wow, too fast

well i was on my way to work. driving casually as usual when im off to work. coming from behind i see a black coupe. but i didnt get a good look. he changes lanes and pulls up next to me. im doin about 45. he runs beside me for about maybe 15 secs waitin for the car in front of him to move. all of a sudden he takes off. it didnt even seem like he was trying. before i even had time to react he cuts in front of me and jets away. i didnt get a look at the trim but i saw in the corner the feared AMG badging. im like good it woulda been a waste of my gas to even bother haha. although im curious to see how badly i woulda lost

Whats this? A race story?

Whats this? A race story?

no just thought id like to share =)

Lol ok so its show and tell, I saw two esprits today.

http://www.mbusa.com/brand/container.jsp?/models/class_overview.jsp&modelCode=amg_class_main

Which one? :icon16:

if id take a guess it would have to be the SLK55 Roadster...still not 100% sure tho

Not that it matters, any of those, even the huge tank sedans, would have taken any of us here by a fair margin :( with the exception of Redneck and a few others, of course ;)

well since we're sharing i saw a red rolls royce phantom, a cream bentley GT continental, two ferrari's and one orange and one silver lamborghini murceilago........and that was all on the roads yesterday :iceslolan

Oh yeah, also saw a ford excursion limousine and a hummer limousine. Also on the same night :biggrin:

OH YEAH, well once I saw 27 different civilian hummers on public roads in one day. One of them was purple and all splattered with mud.

I still haven't had a chance to play with any of the AMG's yet. I've encountered two E55's on the highway, both wanted to run, but there was traffic :(

i didnt get a look at the trim but i saw in the corner the feared AMG badging. im like good it woulda been a waste of my gas to even bother haha. although im curious to see how badly i woulda lost

How badly? Very, very badly. AMG's are scary.

i saw a tempo today. . .

ahh fuck who am i kidding, the only thing you see in michigan during the winter is Suvs, Mustangs, and trucks. Fuck i dont think ive ever seen a Ferrari on the roads in michigan. . .

AMGs are nice, but I'd still take an ///M in their place. Personel prefrence and what not, lol. But they are still nice. From what I've read, they are alot better down low, and teh ///Ms take over up top. Still though, I wouldn't mind having either.

AMGs are nice, but I'd still take an ///M in their place. Personel prefrence and what not, lol. But they are still nice. From what I've read, they are alot better down low, and teh ///Ms take over up top. Still though, I wouldn't mind having either.
I'm sorry, but AMG>///M in my book. Sure they might call an M5 the ultimate sports sedan but I personally would take an E55 AMG over it any day.

Supercharged German V8/Twin Turbo German V12 = Teh Hotness!

Yeah, but I look at it this way-It tokk MB A supercharger or a V12TT to do what BMW did with a NA 5.0. Sure, its a V10, but still, no FI whatsoever. And have you ever driven a Benz? Things have more body roll than a fat chick at a rave.

SL65 AMG owns any BMW ever.

BTW what's up with the non racing threads in Street Racing? isn't there a car sightings section somewhere?

SL65 AMG owns any BMW ever.
Does the McLaren F1 count? It has a BMW engine :icon16:
But I agree with you...no M car can run in the 11s bone stock like the SL65 AMG can.

Thats because no ///M has a twin turbo V12. If you twin turbo a BMW V12, it'll rape the AMGs, flat out. And I'll put money on Dados ///M 3 will rape any AMG, flat out.

indeed cassiesman, was going to point that out also.
It's pretty obvious and normal that that couldn't happen and it's a bit stupid to compare them in the first place.
Plus, look at topgear, the mercedes still doesn't have the service you would need with cars like that.

lol, i just read yr first reply in here cassiesman and i want too furfill it with what my buddies called my benz back in the days. They called it the "TANK" who was made out of "Sollid rocks" to look like a "Brick".
And really, thats how they look, and handled! And I know it's a big difference between the two last generations, but still....

And before you guys start to talk about us being bimmer guys and all.
It has nothing to do with that, it's just my opinion when i compare them to eachother (the 2 brands, not the cars they spoke about earlier).

and too the man of cassie. It's actually a little odd but i noticed our mind often thinks the same way with these sort of things. I wonder it's due to the fact we ride with a car wich has the same whiteblue emblem. :lol2: :lol2:

j/K

I think a lot of people pick races with them because of their size, but they'll typically outrun anything on the street. BTW this thread didn't start as a comparison thread. :p

indeed, but then again, this thread started as nothing in the first place. :grinyes:

I'm guilty of starting the sightings thing, it was a joke lol, I didn't think anyone else would chime in. This thread never had a clear puropse.

Ahhh but cassiesman, you are commiting the cardinal sin of "but if I spent 'x' amount of dollars on this car, it could beat that car"....I have no doubt in my mind that dado's 540hp turbo M3 could beat the SL65...but hey, take the SL65 to a kleeman or brabus tuning firm, and we are right back where we started. I was talking stock for stock here.

And I'm talking stock for stock, BMW didn't need to use a super charger on a V8 or a TT on a V12 to get its numbers.

BMW dosent like FI.

BMW doesn't need it. I could go one and make a full post showing why BMW has won the HP was over MB, but I'm not gonna.

So what? BMW doesn't use FI, MB does...doesn't mean MB is any "lesser" of a manufacturer than BMW...personally I'd rather have the E55 than the M5(yes, the 2006 one) because the 5 series is butt ugly, thanks to Chris Bangle.

The new BMWs look fine, and they look better than any MB has ever looked. I'm not saying tis a better car becuase they dont use FI, I'm saying they have better engineers than MB becuase MB needs FI to get numbers that are marginally better than the BMW numbers at best.

I prefer AMG>///M. I just like the styling of benz cars. Bimmers don't lack there, and to most look better, but I like the benz cars. As far as the numbers go, who cares? this tread has no point, and we will never own any of those cars :disappoin :lol:

Welcome to the first thread jacking of 2005. I'm not partial to BMW or Mercedes. But from a technical point of view; I'm sure they can pull close to the same numbers of BMW out of a Mercedes if they decided to put in high comp pistons and aggressive cams. Its not a question of who engineered their cars better, because it would be ignorant to call any of their engineers stupid. Because for sure they are not. It was just a question of whether or not the engineers wanted to use low comp and boost, or high comp and flow. Its not that MB NEEDS forced induction to make power, because they could've easily gone the n/a route th at same power themselves. It was simply a choice by their engineers. And this is not to take away from BMW at all, because they could've just as easily gone the FI route themselves. It was all just simple choices.

:2cents:

i do not own an mb e55 or a bmw m5, but i did own a very nice 1996 mercedes c36 amg. that generation of cars did body roll a little more than a comparable bimmer, and i don't think it was up to the level of the e36 m3. i leased an e36 after i sold the mercedes.

i did recently testdrove a c55 benz, and a e46 m3 (for fun...not going to buy either of those for a while). the c55 (this model is NA) had great torque, and it clearly had the advantage if the m3 wasn't on boil. the m3 was a MONSTER from about 6000 to 8000. after driving it, i now know that 6000-8000 is the magic rpm range for the bimmer in that, that is where its lack of toque (compared to the mb) is compensated for. i agree with cassie that the bimmer has the advantage up top.

moving to the e55 vs. m5 issue. i think that the e55's engine, and the bmw's engine are pretty much even in both accelerative terms and quality/sophistication. the mercedes is using a large v8 w/a supercharger to make 469 ADVERTISED hp. the m5 uses a smaller NA v-10 in order to reach its ADVERTISED hp figure of 500. The benz may use a blower, but the bmw has a bigger engine. the bmw has more horsepower, but the benz has waay more torque. some might consider the NA bimmer to be superior, but the e55's engine matches the m5's engine every step of the way. in fact, the e55's eninge won the Best International Engine of the Year award in 2003.

http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/bestperf.html

yet, i still think that the bmw MIGHT (and that is a veeeery big might) be faster because of it's weight advantage and its 7-speed box vs. he benz's 5-speed.

2005 BMW M5 2005

Powertrain/Chassis
Drivetrain layout: Front engine, RWD

Engine type 90° V-10, alum block & heads

Valve gear: DOHC, 4 valves/cyl, variable

Displacement, ci/cc: 305.1 / 4999

Compression ratio: 12.0:1

Max SAE net horsepower: 500 @ 7750 rpm

Max SAE net torque, lb-ft: 384 @ 6100 rpm

Redline, rpm: 8250 6100



2005 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG

Powertrain/Chassis
Drivetrain layout: Front engine, RWD

Engine type: Supercharged 90* V-8, alum block and heads

Valve gear: SOHC, 3 valves/cyl

Displacement, ci/cc: 331.9 / 5439

Compression ratio: 9.0:1

Max SAE net horsepower: 469 @ 6100 rpm

Max SAE net torque, lb-ft: 516 @ 2650 rpm

Redline, rpm: 6100

CLIFF NOTES

this isn't a kill story...who needs cliff notes!?

btw, i will list some of the 2004 winners

best international engine (toyota prius):
http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/winners/winner.html

best performance engine (mb cl65, s65): http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/winners/bestperf.html

best 2 liter to 2.5 liter enigne (bmw 325i, x3, 525i, z4):
http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/winners/2_25.html

best 3 to 4 liter enigne (bmw m3):
http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/winners/3_4.html

bmw fans shouldn't be dissapointed. two wins are nothing to sneeze at, but the mb somehow managed to win the best performance engine award even thought they CHEAT!!! (being sarcastic).

the 2.5 liter bmw engine is a sweetheart, and so is the m3 engine. i think that they are two of the most refined NA engines in the world (it seems the judges share this belief also).

good showing by all.

Oh yeah and one more thing...the turbos on those Benz engines are DETUNED and producing that much horsepower...if they wrung the living daylights out of their engines like how BMW does, using high compression, high RPM hunks of metal, it would be different...the Benz way just happens to be using low compression engines with DETUNED turbochargers that are capable of making MUCH MORE horsepower than the PALTRY 604 hp that the TT V12 in the 65 series AMG cars are making.

unbelievable how far off topic this thread has gone. I mean my god people, 2 pages already of off topic unrelated crap. close the thread already.

it just looks like they took a somewhat uninteresting thread and made it interesting.
Would you rather we revert the thread back to
"well today I was driving and I saw a bmw z4! He drove away."
Besides, it is an interesting read.

My friend claims to have raced Dados M3 in DC. I believe him because I don't think he'd bullshit about that..not to mention he has an 11 second street supra..so I don't see why he'd need to make something like that up.

My friend claims to have raced Dados M3 in DC. I believe him because I don't think he'd bullshit about that..not to mention he has an 11 second street supra..so I don't see why he'd need to make something like that up.

Damn...Man, I'd love to race Dado (and get my ass kicked), that ///M3 is friggen mad. I love that video where he beats the bike.

Whats Dados story? What does he do for a living? How did he get all that money to buy/build that M3?

I dunno...I'd like to know myself. His ///M3 was car of the week a while back, but I cant find the link. All I know is I wanna do whatever he does.

:cya: rable rabble rabble "bmw" :cya: rabble rabble rabble "mercedes" :cya: rabble rabble rabble "forced Induction" :cya: rabble rabble rabble "dado's m3" calm..................... :cya: rabble rabble "mercedes specs" :cya: rabble rabble rabble "2004 winners"

If you were lucky enough to skip to this post then you have just heard a summed up version of the last 3 pages.

rabble rabble? Since when the fuck was the hamburgler in here posting?

rabble rabble? Since when the fuck was the hamburgler in here posting?
Are you just trying to get me to reply so you can rack up another ten one or two sentence posts? Keep posting, and you'll have that 5th star you've always wanted.

Actually no, I was just making a joke. :( And it's not like I post a one or two liner every few minutes..my posts are hours apart.

And the hamburglar is more like a Robble than a Rabble...Shakes fist whilst saying Robble Robble Robble

Damn...Man, I'd love to race Dado (and get my ass kicked), that ///M3 is friggen mad. I love that video where he beats the bike.
What does his M3 run in the 1/4? Did I see someone post that he has over 500hp? That's pretty sweet.

It is indeed true, the hamburgler does make more of a robble sound than a rabble. And just letting you know pwrd..you don't get another star for 600 posts.

When do you get your stars...I cant see mine

You have 4, like I do. I think we get our 5th at 1,000 posts.

And the hamburglar is more like a Robble than a Rabble...Shakes fist whilst saying Robble Robble Robble
I never noticed that. I vistied the official Hamburglar hideout, and found it is in fact Robble as the riddle section of the website is entitled "robble robble riddles"


What does his M3 run in the 1/4? Did I see someone post that he has over 500hp? That's pretty sweet.
In the Automotiveforums article he dynoed 458whp, and here is a video of a quartermile pass @ 11psi
http://www.dtmpower.net/videofile2nd/firstpasslowboost.mpg

Wow, he put buses on that poor bastard that ran a 16.

In the Automotiveforums article he dynoed 458whp, and here is a video of a quartermile pass @ 11psi
http://www.dtmpower.net/videofile2nd/firstpasslowboost.mpg
11.88@121, very nice. He'd kill me on the highway, but I'd run him at the track :) Altho, I'm sure he'd kill me if he turned up the boost LOL

That link didn't work for me, all I got was an add.

Damn im freaking low @ stars. sometimes i dont have time to post stuff.

nevermind i have 3 im satisfied with this.

I have a feeling this will be closed real soon. There should be a street racing rabble rabble thread. :smile:

Thourun, right click and save as. and yes. the end of this thread is near.

Whoever asked the question about "what's the story of this Dado guy", he's the founder of DTMpower.net....I don't know if that's what he does for a living, but if it is, then I'd say DTMpower.net is a pretty lucrative website. He's also featured in all the mischief videos along with Dustin Worles(Founder of Teckademics).

Hrrm, didn't think of that, I very rarely have to do it anymore.

I asked. And I know who Dado is...I've actually seen his car in person. I was just wondering what his story was. Like what he did for a living and all. I've seen most of the Mischief videos. I watched the cannonball one or whatever when I had a really really bad hangover so I don't remember much of it..I just remember a killer headache and vomiting. But, from what I did see it was a good video.

http://www.automotivearticles.com/Dado_s_Yellow_1995_BMW_M3.shtml

Link to the car of the week page about dado's m3. I was expecting an e46 m3.