru dat, TRUE DAT!!

Well it should be pretty obvious which one I voted for :p, Skyline all the way though I have the R32 I would love to and will one day have an R34 Vspec II.

Looks like the Skyline is cleaning house for a good reason :D :finger:

Dont you get tired of saying how good your car is??? ;)

Whats your next mod looking to be?

Can we add another option: The looks of the Posche with the performance of the Skyline?

i had to pick the wrx because they are so under-rated. i would've picked the nova (long live muscle cars is right), but i like the corners too, and i would take a twin turbo-intercooled wrx over a supercharged nova anyday only because of awd and the :rolleyes: neato:rolleyes: flat 4

Originally posted by swedish
i had to pick the wrx because they are so under-rated. i would've picked the nova (long live muscle cars is right), but i like the corners too, and i would take a twin turbo-intercooled wrx over a supercharged nova anyday only because of awd and the :rolleyes: neato:rolleyes: flat 4

he has good taste ;)

thank you

I picked the R-34 because its gotta be one of the sexiest cars on the planet! The aggressive stance, wide body, headlights really set it of...not to mention the raging beast under the hood ;). Like people mentioned before, it was hard to choose between that and the Porsche, but in the end the Skyline dominated. :D By the way, I have respect for both imports and domestics. You can't say that the rumble of a 350 doesnt send chills up your spine. But you also can't say that a Twin-Turbo import wouldnt make you crap your pants when you drive it. :p PEACE OUT!

4 chebbies? what kinda domestics are those? they are all new except for the nova, (that corvette doesn't even belong in the poll...it's uglier than the subaru for christ's sakes) and they all look the same...you guys didn't even know which one was the ss camaro!

'the rumble of a 350..." what? haven't you ever heard a 426 Hemi purring by as it shakes the windows of the all the buildings within a one block radius?

i have ridden in several twin turbo cars that couldn't have scared my guppie, Garfield, let alone myself. just because it has a turbo doesn't mean it's any faster than all the other V6 imports. it just mean it costs more when it breaks.

it seems we have another "my taste in cars is the only good taste and everybody else is wrong" person :rolleyes:

Holy Crap I think that was the hardest poll I have taken. All of those cars were dead sexy. After hours of staring, con templating, and wheeping like a little school girl over the absolute beauty of the cars i went with the Posche.

umm, chebbiesux....what are you on? "just because it has a turbo doesnt mean its any faster than all other v6 imports" of course it does, a turbo doesnt make the car slower. sure, an nsx (6 cyl) wont beat a wrx (4cyl. turbo)....but turbos definatly beef up the compitition.

I was leaning towards the Skyline, but the body kit on the Camaro just makes it stick out so much, I had to vote for it

Dude I would have to go with the Nova, There is nothing like RAW power, and that is what you get from the old model cars, no computer chip crap and sstuff like that just straight RAW POWER

ok knobby, i'm confused....are you saying that a computer chip that makes the car more efficient, easier to fix, faster, more powerful, takes away from its raw power and its desireability? computer hcips have revlutionized cars....that nova in stock form probably isnt that fast, and by the looks of the pictures, its pretty stock and in dire need of a paint job.

actually, if that nova is a factory big block car than it was probably faster, 30 years ago, than 99% of the new cars out on the market. a 396 nova will run a 13 second quarter mile time with just a set of slicks on it...not many cars today will run that.
i don't get where you get off saying that nova looks stock...the two 4 barrels sticking out the 4 inch cowl hood should give that away pretty easily, and what looks like 17 inch wide tires out the back. most vehicles can't fit a 17 inch wide tire without serious modifications.
im pretty sure that puts it straight into the category of 'wild'

wild huh? compared to the rest of those cars above it, those are wild, the nova is modded. i'm kinda skeptical about the nova running a 13 sec quarter mile on just slicks, those things are beasts, they weigh alot. and what

i'm pretty sure all the cars posted are definitely wild. i'm also pretty sure that all the cars up there are gonna run 12's in the 1/4 mile or faster. on top of that, ever car has some turning ability except the nova and maybe the last vette. i'm not talking down on the nova or anything, i'm just pointing out the facts.

ps. the nova will not fit those fat slicks in the back without modification either.

wow...you guys are crazy =)
i bet that nova runs low 11's. very easy.
i would actually put money against anyone who disputed the thing ran 10's...just look at the damn thing
people don't put full race roll cages in 13 second cars my friend.

Originally posted by chebbiesux
4 chebbies? what kinda domestics are those? they are all new except for the nova, (that corvette doesn't even belong in the poll...it's uglier than the subaru for christ's sakes) and they all look the same...you guys didn't even know which one was the ss camaro!

'the rumble of a 350..." what? haven't you ever heard a 426 Hemi purring by as it shakes the windows of the all the buildings within a one block radius?

i have ridden in several twin turbo cars that couldn't have scared my guppie, Garfield, let alone myself. just because it has a turbo doesn't mean it's any faster than all the other V6 imports. it just mean it costs more when it breaks.

a twin turbo 6 cylinder is easily faster than a NA 6 cylinder what the hell you talking about ?

the SUPRA TT does 320hp
the Nissan Skyline does 280hp (japan) and 340 (england - hasn't got restrictor)
The RX7 is around 250 (urg)

and a turbo isn't part of the engine so if an engine component breaks its gonna cost as much as any other engine

now if the turbo breaks it sucks o well HKS turbo $2500 and some more horsepower to boot


i think you're a rich idiot stop spreading crap and i'd choose a Corvette over a viper since the corvette looks nicer and probably is faster

whoa, sorry, just because i have a few nice cars and my dad owns some really nice cars does not make me a 'rich idiot'.
everyone has their own personal tastes, i think that's great that you like a vette because my first car was a 81 vette 454 4 speed. white with a white leather interior. it was a piece of shit but it looked alright.
but, i must contend again when you say the vette is faster than a viper.
i have seen many articles and conversations on this and the only vette that can touch a viper is a z06. and even than, in most cases the viper will still take the z06...which it should because the viper is almost twice the price.
and not every twin turbo 6 is faster than all regular v6's. but your right, it definitely, in most cases, is.
you guys are forgetting about buick's turbo V6...back in the 80's they were making a 14 second turbo car that anyone can afford, and that's american my friend.

and when a head gasket blows in a turbo car, your right it costs the same as when a head gasket breaks in another car. but when you put a hole in a piston and your running 1000 dollar pistons because of the high boost your running, than the cost between the repairs on the two engines starts to differ.

Originally posted by chebbiesux
whoa, sorry, just because i have a few nice cars and my dad owns some really nice cars does not make me a 'rich idiot'.
everyone has their own personal tastes, i think that's great that you like a vette because my first car was a 81 vette 454 4 speed. white with a white leather interior. it was a piece of shit but it looked alright.
but, i must contend again when you say the vette is faster than a viper.
i have seen many articles and conversations on this and the only vette that can touch a viper is a z06. and even than, in most cases the viper will still take the z06...which it should because the viper is almost twice the price.
and not every twin turbo 6 is faster than all regular v6's. but your right, it definitely, in most cases, is.
you guys are forgetting about buick's turbo V6...back in the 80's they were making a 14 second turbo car that anyone can afford, and that's american my friend.

and when a head gasket blows in a turbo car, your right it costs the same as when a head gasket breaks in another car. but when you put a hole in a piston and your running 1000 dollar pistons because of the high boost your running, than the cost between the repairs on the two engines starts to differ.

you realise japan limits its cars to 280hp

and all of them are 13 second cars apart from the NSX which is a 12second car

and the camaro SS is a lw 12 second car so is that faster than a Z06 cuz i know its faster than a 12.8

o and the TVR Cerbera 4.5 which is british has 420 hp and is definitely faster than the Viper and costs less

i now think you're a hypocrite you just said you like the corvette yet your name is chebbie sucks ? explain that one

Ok... So much missinformation in one place! First of all, the 280HP limit in japan is not a law, it is simply a gentlemen's agreement between the automakers so that they would not get into the horsepower wars that wracked the US.

Like a few people have said just because a powerplant is turboed doesnt' mean it is more expensive to fix is true most of the time. Unless like chebbiesux your running 2 bar of boost and have all sorts of afterket internals. Also we seem to have overlooked the fact that just 'cause the turbo went, doesn't mean the entire turbo blew into a thousand tiny fragments. Alot of times its just a matter of replacing some bearings (if its a ball bearing turbo) or replacing an impeller shaft, or exhaust housing.

Now some one said somthing about how computer chips could never replace "RAW POWER"... So your telling me that having an ECU that can regulate your mixture according to RPM, Manafold temp, and Boost so you don't detonate isn't good? Your saying that having 1000cc injectors, Power FC, and a remapped ECU to go along with all your metal mods so you can safely run a 1000hp twin turbo car as a street driven car isn't good? Your telling me that when you drive this 1000, ,no lets say 600bhp car you don't want somthing like ATTESSA-ETS monitoring your lateral acceloration, G forces and wheelspin 10 times a second and taking torque away from a slipping wheel and delivering it to one with traction in under a tenth of a second?

Now I will say this, you can never replace the feeling of an old muscle car as it rumbles away at idle. Or the roar when you drop the hammer, there is nothing like it. But for pure performance when personal taste doesn't enter into it, I'm sorry but you've got to go with technology.

just because i owned a chevy doesn't mean i liked it
that car cost me 13000 dollars and although a big block 4 speed corvette is the ultimate chevy muscle car it paled in comparison to the cars i own today
i actually developed my hatred for chevy while i owned that car
i know chevy has made some good vehicles, but that was NOT one of them and it was such a piece of junk that i must have sunk about 3000 dollars just into repairs before deciding i was going to sell the car and buy my first dodge, a 69 dart Gt with a 340 wedge.
after owning that dart, fell in love with mopars, and here i am today.

and by the way, just by saying it 20 times does not mean it's true.
camaro's are NOT 12 second cars.
the only camaros that can crank off 12 second passes are no longer produced. they were for special race only applications and were titled yenko or c.o.p.o. series cars, there are only two yenkos known to exist and only a few hundred c.o.p.o. camaros.

Originally posted by chebbiesux
and by the way, just by saying it 20 times does not mean it's true.
camaro's are NOT 12 second cars.
the only camaros that can crank off 12 second passes are no longer produced. they were for special race only applications and were titled yenko or c.o.p.o. series cars, there are only two yenkos known to exist and only a few hundred c.o.p.o. camaros.

I beleave he speaks the truth:rolleyes:

Oh btw chubbie, if you want to ride in a TT car that will scare you AND your guppie, take a trip to Japan and find someone with a 600hp GTR:rolleyes: It shouldn't be to hard, they are running around all over the place over there, Nz too.

I'm not a big fan of any of these cars lines. Call me old-fashioned. Or not, because I don't even like the old cars here...hehe...Not that I don't appreciate the cars, just not the lines of these kits. Strip them down, and I would've voted for the 996 Porsche, followed by C5 vette, then the SS. But, since someone will probably force me to choose...nah, i'll do it based on lines for sole satisfaction...the skyline actually...as much as a domestic fan as i am, the only car I'd pick on lines alone out of the group would've been the skyline. That 996 was tortured in my opinion. Poor girl. As was the Vette, and SS. All 3 are screaming :help: and "RETURN US TO OUR ORIGINAL MASTER-SELVES!" That's my opinion. Back to me being domestic though, I'd take most european cars over a domestic, but, seeing as they run 2-5 times more than our best domestics...and...hahaha...i'm sure someone's going to say their is no best domestic... :) only joking crew, I just want to make it clear I love cars...

....but not to say I won't pick on a fair-share of them

ok, i'm rambling...shoot me! ME :aug2:

i kinda disagree with that "return us to our original master-selves" line....i think all of those cars have been made more gorgeous, faster, and classier because of the mods. They are original now, not all homoginized like all the other SS's, and 996's.

well, that porsche looks more like a japanese import than a german one. not that it's bad to look asian-exotic, but, when you're driving around with a porsche...come on...

i guess its just a difference in opinion....i dont think it looks jap, but oh well. i still voted for the skyline.

yes just saw another best motoring internation video and they had aR34 GT-R V-spec II vs R34 V-Spec I and yes the V-Spec hit a 12.9 second quarter mile pass. sooo yes~~ another japanese car that breaks into the 12's besides the nsx.

Who could not love the Porsche 996...Though the Skyline is hard to pass up being a Nissan man!

Hey TatII, your info says that your getting an s14 240sx soon, and you live in nyc....are you by chance getting the sr20det in your car? if so, are you going to heavy throttle (www.srswap.com)? its in new york....i was just wondering, cause i'm thinking of buying an sr20det from them.

since i'm commuting to school everyday and its 30 miles each way. i'm goin to keep the stock KA as a daily driver until it wears and tears down. then i'll swap a SR20DET in it. my boy has a 89 240SX which he used the shit out off until it died. he looked at heavy throttle in maspheth queens. its some small little garage with mostly honda engines. when he went there they didn't have any in stock and it cost around 3000 for a SR20DET there. not including shiping. sooo my friend is decidin to get it at venus racing instead since they only charge 2200 for the entire front clip and its 700 for shiping. sooo with a grand total of 2900 you can get eveyrthing. hes probrably goin to swap it in the summer after he pays off his credit card debts and i'm goin to help him swap the engine in. afterwards i'll give you guys a report and see how difficult it is to swap it ourselves to save about 1000 dollars. but thats if he reallly has the time to do it. but anways we'll see. anyways feel free to call venus racing there website is www.venus_auto.com and their number is 916 739 6002

A free hp tip for those guys with Skyline GTR's. Remove the boost restrictor plug out of the boost line before the factory solinoid. Your boost will raise from the standard 9 psi to 12.5 psi. What does that mean? Another 47hp at the wheels, dyno proven :)

Whack on a pair of pod filters and free flow exhaust from the turbo down pipe back and that is good for another 50-60hp at the wheels. Add that up an my car throws nearly proclaimed 280hp at the wheels as compared to the fly wheel proclaimed. At the end of the day that works out to nearly a 38% increase in hp for very little spent.

As to my next mod, well that is happening this Friday coming. Full service and the ECU remapped. The ECU remapping is fuel, and timing adjustment not to mention speed limiter removed properly.
What will this gain me. I will go from my current 265 hp at the wheels to @ 320 hp at the wheels with only pods, exhaust, and ecu done. :) Factor the driveline lose and I should see just over 400 hp at the flywheel and very very low 12's possibly a high 11 sec 1/4mile time at 14.5 psi :)

Wow Razorgtst, thats insane! will the high 11 quarter time use slicks or street tires? i bet you can do it on street tires. how much did your car cost new?

HAHAHAHAHA
you think your gonna get 60 hp at the WHEELS from an exhaust system and a couple air filters?!
HAHAHAHAHAHAA

i don't doubt the ability of the skyline to barf out soooo many horsepower with such minor mods. in sports compact car. there was a R32 with just a exhuast mod and it has 315 hp as opposed to 280 with just a exhuast. sooo don't underestimate some JDM cars.

well, it doesn't make sense that the factory would supply the car with such a restrictive exhaust that the car gains 20 percent more horsepower just by making the exhaust bigger...i know that if i pull the exhaust right off my satellite it only makes 20-30 horse more, and that's a huge difference in flow against having the exhaust on the car.
and since when does 3.5 psi make 50 more horse? i can up the boost from 12-15 psi in my talon and it doesn't make THAT much of a difference