Z06 vs Panda pt2

New year, New Z06 to play with.



Let me start off the story with this disclaimer. I was dead tired when I got home from work. Driving from Long Beach to San Deigo (109.4 miles one way) to work at a marina on a customers boat and then home again. With afternoon traffic wears on you.

So, it being unseasonably warm (high 70s today, if not touching 80) as well. I started cat-napping on the reclining sofa in the living room when I get a call to come hang out and eat chiliburgers and be fat and happy.

Being all groggy and generally confused as to what I'm doing I make the trek to the 76 gas station to top off the Z and then onto the freeway.

Cruisin down local street that is stupidly long and has great areas for racing... and has several rich areas that branch from it. You see lots of nice cars. Those of you who remember, I had a run in with a Z06 before. It was on this stretch.

I check my rearview, I see a car coming up in the right lane. I'm in the left lane. I wonder what it is. I determine it's not worth my effort to race. When all of a sudden, a Corvette comes up the middle lane.

"Oh, now this is worth messing with"

A Black on Black Z06 with blacked out wheels and proudly sporting that 405hp badge on the fender comes skirting by. Window half rolled down and I notice a blonde pony tail sitting in the pilot seat.

"Oh baby, gimme some."

I downshift to 4th and start to come along side when she downshifts and takes off on me.

"Oh you little tease!"

I take chase, she's not getting to far. At this point I figure she's not going all out. She doesn't have any reason to believe I'm any threat. Why would she? It's only a Datsun. :naughty:

Fate has a funny way of working... I'll explain why.

Light ahead goes red.

I'm in the left lane, she's in the middle. I'm revving it up to keep it from dieing (stupid Idle), she's revving back.

This is the first time I've launched the car with the new clutch/flywheel setup. Sooo I wasn't sure what to expect.

Light goes green, The Z stumbles and bogs out slightly but recovers beautifully and She comes off the line hard roastin tires.

I hit 2nd gear way too hard and break traction, she and I are neck and neck... I reach for 3rd gear.... and....

MMMMMIIISSSHHIIIFFFTTT

"wtf... whats that sound... why am I on the limitor... why'd I stop accelerating?.... OH SHIT I TOTALLY MISSED 3rd GEAR...ACKK"

I stomp the clutch and toss her into 3rd and dump the clutch and get back on it...

"GO YOU LITTLE JAP BASTARD GO!" I cursed to my car as she crept away.

She let off slightly, but got back on it when she realised I wasn't going down that easy. Top of 3rd came, I shifted into 4th and started reeling her in like the prize fish she was.

Light up ahead changes to red.

"Ok girl, I fucked up... Lemme have one last chance."

She kinda waves me past, I think. She made some hand gesture out the window. Her lane was blocked up ahead. So she tucked in behind me at the light.

I'm revving it up again to keep it from dieing... fucking idle! She's back there, I can't hear her revving over myself. But this time I'm going for broke.

Light goes green, I come off the line hard. I think I can come off the line a bit faster/harder but this was damn near perfect. She's stuck on my rear bumper.

Her and I clear the intersection together in a 700hp frieght train of pure sexy racing goodness. Before any other car was through the first crosswalk.

I nail 2nd gear with only the slightest of chirps... she's clearly still in my rearview mirror. Maybe 6ft off my rear bumper.

I hit 3rd gear so goddamn hard... now I start to hope... I hope I can keep her back there. This is after all a Z06.... winding out 3rd.. we go into 4th gear.... check the mirror again...

"She's starting to fall back... wait. The lights are getting farther? Slowly.... wait... I'm faster?.... I'm FASTER!... GO BABY GO!"

I'm well past the century mark on the speedo... and I see her let off the gas maybe 2 very short car lenghts behind me.

Then I see her drop back insanely fast... and hop into a left turn lane that takes you into a neighborhood.


I let off, and coast.. apply the brakes slowly... downshifting smoothly.


I come to the next light, last light before I turn. The Z stalls out. I'm shaking from both exhaustion and adrenaline.

"Holyshit." I look around to see if anybody was watching. Which was stupid, if they were it'd be about a half mile back. I pull into the parking lot where my buddies are at and I sit and let the car idle down on the turbo timer.

I got out and I had to lean against my buddies Titan for a few cause I was drained. You know it's a good race when it puckers up your asshole and gets you shakin afterwards.


More shit happened tonight too, but I'll make another post about that...

Wowwww...



i totally thought it'd be her misshift.. hehehe


you're so cool. I think you're super fast cuz of that Megan muffler!!!

wow that got me excited reading about it, o0o man you make me wana go race, i could picture you pullin on the z06, amazing FREAKING AMAZING, GODD DAMM, i hate you, but love your car, shit a z06 by about 2 cars, holy freaking god,my only question is was the driver of the vette female?

that was crazy man, ok now go find a viper, and a v12 car and pick on them.. damm im speechless once again due to the monster panda..

i m gona to dream now about a turbo z b/c its 2:41 am and i been wating up for this post..

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:lol:

Megan Racine N1 powah!

$75!!! can't go wrong.


I think it's fair to call this a 1 - 1 draw. I have unfinished business with Z06's now. :lol:


And yes, she was female. Can't say if she was cute her window was tinted but it was half down so you could see her blonde hair and the ponytail.

I wish I could thank her for the good time. :smooch:

VERY VERY nice...I think part 2 was better than part 1!

MMMMMMIIISSSHHIIIFFFTTT

"wtf... whats that sound... LOL. I had to read that three times, trying to decide what crazy thing in your car would make a sound like "mmmmmiiissshhhhhhiffffft!" :rofl:

Great balls of fire that was nice 1/2 kill. Lov it when 4's an 6's smoke V8's. You think you got pumped up tonight, wait till you make your upgrades. Toilet paper time.:smokin:

damn...outrunnin a Z06 tho?? geez...i would have loved to see that...a 1972 Datsun outrunnin a 405 HP corvette Z06...lmao

Nice run. How fast do you run in the 1/4? Probably very fast, like 2200 lb @252 whp.

:bs:

First of all, winning a race while staring in FRONT of another car is not a win... :loser:

Second, not wanting to be 6 feet from someone bumper at 100mph, is not getting pulled, it's called being smart and backing off... :screwy:


240Z curb weight: 2355lbs...
http://www.maine207.k12.il.us/staff/2738/BD_240Z.HTM

According to your sig, you have 252rwhp/256rw ft-lbs...

assuming 15% loss with the stick shift, you prolly have bout 297hp, and a tad more torque...

hp/lb... = 297/2355 = 0.12611 hp/lb...

That is assuming your turbo didn't add any weight to the stock rated curb weight of the car...

now Z06, rated to 405hp, prolly a tad more in actuality, but we will calculate with 405hp...

hp/lb... = 405/3116 (from autotrader) = 0.12997 hp/lb...

as you can see, the hp/lbs if VERY close, suggesting that it would be a drivers race... however, the z06 has FAR superior suspension and probably a better gear box than the 240z...

I could see you matching the z06 and keeping it at your rear bumper, but pulling cars on it, especially up top end where the LS6 loves to run... I'm just not buying it... :nono:

-Garrett

Nice kill red, makes me want a Turbo Datsun, or at least the AA Turbo for my car.

welcome to AF project_speed. Now let me show you the ropes.
1. Redneck is the most beloved character on the street racing forums by far, he is in many of our books the street king!
2. Redneck never BS us.
3. Talk shit about Redneck and youll make enemies right quick, which I'm sure you've managed well.
4. You some kind of impotent little prick? your bench racing is amazing, tell me now, how did you ever become so proficient in determining the outcome of a race with paper and pencil? it proves nothing you moron.
5. can I have your autograph? I have always wanted to meet the guy who invented street racing and as consequent, the rules of street racing.
Who the hell do you think you are you newbie punk? whiney little fuck :crying: you jelous? coming in here talking shit about a true to life legend! my suggestion is to fuck off before we all decide to hand your ass over to ya.

Brava! Brava!

There are few in these forums that can tell you an adrenaline pumping story Red. You, I consider to be one of them :thumbsup: By far the best story I have heard from you to date.

When the tracks become available again, you should take the Z and get some footage on it. I have yet to see your car perform. I can't take the stories anymore :crying: I need some vids! :p

As for Garrett, He never said he won the race. He stated he was going "Faster" because he was pulling away from the Z06. You seem to like to come in here and pull the BS Flag don't you. Well, when you can pull on a Z06 or keep it at par, then let us know. Otherwise don't come in here trying to start something because you have some "knowledge" of cars. Debates are fine, but trying to put someone down to prove that you know about something is blatantly stupid. Lay off why don't you. Late...

:bs:

First of all, winning a race while staring in FRONT of another car is not a win... :loser:

Second, not wanting to be 6 feet from someone bumper at 100mph, is not getting pulled, it's called being smart and backing off... :screwy:


240Z curb weight: 2355lbs...
http://www.maine207.k12.il.us/staff/2738/BD_240Z.HTM

According to your sig, you have 252rwhp/256rw ft-lbs...

assuming 15% loss with the stick shift, you prolly have bout 297hp, and a tad more torque...

hp/lb... = 297/2355 = 0.12611 hp/lb...

That is assuming your turbo didn't add any weight to the stock rated curb weight of the car...

now Z06, rated to 405hp, prolly a tad more in actuality, but we will calculate with 405hp...

hp/lb... = 405/3116 (from autotrader) = 0.12997 hp/lb...

as you can see, the hp/lbs if VERY close, suggesting that it would be a drivers race... however, the z06 has FAR superior suspension and probably a better gear box than the 240z...

I could see you matching the z06 and keeping it at your rear bumper, but pulling cars on it, especially up top end where the LS6 loves to run... I'm just not buying it... :nono:

-Garrett

your theory is quit close, but i must add that the all aluminum 2.0 SR20DET is around 200 lbs lighter then the all iron 2.6 liter L30 straight six. so thqt would put redneck dangeriously close to being 2000 lbs flat. so in that case, the power to weight would be in favor of redneck


also most rear wheel drive don't have 15% drive train lose, its closer to 18%.

S2000 makes 240hp it puts down 200whp, a 350Z makes 287hp, it puts down around 235whp. get the picture?

so given that also, it will further boost rednecks power to weight. making 252whp on a nissan 5 speed is around exactly 300hp or just a hair more.



now back to the subject, redneck are you sure it was a girl and not some feminine dude with a pony tail?

Thats exatly what I was gonna say, Tat...it is California after all.

*Ducks all blunt objects thrown at face*

:ylsuper::ylsuper::ylsuper::ylsuper::ylsuper::ylsu per::ylsuper::ylsuper:

awesome race converted to an awesome story write up. You must race more Redneck, I obey you to race them all!!!! :smokin:

red, amazing the panda is is one heck of a warrior man. and project speed :nutkick: thats all i got to say about that

:bs:
240Z curb weight: 2355lbs...
http://www.maine207.k12.il.us/staff/2738/BD_240Z.HTM

According to your sig, you have 252rwhp/256rw ft-lbs...

assuming 15% loss with the stick shift, you prolly have bout 297hp, and a tad more torque...

hp/lb... = 297/2355 = 0.12611 hp/lb...

That is assuming your turbo didn't add any weight to the stock rated curb weight of the car...

now Z06, rated to 405hp, prolly a tad more in actuality, but we will calculate with 405hp...

hp/lb... = 405/3116 (from autotrader) = 0.12997 hp/lb...


Bench racing=th3 l0z3ors!!11!1!

Get a life. Redneck isn't BSing, and you suck. I call BS on your life.

I'm at work currently, I'll reply in more detail later after I get home. But just letting you know I'll be returning to defend myself. :)

Stay tuned.

welcome to AF project_speed. Now let me show you the ropes.
1. Redneck is the most beloved character on the street racing forums by far, he is in many of our books the street king!
2. Redneck never BS us.
3. Talk shit about Redneck and youll make enemies right quick, which I'm sure you've managed well.
4. You some kind of impotent little prick? your bench racing is amazing, tell me now, how did you ever become so proficient in determining the outcome of a race with paper and pencil? it proves nothing you moron.
5. can I have your autograph? I have always wanted to meet the guy who invented street racing and as consequent, the rules of street racing.
Who the hell do you think you are you newbie punk? whiney little fuck :crying: you jelous? coming in here talking shit about a true to life legend! my suggestion is to fuck off before we all decide to hand your ass over to ya.

:rofl: First of all, I'm not a newbie to AF... I've been registered since Dec. 03'... Count it, that's 6 MONTHS LONGER THAN YOU, fukin newb... :loser:

I have seen many of rednecks posts, and you are correct, I've never seen him BS before, but I just happen to think that this was exaggerated a little... My old name is hot_red_z28 if you'd like to check that out... I've only reregistered because I've switched cars... My 450hp nitrous powered Z28 wasn't quite enough for me... Of course you wouldn't know anything about that with your little 16+second 3kGT... :lol:

I also don't care if someone doesn't like me on here... I post what I believe to be the facts... If I accidently rub someone the wrong way because I try to get to the truth, then I'm sorry, but so be it... This is an internet message board in case you didn't notice, there is more to life...

I'm not sure if i'm impotent or not, we'll have to ask your mother that question...

Also, I didn't determine the race outcome with pencil and paper, some us can do that simple math in your heads... once you get your GED you prolly will be able to too... :)

"True to life legend"... :rofl: LMFAO... I'm sure redneck is a great guy and all, but man, this is the internet, have you ever met him? heard about him on other boards? Gimme a break... you know nothing about him except for reading some of his posts here...

You're right too, I am very jealous... :lol: My current project motor is a fully forged 383 LT1 stroker engine dynoed to 480hp... also built for a 250rwhp (that's right, RWHP) shot of nitrous... So I'm insanely jealous of him and YOU with your pimp ass mitsu... Rippin up the streets, ownin them OHC neons... go you...

again you flex your internet muscles saying you "will hand my ass over to me..." please... I could play the game too and say "oh well why don't you try it bitch, i'll show you", but what does that accomplish, this is a message board, nothing else...

P.S. Since some people took offense to this (like the all mighty protector above), I guess I should let redneck know that there was no disrespect intended by my post, I was simply displaying the things I doubted... If he has in fact done weight reductions like you say and is running with a weight of 2000lbs, then yes, that would definately make a difference it is possible that he pulled on one some... I was just going by the information I had from his sig and other tech info sites...

-Garrett

Sounds like a hell of a race..and damn project speed...you have some audacity calling BS on Redneck. WTF man? I'd put money on "Banned" being under your name in the near future.

Holy Hell a z06 man thats EVIL i so need that panda i'll give you 2 packs of gum and name my first born after you?

Sounds like a hell of a race..and damn project speed...you have some audacity calling BS on Redneck. WTF man? I'd put money on "Banned" being under your name in the near future.

:lol: Banned for stating an honest opinion? Now that would be funny...

Yeah, it will be pretty funny. :lol:

:rofl: First of all, I'm not a newbie to AF... I've been registered since Dec. 03'... Count it, that's 6 MONTHS LONGER THAN YOU, fukin newb... :loser:

I have seen many of rednecks posts, and you are correct, I've never seen him BS before, but I just happen to think that this was exaggerated a little... My old name is hot_red_z28 if you'd like to check that out... I've only reregistered because I've switched cars... My 450hp nitrous powered Z28 wasn't quite enough for me... Of course you wouldn't know anything about that with your little 16+second 3kGT... :lol:

I also don't care if someone doesn't like me on here... I post what I believe to be the facts... If I accidently rub someone the wrong way because I try to get to the truth, then I'm sorry, but so be it... This is an internet message board in case you didn't notice, there is more to life...

I'm not sure if i'm impotent or not, we'll have to ask your mother that question...

Also, I didn't determine the race outcome with pencil and paper, some us can do that simple math in your heads... once you get your GED you prolly will be able to too... :)

"True to life legend"... :rofl: LMFAO... I'm sure redneck is a great guy and all, but man, this is the internet, have you ever met him? heard about him on other boards? Gimme a break... you know nothing about him except for reading some of his posts here...

You're right too, I am very jealous... :lol: My current project motor is a fully forged 383 LT1 stroker engine dynoed to 480hp... also built for a 250rwhp (that's right, RWHP) shot of nitrous... So I'm insanely jealous of him and YOU with your pimp ass mitsu... Rippin up the streets, ownin them OHC neons... go you...

again you flex your internet muscles saying you "will hand my ass over to me..." please... I could play the game too and say "oh well why don't you try it bitch, i'll show you", but what does that accomplish, this is a message board, nothing else...

P.S. Since some people took offense to this (like the all mighty protector above), I guess I should let redneck know that there was no disrespect intended by my post, I was simply displaying the things I doubted... If he has in fact done weight reductions like you say and is running with a weight of 2000lbs, then yes, that would definately make a difference it is possible that he pulled on one some... I was just going by the information I had from his sig and other tech info sites...

-Garrett

Dam dude, messed with my momma and everything! your really got issues kid.
16 seconds on a 3000GT????? I was wrong you cant even bench race for shit!
so youve been here longer then me eh? well then you are one slow learner. Anyone who has been here longer I would expect more from. you disapoint me! you also hurt my feelings since I already hold in such high respect everything you say.
Its cool though, I had to work with mentaly challenged children before. as a matter of fact I worked for about 4 months at a local hospital (Miami Childrens Hospital in Coral Gables Miami). I had to do it as part of a study to get my degree in Analytical Phycology, you know after I got my GED! :rofl:
so Im used to working with handicapped children and its ok, I know your just angry cause the other kids make fun of you.

Redneck Im sorry if i turned your thread into a battle zone, seriously didnt mean to highjack it. Nice race bro but your right, you owe us a third run with a Z06.

but I just happen to think that this was exaggerated a little...

There is a big difference in thinking someone exaggerated a little, and flat out calling BS. Everyone exaggerates a little, these boards are like fishing stories. There all true, with hints of exaggeration here and there becuase they make the stroy a little more exciting. But you've never exaggerated. Never. In your life. I bet you have a opticly built in range finder, speedometer, and everything else so that your stories are accurate to within a hundreths of an inch in your kill stories.

Oh, and one more thing

some us can do that simple math in your heads... once you get your GED you prolly will be able to too...

and

I was just going by the information I had from his sig and other tech info sites...


that is bench racing.

well, does anyone on here have a Z06 and live near redneck that would like to settle this tie? Mmm, that would make a sweet video. :)

I just have to say - I'm on a slight break from work. We'll see if Matty has returned by the time I come home. If he hasn't, and I have to address the "calling out" in this thread while I'm grumpy from my long commute home - it won't be pretty.

Settle down, and get a life, folks, and call bullshit where you can back yourself better than with grade-school math, and a less-than-informed assumption of car weights.

^ I was hoping someone would come in and shut these guys up, thank you again nut for restoring order.

Nice race Matt, i think it's time for you to take a trip to the midwest where Vette's and Camaro's are more abundant, you can get your Z06 Fix, up here. Speaking of which, i hate winter, you Cali people get to race year round and i'm stuck reading the stories during the winter, it's to cold to even work on any of the cars.

good story redneck

but why do some people on this board seem to believe redneck is a god? Damn his car is quick and georgeous, but some people seem to take it all a bit too serious. Musashi, seriously, your first post made me laugh, you made it sound as if you would worship redneck if you could. Examples: "Redneck is the most beloved character on the street racing forums by far, he is in many of our books the street king!" or "coming in here talking shit about a true to life legend!"

I enjoy reading Red's stories as well, and I really like his car, but you will NEVER see me worshipping someone on an internet message board. Plus, I really think red could have defended himself on this one. Hell, I believe Red, I don't think the z06 driver was the best (girl driver), but I don't think Red would lie. Either way, relax, it's the internet, and speed posted his opinion, guess what, that's what you do on the internet.

Besides, there's always someone faster. Keep up the good work red

:rofl: You guys crack me up... "calling out", "bench racing"... No wonder this forum gets flamed every time I bring it up on another board... Go to any REAL technical automotive site and you will see that they laugh at the petty shit that goes on on a board like this... :lol:

I wasn't "calling" anyone out... I just said BS... OMG, not that, not calling BS on an all mighty 5 post a day member... How on earth could I do such a thing...

and "bench racing", well you can call it what you want, but the fact is, physics is physics, and weight doesn't move itself... sure i was underinformed about the "weight reductions" but who are any of you to say that you've been there with a scale to make sure that it really has dropped weight... maybe it is fatter than stock right now, and all you are none the wiser... anyone every consider that...

maybe z06 trannies only lose 12% through the drivetrain, putting their RWHP and hp/lbs way above the datsun...

some of you take your internet forum race posting WAYYY to seriously... I bet most of you go out looking for a race, JUST so you can post it on here and get a pat on the back... woo hoo, that would be sweet...

If he truly was pullin the Z06, then I'm wrong... If he didn't pull the Z06, then I'm right... and the ONLY person who can really know the truth about that is redneck and the girl in the car... Just because I have believe all of his other race stories doesn't necessarily mean that I have to believe this one... Just because he is well regarded here doesn't mean he can't make a mistake...

How can any of you, including redneck say that it wasn't just a regular c5 with z06 badges on it? He never got to stop and talk with the girl about it... He never checked the vin... Hell I see 5 cars a day with type-r and vtec stickers and they don't even know what the hell it means...

z06 numbers are proven time and again... when i see a 12.0 timeslip out of the datzun, then I'll buy into the story whole heartedly, but until then, I'm just not convinced... simple as that...

that doesn't have to mean shit to any of you... hate me if you want, flame me if you want, but forgive me for expecting just a tad bit of PROOF...

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-Garrett

That was awesome redkneck, totally awesome. To be able to pull even slightly on an LS1/LS6 is bragging rights IMO, becuase those engines just will not quit.

Even though it wasn't a side by side race, alteast now you know about what to expect from a Z06 for your next run in with one (provided its not had a cam swap--and if you get one that does, you'll know, lol--but again, maybe this one did).

Sounds like that girl could work that 6-spd. pretty good.

Congrats. again for holding your own (and then a little more) on an LS6. Now you'll have to set your sites on the upcoming LS7, lol.

good story redneck

but why do some people on this board seem to believe redneck is a god? Damn his car is quick and georgeous, but some people seem to take it all a bit too serious. Musashi, seriously, your first post made me laugh, you made it sound as if you would worship redneck if you could. Examples: "Redneck is the most beloved character on the street racing forums by far, he is in many of our books the street king!" or "coming in here talking shit about a true to life legend!"


I wassnt trying to fight Red's fight for him. and worship? you cant deny that there is a sort of Panda fan club on here. I love the old imports and specially the Datsuns, Red delivers. theres alot of people waisting thread space here including me! Red is the real deal and its not that I worship anyone but I will stand up for the guys I see contribute to this forum. I would do the same for anyone of you if I saw someonelese was being a douche for no reason. I guess I just like jumping into fights cause thats what I do best. Redneck can defend himself just fine and I'm sure his respond wont be preaty, I saw an opportunity to stand up for someone I think should be respected and I took it. if I went too far then oh well.
as for Redneck being the "street king", Ive said that to him a few times and I'm not the only one who thought so. and as for him being a "beloved charatcer"......cant deny that either, we all root for the panda. who the hell here was reading that story and hoping he would loose? anyone? anyone at all? right then, I didnt think so. and as far as opinions go, yeah I understand that this is the internet but when opinions try to be passed as fact then I complain.

and the ONLY person who can really know the truth about that is redneck and the girl in the car...

-Garrett

THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

Not that he needs, or cares about, your belief/trust/respect, then take his word for it. He's earned at least that in here. YOU haven't, so take your grade-school math, and go back to the "other forums", and feel free to flame any way you want. WE DON'T CARE.

I can send you there, if you want.

I can send you there, if you want.

could ya? :)

project_speed

how fast do you think the panda is in the 1320?
add up his rwhp and weight alone and tell me what you think he might be running.

then tell me the times for a Z06

then put together that the chick started behind him and would most likely not floor it from the jump afraid of possibly running into the back of him.

i dont get it, what didn't make sense to you?

and paper racer since you have so much overwhelming knowledge, do drivers have anything to do with races

even if the cars were between .4-3 seconds in time.

:grinno: your bs flag was a ignorant call. it all adds up pretty accurate

WOW...nice race Redneck....Id say you can beat pretty much any car out there save for the top three kings(Enzo,MB Mclarlen,Porsche Carrera GT)..aww heck wait you can fuck up all them cars because there heavy overpriced pieces of shit with over-sized 10's and 12's... and couldnt run 11's on a lucky day......dont waste your time on piece of shit Corvettes there made out of fiberglass and if you crash them they will crumple like woah not to mention thier 3000+ curbwieght is like trying to get a cart full of lead to move even with 350-400HP....All hail The Panda...Fastest car in the west!!!

Oh christ, kid. If I were you I'd delete that post...haha.

Project_Speed, Now you've pissed off the old man calling my boy's story BS. I'm trying very hard to refrain from calling you a ASSHOLE so I won't, but you have know idea, none whatsoever what your talking about. Your little post about power to weight ratio and Mr.RedNeck383 Zed being able to put the hurt on a ZO6 shows your lack of knowledge about the automobile. You have no idea what he has in or done to his car and to come on here and make a statement like you did you owe RedNeck383 and the Panda a apology.
As for his story, I have no doubts it's fact and true. His credentials and credibility has been established and he's paid his due's and earned his spot.
You, you have nothing, just a wannabe letting your alligator mouth over load your tweety bird ass.
I have a little Zed I drive around that turn's the 1/4 in 9.79s so don't common with all your fact an figure shit or i'll stuff it up your A$$ so far it'll never see daylight. :flipa:

could ya? :)


Ohhh...I think hes calling you out carrrnuttt...

See, heres what happened. You came in here and insulted someone that some of us consider a 'freind' (I put it in quotes, becuase I try not to call people whom I have never met friends...Of course, I also dated a girl for almost a year before meeting her, but thats neither here nor there). Now then, say you have a freind, and a bunch of people start talking shit about him. Your gonna stand up for him, right? Thats whats happening here. So I would really recomend you stop claiming BS on this, becuase Red has no reason, nor need, to BS us.

Project_Speed, Now you've pissed off the old man calling my boy's story BS. I'm trying very hard to refrain from calling you a ASSHOLE so I won't, but you have know idea, none whatsoever what your talking about. Your little post about power to weight ratio and Mr.RedNeck383 Zed being able to put the hurt on a ZO6 shows your lack of knowledge about the automobile. You have no idea what he has in or done to his car and to come on here and make a statement like you did you owe RedNeck383 and the Panda a apology.
As for his story, I have no doubts it's fact and true. His credentials and credibility has been established and he's paid his due's and earned his spot.
You, you have nothing, just a wannabe letting your alligator mouth over load your tweety bird ass.
I have a little Zed I drive around that turn's the 1/4 in 9.79s so don't common with all your fact an figure shit or i'll stuff it up your A$$ so far it'll never see daylight. :flipa:

so you have a 9.79sec car... and it happens to be the same make/model as his... :gives:

what does that have to do with this?

I suppose I probably should have read the FAQ first so that I'd have know that redneck was an accredited member with official credentials an all... then I would have known to bow down and agree with whatever he said...

in my book it takes a lot more than some posts on a message board to consider someone a reliable and credible source... maybe that's all it takes for you guys...

if ur gonna ban me, ban me, if not, don't... either way i'm done responding to this post... i have better things to do... :)

Boohoohoo! :(

Redneck,
The next time you kill a domestic don't post it in a place where you might possibly hurt someones feelings. :iceslolan

Somebody just step in and ban him. He even said he doesn't care!

Hmmm...I must get in on this as well...these are my observations.
Reddizzle=never BS's
project_speed=must have been the middle child, because this is his way of BEGGING for attention.
Z06=definitely fast, but not the end-all fastest car in the west
300 hp panda=is a drivers race with a Z06.
I have no clue why project_speed got all butt-hurt about Red posting his story...I also, as many of you have already made clear, don't agree with the paper racing theory, there are just too many variables on the street that could swing either direction for either car...this shouldn't be a "who's car is faster" board, that's not the point. We are just objectively posting our experiences...hell I'll use an example that I posted a ways back...I posted a story about how I "kept up with a C5 vette through the twisties"...everyone immediately called BS on me...then I posted more details...the guy was grey haired, maybe a little past middle aged, so maybe his reflexes and/or driving skill were past their prime...the C5 was also a convertible, which would take away from the structural rigitidy of the chassis...the C5 was bone stock and I have aftermarket sport springs that make my car handle better...I knew he was actually TRYING because his back end was twitching out of the medium-speed corners every time and throwing up gravel and small pieces of asphalt up onto my windshield...it was also the road I lived on, so I knew the road very well, as I had been driving the road twice a day(or more) for the last 5 years....now that I've added in the details, doesn't my story make more sense? I know this was a long post to try to make a single point...the point is, once you hit the road, all "paper racing" takes a back seat to the real world. Ok I'm done.

could ya? :)

You're welcome.

You have 7 days, if you feel like sticking your head out of your ass. Otherwise, it's been "real" (annoying).

Whoa whoa... calm down kids. It's all good. I can see where he's coming from...


For all of those who stick up for me. Thanks, but it's not needed. I can answer all of his questions.

First off, Yes I have a Nissan SR20DET motor swapped into my '72 240z. That includes the Silvia 5 speed the comes with it, so the clunky ass Z speed I had before no lives in my buddies Z.

Anywho, so that answers if my tranny can handle the SR20. Indeed, the misshift was totally my fault (indeed I was tired from work but it's still my fault). I ain't perfect. Even pro-racers misshifts, although probably not as bad as I did. :lol:

Ok onto weight reduction.

Stock S30 240z weighs in like you said. Around 2350lbs. That's with the iron block L24 2.4L Inline 6 motor and a rather beefy old school 4 speed tranny. Beefy meaning fat and heavy, not nessicarily strong.

When I got my SR20DET, it came in on a palet. With the transmission, driveshaft, ECU, Harness, Intake, Exhaust manifold + turbo, all the smog equiptment and some random frass that was tossed out. All said and done, the shipping form read that it all weighed 400lbs on that palet.

The L24 itself weighs just over that by itself in long block form. I know you know what that means. But for those of you who don't that means with out manifolds and goodies attached.

So I dropped around, 200-250lbs with the help an All-aluminum motor four cylinder. Now, off the motor I ditched the Powersteering pump, the a/c compressor and the clutch/fan assembly. That all weighed around 40lbs.

In the interior, I've stripped out the rear. Meaning no full size sparetire, I had two jacks in the car, and the carpetting was removed. Along with the heater box, blower box and ducting. That all together was around 60lbs. (the heater box was stupidly heavy!)

~200 + 40 + 60 = ~300lbs

Now, the car should be sitting around 2100lbs... and about 2300lbs with me in the car and a full tank of fuel. Like I was lastnight.

Now, you mentioned suspenion and the Z06. Ah yes, here's the funny little thing that happened to my Z when I did the swap. Before said swap, it handled fairly good. I have only Tokico lowering springs, thats the extent of my suspension mods for now. With all the weight of the Inline 6, the car was a bit nose heavy and fairly balanced. Now, cause of the lightweight SR20 sitting just aft of the front cross member. It's incredibly light in the nose, especially when you goose the living piss outta the poor girl.

This, as any drag racer knows. With a light nose it throws the nose up, and sends all the weight to the rear. I have a 3.90 gear ratio R200 open diff (for now), with all the weight being thrown to the rear. It actually hooks up fairly well for being 'stock suspension'. It handles like a goddamn buick in the twisties now cause it has no weight to preload the suspension. But it's hell comin off the line... well as good as just about any 'street' drivin car.

And that chick knew how to drive, I was highly impressed.

I can't think of anything else to say on the subject at the moment... but I hope I've made some sense for you. If you've got any more questions/comments please ask Project_Speed duder.


And people, My car isn't a godly car. Sure it's fairly quick, but there are cars out there that'll straight make me look like a 16 second car. But thanks for your kind words, I'll be sure to pass them onto the Panda herself. :p

:banghead:


Doh... Carrrnuttt banned him.

He'll be back Red, he'll see your post!

:banghead:


Doh... Carrrnuttt banned him.
He did ask...you know me, I'm all about "the people".

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/sunglasses.gif

:lol:...

Well, What can I say... you're more of a "people" person than I am....

Here, you should post this.

http://www.bottomliner.com/saltflats.jpg

This, as any drag racer knows. With a light nose it throws the nose up, and sends all the weight to the rear

Yeah, that's all fine untill your front tires start leaving the ground, lol. An inch or two is acceptable, if not desired, but anything above 6 or 8 inches makes the first 60 ft a little "radical" to drive.

Hahah, so true.

I have what I like to call, WWIWT LSD*. It's a rather astounding piece of technology. :D

I think I have a LSD unit, but I think she's worn out. Cause sometimes it'll hook nice like it should with a LSD. Sometimes not.

It's got a mind of it's own.


*Works When It Wants To

Alot of the times you can change your rear end grease and solve that problem (I'm assuming LSD means limited slip differential).

My dad's truck has somethign similar (its GMs version of a locking differential-one tires pulls under normal conditions, but when one slips, they both pull up untill a certain wheel speed) and his just quit pulling all together one day. Changed the rear end grease and now it works just as its supposed to (its a 91 model, so its got some age on it as well, not 30 years, but you get my drift).

:rofl: First of all, I'm not a newbie to AF... I've been registered since Dec. 03'... Count it, that's 6 MONTHS LONGER THAN YOU, fukin newb... :loser:

I have seen many of rednecks posts, and you are correct, I've never seen him BS before, but I just happen to think that this was exaggerated a little... My old name is hot_red_z28 if you'd like to check that out... I've only reregistered because I've switched cars... My 450hp nitrous powered Z28 wasn't quite enough for me... Of course you wouldn't know anything about that with your little 16+second 3kGT... :lol:

I also don't care if someone doesn't like me on here... I post what I believe to be the facts... If I accidently rub someone the wrong way because I try to get to the truth, then I'm sorry, but so be it... This is an internet message board in case you didn't notice, there is more to life...

I'm not sure if i'm impotent or not, we'll have to ask your mother that question...

Also, I didn't determine the race outcome with pencil and paper, some us can do that simple math in your heads... once you get your GED you prolly will be able to too... :)

"True to life legend"... :rofl: LMFAO... I'm sure redneck is a great guy and all, but man, this is the internet, have you ever met him? heard about him on other boards? Gimme a break... you know nothing about him except for reading some of his posts here...

You're right too, I am very jealous... :lol: My current project motor is a fully forged 383 LT1 stroker engine dynoed to 480hp... also built for a 250rwhp (that's right, RWHP) shot of nitrous... So I'm insanely jealous of him and YOU with your pimp ass mitsu... Rippin up the streets, ownin them OHC neons... go you...

again you flex your internet muscles saying you "will hand my ass over to me..." please... I could play the game too and say "oh well why don't you try it bitch, i'll show you", but what does that accomplish, this is a message board, nothing else...

P.S. Since some people took offense to this (like the all mighty protector above), I guess I should let redneck know that there was no disrespect intended by my post, I was simply displaying the things I doubted... If he has in fact done weight reductions like you say and is running with a weight of 2000lbs, then yes, that would definately make a difference it is possible that he pulled on one some... I was just going by the information I had from his sig and other tech info sites...

-Garrett


480 HP z28 watch out everyone. Hes one of a kind... :rolleyes:


NEWSFLASH!!!!!!! While they are impressive, a zo6 in not a vheicle of the gods... They are very beatable.

Kick ass job on the vette! :iceslolan welcome to team "vettes suck the major big one club. :icon16: "

P.s.... you should buy my TE-63 :biggrin:

hey, i like vettes, leave em alone

yeah ban the basturd....hahahahaha no one disses the god Redneck....480HP camaro woo whooo!!! stills a piece of shit..so what it goes 0-60 inunder 6 seconds now????? last time i checked rednecks posted 0-60 time was around 3.8-4.2 seconds!!! beat that shit!!!!

:::i estimated his 0-60 time because a stock POS Z06 hits 60 in a "respectable" time of 5.3s while a stock C5 hits 60 in 6.0s..so i guessed in order to have beaten the Vette he had to of hit 60 in well below 5 seconds and maybe grabs a 3.8s time check

Someones gonna get banned...two in one day...wow.

yeah ban the basturd....hahahahaha no one disses the god Redneck....480HP camaro woo whooo!!! stills a piece of shit..so what it goes 0-60 inunder 6 seconds now????? last time i checked rednecks posted 0-60 time was around 3.8-4.2 seconds!!! beat that shit!!!!

:::i estimated his 0-60 time because a stock POS Z06 hits 60 in a "respectable" time of 5.3s while a stock C5 hits 60 in 6.0s..so i guessed in order to have beaten the Vette he had to of hit 60 in well below 5 seconds and maybe grabs a 3.8s time check


Whoa... I never posted any times. Nor do i assume I can pull a 0-60 in 3.8-4.2 seconds.


Z06's are not POS's. They're damn good cars for the money.

Just chill man, and stop callin me God...goddammit.

:uhoh: shit is creepin me out... :lol2:

redneck, detroitmuscle15 is burntrice

Didn't I ban him?