Wheelzzz....

As some of you probably read, I've been contemplating some massive 19" wheels for my P11... (yeah yeah they're heavy...) ;)

I currently have 18" x 7" wheels with an offset of 42, the wheels I want are 19" x 7.5" (not sure on the offset, but knowing Racing Hart its probably 42 as well)


here's my concern...

with the 7" wheels, in the front I am AWFULLY close to that "beam" in front of the strut. my concern is that with a 7.5" wheel I will rub. I know its only a half inch but still... even to get 1 rim w/ a tire to test fit will run me $800 as the set of four will be $3200


I know some of you have 18x7.5's, but for those who do, is your car lowered?

if so what springs/suspension setup do you have?

does it rub?

hello? :(

where the heck is everyone that told me they had 7.5" wide wheels? :confused:

Hey b00gie!

I don't have 7.5's on my car but I will tell you this. Any time you go wider, you are going to run the chance of rubbing. My suggestion to you is a simple one that you can do yourself and it won't cost you a thing. Try and park your car somewhere you can get under it. Then have someone get in the car and turn it all the way and holding it there. If you already have 7's on, you could literally measure by sight the 1/2 difference and you'll know definitely if they will rub. As for the wheel wells, you're on your on that one. Can't think of a way without putting the tire and testing it.

not worried about the wheel wells as the outside diameter of 19's will not change compared to the tires i have on my 18's...


as far as jacking it up and looking, i guess i could try that, but it will be a pain cause i cant just jack up the car on one corner.... i'll have to jack up the whole front and lift the wheels to the typical ride height to get an accurate measurement due to the upper link arm/beam

heh.. and call me crazy but i'm not to crazy about crawling under a car on jack stands!!

No! Don't jack it up. It won't be accurate. I mean somewhere where you will have room to get under it and the wheels will sit normally. Let me know if that helps.

I agree with getting under a jacked up car too!!:D

well, i'll probably be no help here but i have some 18x7.5in wheels and 215/40 rated tires and i dont rub at all but thats only because i still have my stock suspension but i do plan on lowering it with either eibach pro-kits or some tein s.tech's haven't decided yet :D but i'll let you know how it turns out...

Originally posted by b-b00gie
hello? :(

where the heck is everyone that told me they had 7.5" wide wheels? :confused:

Sorry dude cant help you out.....18x7 on mine.

I would say at a guess you may get some rubbing as i know there is not much room with 7's

b00gie, it's no problem for you to get 19x7.5 wheels as long as the offset is correct. I dont know exactly what offset you should get, but for 7inch wide wheels, 35-42mm offset is okay for the car...but i am using examples from 17" wheels though.

hey luke.. do you have a RH catalog handy that you could find out what the offset on the 3pc M5's are in 19x7.5 i'm guessing it'll be 42mm for the 7.5

is 45mm offset too much?:confused:

on a 7" wheel you can probably get away with it..

guys, while I was putting on the TEIN's last weekend, I noticed that the maximum offset our cars can take with a 1.75inch lowered ride is 7 inches width wheel with 42-48mm offset. anything more/less will either stick out of the fender wheel (which is butt ugly and an embarrassment that you can't do your calculations right) or will come extremely close to rubbing the vertical beam on the suspension arms. I got myself some 17x7's today with 45mm offset and notice only an 8mm gap between the beam and the sidewall of the 215/45's. this is running pretty darn close. with a 7.5inch wheel, you will most-likely rub or stickout the wheel from the fender well. this is a FF car, take it easy on the offset especially on the front. also, you have got to lower your car if you want the low profile tires to look good. you should keep your 18's that you got and work on lowering your car.

do it the right way. first lower the car, then get wheels and tires.

Originally posted by kenchan
guys, while I was putting on the TEIN's last weekend, I noticed that the maximum offset our cars can take with a 1.75inch lowered ride is 7 inches width wheel with 42-48mm offset. anything more/less will either stick out of the fender wheel (which is butt ugly and an embarrassment that you can't do your calculations right) or will come extremely close to rubbing the vertical beam on the suspension arms. I got myself some 17x7's today with 45mm offset and notice only an 8mm gap between the beam and the sidewall of the 215/45's. this is running pretty darn close. with a 7.5inch wheel, you will most-likely rub or stickout the wheel from the fender well. this is a FF car, take it easy on the offset especially on the front.

That doesn't hold true for a P10.

I'm running 17x7.5 45mm offset ADR M-Classics with 205/40-17. No rubbing anywhere. It's close though.

George Roffe

yah, I'm talking P11. don't know about P10's.

Originally posted by P10DET


That doesn't hold true for a P10.

I'm running 17x7.5 45mm offset ADR M-Classics with 205/40-17. No rubbing anywhere. It's close though.

George Roffe

What suspension set up are you running George ?

I have 17's wheels and can not decise between KYB/AGX's with Eibachs or Intrax....now because the INTRAX ride is lower from what I have seen but the Eibach is supposed to be better quality but not as low .....

i have 18x7 w/ 42mm offset and i think you could go as far as 40mm offset before your wheel would stick out of the fender (at 40mm it would be flush)

i think i'll be getting my 19x7.5's w/ 43mm offset soon

wait wait, don't forget that your tires are wider than the wheels. your wheel might not stick out, but your tire sidewall will. if you are planning to use those wheels, get narrow tires like 195 width so that you can pull the sidewall towards the center of the wheel.

my 45mm 17x7's with 215/45's are probably the farthest I could accept going outward. the rear can probably accept 7.5".

well, at the end, if the tires do stick out, you can always put on those fender trimmings that will give you another 8mm to play.

Originally posted by kenchan
wait wait, don't forget that your tires are wider than the wheels. your wheel might not stick out, but your tire sidewall will. if you are planning to use those wheels, get narrow tires like 195 width so that you can pull the sidewall towards the center of the wheel.

my 45mm 17x7's with 215/45's are probably the farthest I could accept going outward. the rear can probably accept 7.5".

well, at the end, if the tires do stick out, you can always put on those fender trimmings that will give you another 8mm to play.


lol..... i have 18x7 w/ 42mm offset and 225/40/18!! btw this is lowered almost 2 inches

a 215 tire is not the max you can go and neither is 45mm... almost everyone here who has wheels on a p11 has about 43mm or 42mm offset.... 40mm would put you flush w/ the fenders

w/ my 225's i could still go w/ another 2 mm offset (go to 40mm) and have the wheels not stick out

they dont make any 195/*/19's so thats not an option...

there is one 215/35/19 but that is a microscopic sidewall...

if i get the 19x7.5's i will go with 225/35/19's

bboogie- lol... it's your car, you do what you want with it. I'm just pointing out my preferences for a FF car... doesn't have any meaning if you have different preferences and your mind is already set. go for it dude. we'll keep cheering for ya. :D hey, if you screw it up, just go back to your 18's. no biggie.

for 19" wheels, u gotta get the 225 tires...actually, i am thinking about running on 225s to see if i can fit them...got Streets of Willow coming up on the 7th, i need some more grip!! :D
with the proper offset, u can fit in 225s...but you do have to get different offset for the front and the rear but that's no big deal.
however i am sticking with my 17s since my car is no show...and not that much go hehe

ken, i was just trying to clear it up because saying that a 215 tire w/ 45mm offset is the max you can do, just isnt true...


luke, i have 225's w/ +42mm front and back. the front is about 1/4 inch away from being flush with the outside of the fender. and the back is still tucked... its a few millimeters away from the inside of the rear fenders (about a quarter to half an inch of my rear tire is tucked).

oh damn...not good for me then...with only a few millimeters, iw ould be chunking up big time tires...thanks for the advice...but then you have 18s so it might be different for 17s...oh well, only way to find out is try!!! hehehe..yeh......

hmm... when i switched suspension the other day, i did some close examining of my tires... no chuncks missing at all.. and not a scratch on the sidewall... *shrug*

btw... these toyo proxes fz4's are the best tire i've ever bought... better than the nitto's i had before... they are lasting way longer!

nittos are okay...i had them before...4 races, within a year and it's gone...
oh, i am sure the 225 would be perfectly fine on the road, i was talking about on the track...with few mm..not good!
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bboogie- dude, read my post... I was saying that 215 on a 45mm is what I (me) would do or accept as max. didn't make any false statement saying that 215 with 45 offset was the absolute physical max you can do on the P11. just to make sure we understand each other...I hate being accused of lying when I'm not. I'm outta here.

ken, from your original post...

Originally posted by kenchan
guys, while I was putting on the TEIN's last weekend, I noticed that the maximum offset our cars can take with a 1.75inch lowered ride is 7 inches width wheel with 42-48mm offset. anything more/less will stick out of the fender wheel (which is butt ugly and an embarrassment that you can't do your calculations right)




call me crazy, but that looks like you're trying to state a fact...


it's ok, i still love ya! lol... :cool:

how do the offset works. for example, i want to purchase some konig toxxins 18x7.5 with 45mm. the rubber is yokos @ 215/35/18. can i do this? and is the bigger the number the closer the wheel? please make understand.

blkghst... basically offset is measured from the center of the wheel... our cars have positive offset, as do 90% of cars...

anyway.. the lower the number is.. the closer to the fender you will be and vice versa... lets say a wheel had 0 offset.. it would be completely centered over the face of your rotor...

you may want to check out http://www.discounttiredirect.com/helpWheelOffsets.html for more info and pics...



i dont think a 45mm offset will work w/ a 7.5" wide wheel... at least on the front anyway..

since you are at 45mm you are pushing the inside of the wheel up against the suspension... i think it will end up rubbing on it...

i think you would be better off w/ a 42 or 43mm so that you move the wheel further away from the suspension and closer to the outside of your car..

what about spacers?

i personally wouldnt use spacers... i'd go for another wheel that fit right.. its up to you.

Originally posted by poppy_morenito
What suspension set up are you running George ?

I have 17's wheels and can not decise between KYB/AGX's with Eibachs or Intrax....now because the INTRAX ride is lower from what I have seen but the Eibach is supposed to be better quality but not as low .....

I have AGX/GCs with 340/275. I'd recommend skipping the Eibach *and* the Intrax and get GCs. They are a bit more expensive, but the ride will actually be better because you won't be bottoming out.

Originally posted by kenchan
yah, I'm talking P11. don't know about P10's.

That's cool. :)

I just didn't see any reference to what platform you were talking about.