Vr4 Baby

ight well as yall kno i had a lil accident in my n/a 3kgt.... well i talkd to my mom and convinced her that i could afford a vr4.... so i found one

94' 3000gt vr4 51,000 original miles 1 owner for 13,995.00.... wut yall think? is that a good deal?

I should get it as long as my mom can get a loan and the guy doesnt sell it before then

Good deal if it is in good condition...keep your fingers crossed

how long will the loan be for? I borrowed 10k and made it a 3 year loan and my payments are 312/month.

make sure you can really afford it :)

Also expect to be doing the 60k very soon and keep in mind other maintenance costs. Maintenance gets expensive on vr4's

That's a pretty good deal. I paid $10K for my SL with about 66K miles.

what kind of maintence is needed?

Timing belt, water pump, tensioner pulley, etc. I know there is more but cant think of it all. If you go to a dealer expect to shell out as much as 1200

my 60k mile tune up was 1500 but i got i think like 15% discount and that brought down the price about i think 1350. Make sure it goes in every gear good at hight rpm and look under the car and see if there is any tranny leak. The best thing to do is to take it a local dealer and they usually do it for free or its like 30 bucks and they check everything and make sure everything is fine.

I think thats a good deal.

Good Luck

my 60k tune-up was just $300 :)

also, dont forget, your insurance will go up quite a bit too

Insurance should not go up.

A loan on a 94 car will not go more than 3 years. I can almost guarantee that.

Good luck with paying a 14,000$ car off in 3 years if ur 16 - 21. That's what? 388$ a month? WITHOUT APR which would be up above 8 for sure on an old car like that.

Don't do it. It isn't worth it.

I had a 99 3000gt sl that i bought with 35,000 miles on it when i was 17. I traded it in 1 year later with 42,000 miles on it for a 98 vr4. Now that put me in debt because of the previous loan. Let's just say I was paying around 600$ a month on a car payment. I was 18 years old and had a PART time job at a restaraunt making 9.50$ an hour because of a promotion. I could afford it, but not a whole lot else. Good Luck.

Btw, my sl was 388$ and that is doable...so don't take what i said wrong, but if u owe on ur current car...ur in for some debt.

Insurance WOULD most likely go up. Its a high hp car. And I can easily get a loan for 4 years or maybe even more on a 94 car. You just have to know where to go.

Seriously, the best advice I can give you is to hold off a bit until you are sure you can afford it...I thought I could afford one...I took out a loan, combine that with insurance, my rent, my tuition, gas, living expenses, my bills are over 1200 a month, and that isn't what you want to be paying when you are a student...so seriously MAKE SURE YOU CAN AFFORD IT.

^^ listen to him

ight well im not going to be able to get a vr4 until i sell my base 3kgt.... so until then im looking for one... plus im only going to load about 10k anyways .

loan* sorry.... if i can get 6k for my car i should be able to afford a pretty good vr4

Ok. I owned a 99 SL. I traded it into the same dealership where i bought it from for a 98 VR4. MY INSURANCE DID NOT GO UP. I owned my vr4 around 1 year. YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW THE RIGHT INSURANCE COMPANIES. I guess it helps my mom does insurance but nevertheless. When u switch from a base/sl to a vr4, let me know how ur insurance goes till then...don't worry about it.

A SL shows up to the insurance company as a 3.0L v6 DOHC engine. A vr4 shows the same to the company I had. Why? Who knows. Some companies don't know the different trims I guess or My company was retarded.

I also thought insurance would be killer when i switched. Take in the AWD and TT v6 and u'd think it's a killer combo. Well it wasn't for me and my experience.

As far as a loan goes. Yeah get a 4 year loan on a 94 car and pay 12% APR financing a year if u want. The point was, anything higher than 3 ur gonna seriously pay for it. May I ask what ur current financial situation is on ur current vehicle? Is it on a loan? Do u still owe on it?

going from a base/sl to a VR4 will most definitely make your insurance go up (unless you are carrying liability only)

Every vehicle has a "symbol". The symbol determines how expensive the full coverage will be. Symbols go from 1-9 and then A-Z. The closer to 1, the less expensive the car, the closer to Z, the more expensive. A Base/SL has a symbol of M or something a 91-96 VR4 has a symbol of S. a 97+ VR4 has a symbol V.

It will go up.

going from a base/sl to a VR4 will most definitely make your insurance go up (unless you are carrying liability only.


Once again, Not true in all situations.

Why?

I had FULL coverage on both cars. Now, have u gone from a base/sl to a vr4? Someone who has please respond, otherwise...shut the face.

You really need to STFU. Did you happen to read Gateways sig? Hes a fucking insurance agent you tool bag. I think he knows what hes talking about, unlike you.

I will not argue with you anymore, but I am right.

Guys keep it civil

Yah real civil.

Did u read my post???

i was stating what i experienced and i wanted to see someone elses experience from switching cars.

Now since i'm such a fucking toolbag, what part of that did u not understand? I'm tired of your attitude. Chill out. You don't know me and I dont' know you. I don't have a problem with you and you shouldn't with me. It's the internet. I was simply stating what i experienced and maybe he should check and get a quote on himself from different companies and see.

PS> Stop responding to what i say to people and taking it in as your own damn business.

a little from both sides here....

i'll side with Jag that upgrading 3/S trims might not affect insurance. yes, sometimes insurance companies can get mixed up and not know the full engine power. But contrary to what we (consumers) would think, insurance is not based upon the horsepower of the engine.

Gateway could back me up on this. He just briefly described the "rating" system that insurance companies use to evaluate the price to insure a certain car. This rating is based upon many different variables, one of which is price/availability of parts and the price it takes to repair vehicles. Common sense tells us that import cars would be more expensive to repair b/c their parts are imported, and thus are more expensive than parts made domestically for domestic cars. Take this case in point:

I had the opportunity to sell my 93 3000GT base and get a 94 Camaro Z28...and i would have saved $70 on insurance per month if i were to have gotten the Z28! i was confused, so i asked the insurance lady, and she told me about this rating system. i even threw in the fact that the Z28 had a 5.7L V8 and was around 300+hp. Still she maintained that it would be cheaper to insure the domestic Z28 rather than the import 3000GT, based on the variables calculated in the rating system.

So just b/c your upgrading cars, upgrading engines, etc. doesn't NECESSARILY mean insurance will go up. You should take into account the YEAR of the car as well (most likely a newer car will cost more the repair than an older car).

And i agree with the Moderators: keep it civil guys.

I will guarantee you that going from a base/sl to a vr4 will increase your insurance rates. the ONLY reason why it would not is 1) you are carrying liability only or 2) the insurance company didn't get the VIN right and thinks it's still a base/sl.

I will bet 10 years of salary on it.

Just out of my own curiousity...what does a vr4 show up as on insurance...? I confirmed it once again last night with my mother in illinois that I had full coverage on both cars. Once again, maybe I was just lucky but I still think the car went on as a 3.0L v6 DOHC. What I find so interesting was when the car was totaled and the guy was asking what options the car came with, he had no idea it came TT and with AWD AWS. Even though the badge on the side of the 98 vr4 in the black are says "TWIN TURBO." But uh yeah.

I checked my insurance policy and my vr4 shows up as this:
1996 Mitsu 3000 Gt Vr+2h

An easy way to solve this would be for someone to go to progressive or geiko's website and get policy quotes for both a vr4 and an SL using identical info for both quotes, with the exception of the trim being different...and then it would solve this.

I have progressive for my insurance. I just quoted myself replacing my 1992 vr4 with a 1992 sl

Quote in Progress
Vehicle Replaced: 1992 Mitsu 3000 Gt Vr+2h with 1992 Mitsu 3000 Gt Sl.

Effect on Premium for the Entire Policy Term
The following information is provided for comparison purposes only.
Premium Prior to Change: $714.00
Premium After Change: $638.00

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Difference: $76.00 decrease


now, from vr4 to base


Quote in Progress
Vehicle Replaced: 1992 Mitsu 3000 Gt Vr+2h with 1992 Mitsu 3000 Gt.


Effect on Premium for the Entire Policy Term
The following information is provided for comparison purposes only.
Premium Prior to Change: $714.00
Premium After Change: $587.00

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Difference: $127.00 decrease



Not to rub it in, but since I am an auto insurance agent, I would hope people would trust me.

Alright, thanks for taking the time to get the numbers Gateway...I'll consider this closed unless anyone else has anything worthwhile to add.