15 getting car

Hellow everyone i am 15 and going to turn 16 pretty soon i have been saving money for a car and i now have about 4 grand. What i am asking u guys is i need some help on finding a ggod camaro to buy here are some things i am looking for.
1)able to have alot of modifacations on it also i want it to be able to handle them
2)I want it to be quick
3)Iwant it to be in my buget
4)want it to look good
5) I probably don't want a v6
6)long lasting
7)cheap modifactions
8)any other tips

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Originally posted by Ktate
Hellow everyone i am 15 and going to turn 16 pretty soon i have been saving money for a car and i now have about 4 grand. What i am asking u guys is i need some help on finding a ggod camaro to buy here are some things i am looking for.
1)able to have alot of modifacations on it also i want it to be able to handle them
2)I want it to be quick
3)Iwant it to be in my buget
4)want it to look good
5) I probably don't want a v6
6)long lasting
7)cheap modifactions
8)any other tips


Have you checked how much your insurance premiums will be? It will be quite expensive especially if you are a male.

A V8 is definitely the only option if you want muscle. I owned a V6 for a very short time and traded up to a V8 WS6 because there was not enough muscle in a V6, although more than you would get from a V4.

Good Luck! :sun:

For under 4g, you aren't probable gonna get a nice V8 bird or maro. I think you should consider a V6 model, or a non sport car. I figured out while looking for a car, that muscle/sport cars are NOT the car to buy with a really low budget and not much to spend on it to fix or upgrade it. All the more as you are just turning 16, the insurance would be sky high, not to mention the danger. You have to look within your means, and normally sports cars aren't low budget to buy, insure, and keep running. If you HAVE to have one, i'd really suggest trying to get a V6 though, most V8's for under 4g are going to be beat up, and you don't wanna pout money into it.

We're all car enthusiasts in here, right? So don't think that I can't relate to your dreams. But -cy- in the above post is spot on in the advice that he gives

Despite the best of intentions, people's 1st cars most often don't last long, and usually the faster they go, the more cost and dramas they bring and the quicker their demise.
There's the attention from the Cops (who needs that?), putting yourself and others at risk, and perpetually being broke.
You've saved $4,000 - well done! Why blow it on a fantasy and a money-sink? Gee when I think what I could have done with the money I ended up shoveling into high-drama cars when I was your age ...

How about not blowing your hard-earned on what may end up to be a downhill run, and instead RETAIN and save as much of it as you can so you always have some in reserve for tomorrow .. or so you can still do something today - ie: travel, having fun ... and girls!

Just a suggestion, but think about this:
*1*
Why not satisfy your need-for-speed by joining a club and getting into motorsports? There you can learn, rehearse and PRACTICE way-cool techniques and phenomena like power & drop-throttle oversteer, trail braking and 'polar moments of inertia' with genuine enthusiasts - without ending up sliding backwards through someone's fence and into the trees, as you inevitably would on the street. Believe me, you'll have a heap of fun and gain so much satisfaction through your aquired expertise, which will ride with you thruout your driving years. Hell, it wouldn't take much moolah to buy for example a wicked 2nd-hand Go Kart (which is where most of the best drivers start from) and blitz 'em on the track. Even a 250cc Kart will out accelerate most WRX's, V8's etc - then there's the 500's, monster twin-engined karts - all while being surrounded by like-minded petrol heads and having a ball!
*2*
Use reverse psychology here and for your first wheels buy a big safe old beater, something reliable with 'personality' and a decent stereo, good shocks, brakes, wide wheels etc. Make it a 'no-hassle' Crown Vic sedan or wagon type of vehicle (or something similar) and you will grow to like it because the money you've saved means you can always get where you want to go, when you want to get there. And your friends will love it because everyone can fit in ...
especially the girls in that roomy back seat, where (trust me) "performance" will take on a whole new meaning

:eek:

Anyway, think about it, ok? :)

Ya, when i first got an idea of how much i could spend, i wanted a muscle car. Then i looked around and saw that the only V8 muscle cars i could afford were beaten to hell. I was going to get a Toyota 4x4 pick-up truck, b/c they last forever. Of course as i went along i found more and more cash available to me, so i could actually afford a muscle car (a '98 firebird formula from a dealer and a 4 or 5 year waruntee).

The first month i had my lisence i got pulled over going 75 in a 55, luckily i only got a verbal warning. Since then (over a year ago) i have always been so paranoid of cops, that i drive very slowly, that and i got some common sense. Sometimes i drive really dumb with my friebird, but i do that when there is no one around to get risked, but i still try to do that almost none.

Since you are just getting your lisence i strongly suggest you get something other than a muscle car or sports car.

I got mine for under $4000 :) but I've also put around another $2000 into it so far and am far from done. :) if you want a V-8 bird/Camaro you'll have to look into an older model like mine (it's a 90) if you want something newer your gonna get stuck in v-6 land if you want it for less than 4g's either that or it will be all beat up or have a ton of miles. a word of advice (from personal experience :( ) don't but a 305 if you can help it. the performance is OK but there are very little mods made for them in the aftermarket. if you want a V-8 go 350 there are a lot more mods avalible and you start out faster anyway. other advice, DON'T buy a red one they are cop magnets and your only asking to get pulled over and harassed . (that's why I got blue) and I've never been pulled over once. good luck in you search.:D

If you're going to spend only $4,000 on a pony car, then look at 5.0 Stangs. Not only were they the faster of the 2 (F-Body vs Fox Body) sadly, but they can be picked up relatively cheap.
Also, mods aren't too expensive.

what is up with this board?!? Isn't this suspose to be about T/A and firebirds?? And somebody said get a 5.0 mustang? What is up with that! I'm 17 yrs old and I have had my 1993 Trans Am(first yr of the new body style) since my 16 birthday. I have never been pulled over and never been in a wreck. Also, I have a bunch of mods done to my car. I have put about $1500 in the engine, $1000 into the tranny, and another $1000 into the rear end, and its all been my money! Still haven't gotten pulled over. There is a right time for everything and if you want to go fast go to the track. I'm not trying to take anyones side, but come on, don't talk him out of getting one of the best cars out there!






00' mr2 spyder team moon exhaust, kn
93' T/A engine rebuilt, new cam, new rockers, new computer, kn cold air induction, flowmaster 40 serise cat back exhaust, 3.73 rear end

Well, we aren't saying he will be an idiot with the car. But the thing is, a V8 muscle car in the hands of an inexperienced driver (not saying he is a bad driver, but he doesn't have time under his belt, i barely have anything under my belt). Past that fact, we are pointing out that its probably a better idea to just buy something to last and not break down, then later when money is more plentiful, buy the muscle car. All that aside, firebirds and camaro's are really cool, if you can't get a V8 i would say get something else, its not a muscle car with the V6.

Well as the saying goes, you can't teach an old dog new tricks ... and I guess the reverse is true too

F bodies are fabulous cars - no argument from me -
but perhaps they might not be the ideal 1st car for a kid on a budget?
I got mine for under $4,000 but I've put another $2,000 in it so far and am far from done I have put about $1,500 in the engine, $1,000 into the tranny, and another $1,000 into the rear end, AND IT'S ALL BEEN MY MONEY! (my emphasis)

There's an interesting and relevant article in the February 'Road & Track' magazine, about a guy who can finally afford to, and then goes out and buys a genuine Shelby Cobra. Both he and the author of the article muse about the right time to buy sports cars:I've wanted to do this all my life, to take a trip like this in a Cobra. But it was like a carrot on a stick that I could never reach. When they were $5,000, I was in high school and didn't have $100. When Cobras went for $20,000, I could afford about $900 for a sports car. Ownership was something I never really thought I'd achieve."
I nodded. "There was about one month in my life," I said, "when I could have stretched my finances to the limit and bought one. It was when I got home from Vietnam in 1970 and had all my accumulated combat pay. Cobras were relatively cheap, and I actually considered looking for one. But I decided to visit Europe, get married and finish college instead, so I bought a clapped-out $600 Volkswagen."
As we drove along, I pondered that chain of events and realised I'd probably do it all over again, exactly the same way. A coveted car should never stunt your life, but should make it more rich and interesting. Tom had bought his Cobra at exactly the right time, when the pressure was off and there was nothing to tarnish the moment.

I would actually reccomend an able teenager to get a muscle car if he is willing to take on the responsiblity. I got my Trans Am and equipped all the mods on my own. By paying for it, I appreciate the car more and take better care of it due to the fact that I've had to work for the money. Seeing my responsibility, my father has now decided to help me buy a 2002 Trans Am. I don't think I would be at the level of driving that I am at if I hadn't taken the car seriously. The kid is asking for some help. He'll probably find a way to get the car regardless of our advice. I know that when I was sixteen if anyone told me to buy a "Volkswagon" they would be the last person I would take advice from. Basically, I have become a better driver, taken on responsibilites, and learned how to manage my money from working for something I really wanted. It's not how fast the car can go, but how much you appreciate it's power. I think if the kid wants to get the car then he should find a way to do it.

The only reason I told him to get a Stang over an F-Body was because at $4,000, you're looking at a 3rd gen F-Body. The year of the TPI cars.
They looked GREAT, but performance lacked BIG TIME.
I was trying to help him out in his quest for performance by telling him that it would be more ECONOMICAL to buy a 5.0

If he could spend a bit more, then I'd say to go for an LT1, but $4,000 isn't going to buy a worthwhile LT1 car.
:rolleyes:

If he could spend a bit more, then I'd say to go for an LT1, but $4,000 isn't going to buy a worthwhile LT1 car.
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yeah you are right, but I got mine for 5,000 and it only had 74,000 miles on it. Car runs great.


Oh and by the way blackbird, is that your car in the pic?
If it is I like it, i'm looking at a black 2001 WS6. Have you drove the LT1, if you have how does it differ from the LS1. Is there really that big of a difference?

Well, just for an idea of the feel of the car between an LT1 and LS1 before blackhawk answers: My friend who has been driving his LT1 firebird for like 6 months drove my firebird (same mods) and raced it around. He said the car pulled a LOT higher in the RPM's.