how fast is to fast

how fast do u thkn u can have a daily driver and still hvae it fun to drive on teh road. its not fun driving a 10 sec. car in traffic even if its light traffic.. how much hp do u thnk is enough??? jus wonderin

how much hp is enough? well it depends on the car and personall preference

me and my vr4, 550hp would be enough, i would quite right there


i promise i would

Nah, 125 HP Civic. There's what you need. That's not too much power for anyone. Anything more is just NUTS!! There would be chaos if nearly half the world didn't own a Civic. It's true, I swear, just about every other car I see nowadays is Civic. On your way home, count how many you see just driving on the way. You'd be surprised that about 50% of the cars you see is a Civic.

Back on topic, Honestly, depending on what you know you can handle, and what isn't dangerous to those around you is your personal deal. If you can handle a 500HP TA, or a 9 Sec Honda, then I guess you really can't say there's such a thing is too much. But that's just my personal input. Late...

I didn't know there was a to fast...

I think it depends on the car. Like 550hp like youngVR4 said might really not be too much :screwy: (j/k) for a AWD 3500lbs+ car like his. Im sure he could put most that power down with out spinning all over the place everytime he touches the gas peddle. However 550hp would be way to much for say a old school E30 M3 BMVeh like im looking for. Its 2700lbs RWD so im only looking for 350hp. Anymore then that and I would be spinning all over the place. And IMO thats where it becomes too much hp, when you cant put down most of your hp. However knowing when its too much is very different then to "stop moding" when its too much :uhoh:

I am thinking I should be at 475 RWHP this summer, and once it gets boosted, over 700 RWHP. I should be about done then.

400hp for a daily drive. 600hp+ for the weekend warrior.

i say a 12sec car is good daily driver, anything after that can be a bitch to drive, but if you are doing 12sec then you naturally will have the hp to go along with that time, so it does vary, but 12sec car is my limit...
but then again my boys have 11sec and a 9sec rx7 that they drive to work and back evey day, more the 11sec rx then 9 and they dont have much problems but they do have alot ALOT of self control..

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Id be happy with an E46 ///M3 with about 350-400 wheel. That would be mid 11s to low 12s. Maybe very high 10s to low-mid 11s. Basically, it would be cool, fast, and handle well. And be usefull in everyday driving.

With my FWD..I'm stopping at around 300-350. With an AWD car you can go a bit higher since its easier to control for street driving. BUT, the biggest factor in this whole equation is SELF CONTROL! If you can control your urges and not be too dangerous on the streets with any car, then really, there is no limit for you.

Personally I wouldn't want a car that has too much hp as a daily driver, just because the car would have too much time and money put into it, and wouldn't want it wrecked. I would just get a POS daily driver.

turbo2nr..I bet they run real low boost on the way to work.

i've had my for 2 months now and i still can't handle it. eventualy i will be able to, but i can't imagine it with 300 hp, i couldn't drive one of those. i think my car is plenty fast, and i have to use self control as well.

it all comes down to the driver, and what he can handle.

uh. you can't handle a 15 second fwd car?

dampachi, i was wondering the same thing, lol.

It's a 14 second FWD car, and any FWD car with a lot of horsepower is scary to drive (torque steer). If I ever get a real job, I'm gonna invest in the V2 supercharger kit, which will put my car somewhere between 350-380 hp at the crank...of course I'd also have to beef up the tranny, get bigger injectors etc...but I think that would be enough for me right there.

Nah, a pro driver gets 14.9 in an eclipse GS-T..so someone who can't handle the car is going to get like...a 15.5.

For crying out loud! my sister drives a GS-T (yes its manual) and she always complains about how everyone these days is driving wayyyyy faster cars! she even put down 15.4 at the track in west palm! I guess Treefrog would kill himself in an SRT-4!

my boy had a 93 Talon TSI and it was about 11 sec. car, It was a biatch to drive on the street, the clutch was too heavy, the car would stall if you tried to take off at 2500 rpms, it was just a pain. we only built it for track use.
Different cars handle HP differently. a nissan 240 with 300 hp will scare the crap out of you where an STI can handle it just fine and still leave you wanting more. I'd say between 300whp and 400whp on a FWD, 400whp and 550whp on a RWD and an AWD could handle around 600WHP just fine day to day. when you get tired from driving your car and start wishing you owned an auto, then you've over done it!

12s aren't near fast enough for my daily driver. I'll stop at 10s! :biggrin:

all i want is something fun...take a 240sx with about 165hp and add like ...50 or so...thats plenty for me. im not interested in high power as you can see by my car.

yea they run "low boost (15psi)" for daily driving but they hardly ever go into boost on local streets, they mostly run off boost when driving around hence the "self contorl"

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okay i know i can't handle it. but i got TON's of good reason.

first off i learned how to drive a manual on it 2 months ago. and it had a performance clutch of some kind. it engages right off the floor. and its winter up here. i only get to go fast like twice so far. so i have no experience. also i have winter tires on right now, so they don't handle very well obviously

It's definitely all in the driver. To me, my truck was just fine for a daily driver, could even use a lil more power (I recently bought a Jeep for winter duties, the truck will still come out every day the sun is shining and the roads are clear). I let a friend drive my truck and it scared the piss out of him, and he didn't even go full throttle, all depends on what you're used to. You do have to be careful tho, I won't go full throttle on any side streets or near any traffic, just because there's too many things that can go wrong. Get me on an open road tho, and my foot's thru the floor :grinyes:

well, i know where treefrog is coming from. i drove a 88 crown vic before i got my J30... it's a world of difference.. about 2k pounds lighter and 20 less horsepower... it's insane when you punch it... it's a diffrent world when your not used to the car... sure, now I can hit 120 without flinching... but when i first got my car, it was a breathtaking experiance. It's hard to handle a lighter car compared to a tank.

first off i learned how to drive a manual on it 2 months ago. and it had a performance clutch of some kind. it engages right off the floor.

When your clutch catches right off the floor its usually cause its worn out. when you press it down how far down do you press it in before you feel ressistance? do you fell ressistance right when you put your foot on it? one third way down? half way down or almost at the floor?

2 words : Acura NSX

Fast, lots of HP, fun to drive, easy to handle. Get a mid-90s one of these bad boys for like $30,000...and bam, your set.


:)

IMO, anything more than 15 lbs per HP is overkill for a daily driver. With less than that, the extra power can be justified to get yourself out of bad situations. First mods for a daily driver should be appropriate tires for the conditions you drive in, then brakes, then suspension, then power mods. This is purely based on survivability of emergency situations of the car, and those mods will help you the best avoid or get out of the bad situations.

well i got a 14 second FWD car and right now its pretty good as a daily driver. Its got lots of pickup for passing and such. Sometimes i forget how much pickup it really has, and i will punch it from like 30MPH roll and the car just shoots off catching me off guard. Torque steer really isnt a problem cause the cavaliers have a pretty stiff steering wheel. Im shooting to make it a 13 second daily driver, ill be more than happy with that.

In all honesty there is no straight answer to this question. It all depends on the car and the driver.

2 words : Acura NSX
290hp and 224tq isn't exactally stageringly high... Especially for a car that costs 85k, for something with the same sized engine I'd rather get a boxter S.. at least that way your rear end wont look like an accords, plus its a Porsche (which is known for making rare fast beautiful cars) and not a honda (which is known for making lots of slow boxy cars).

haha...treefrog..that's great..."oh, it has some sort of performance clutch." but it's just a worn out clutch. hahah.

2 words : Acura NSX

Fast, lots of HP, fun to drive, easy to handle. Get a mid-90s one of these bad boys for like $30,000...and bam, your set.


:)

Kidding right??

Lots of HP?? Not really. NSX's are just overpriced. WAY overpriced.

I could think of MUCH better ways to spend $30K.

na its a performance clutch. i had it looked at, at a tuner shop becuause i too thought it was worn out. i wanted to put an ACT clutch in. They looked at it and said it was adjusted to catch right off the floor. some guys do that because its better for racing. i don't know the brand of it because you'd have to dig around to see it they said.

i'm getting my a/c clutch replaced this weekend under warrenty, i'll have the dealership double check it.

The NSX is one of the most gorgeous cars ever built, which alone would justify the 30k price tag of a used one...throw in 270hp at 3000 lbs, and you have yourself a pretty fast little sled, with the looks of an exotic...."a back end that looks like a honda accord"? You're kidding me, right?

IMO, anything more than 15 lbs per HP is overkill for a daily driver.
Mine's only 8.8lb/hp...that's with me in the truck...oh, and that's at the wheels :grinyes:
7lb/hp without me in the truck and at the crank :ylsuper:

Is that too much? :eek7:

Nah

New the NSX is overpriced....and out dated. Used i might think about one, but still 30k... thats a Evo or STI which would beat up on a NSX. I like the NSX alot but its just not that practical price wise.

Now that I think about it, the rear end of the NSX does look like a Accord. The older ones at least. I was never really that much a fan of their looks, but eh, thats just me.

You're kidding me, right?
I wasn't kidding bud, every time I see one I think accord... and heres why. I'm not going to tell you what you should think but you sould see the similarity at least.
http://www.import-heaven.net/images/specs/acura_nsx_02b.jpg
http://re2.mm-a.yimg.com/image/290782871

I'll let you figure out which is the accord.

yup, i've also been one to never like the looks of the nsx. not to mention that yes, for a supercar its extremely underpowered and quite slow compared to other supercars out there. 30k for an nsx, you'd have to be mad in my opinion :icon16: And yes, the rear end has always reminded me too of an accord...sad but true.

i'd take it for 30 grand, i like the looks, i like the speed and i like the interior, and i also love the handling.

13.4 isn't bad at all for 30,000. looks way better than the sti or evo imo, and it kills both in interior.

i think the handling is a throw up, just because they have awd doesn't mean they handle better.

oh and on the freeway they would kill a sti or evo, wich is were i do most of my racing anyway

13.4 isn't bad for $30,000...but it is for $90,000. That's a used car. For $30,000 you can get a brand new comparable car. but hell...$30,000...I'd have me an 04 cobra. but that's just me.

Mine's only 8.8lb/hp...that's with me in the truck...oh, and that's at the wheels :grinyes:
7lb/hp without me in the truck and at the crank :ylsuper:

Is that too much? :eek7:

Nah

Is it too much power? As long as you can deal with it, then no
Is it overkill? Yes

My daily driver is 11 lbs/hp at the crank, and it's more than is really useful on a daily basis.

If the truck is used for towing, that's a different story, but I wouldn't consider a truck towing as a daily driver.

My Z is sitting at about 7:1 ratio...

I can turn down the bosot and it's fine to drive, even in extreme rain conditions.

I can turn down the bosot.

the bosot? is that a new mod?





















:biggrin:

Uhhh... no..... stock option....:eek7:



Duh Idiot!



:D

Agreed. NSX is outdated and underpowered. For 80k i could have a Elise built and sent to me and use the other 40k for lower end Mercedes or save up a few more green bags and get a base modle C6.
for 30K id go for a VR4 and mod it or 2nd gen Rx-7 and drop a 13BTT in it then do some slight mods to it. 250whp can easily be extraceted from thoes 13B's on stock turbos (since after all they are just under 240 flywheel stock) i like the look of the NSX but the old mid engine V-TEC supercar from the early 90's is out of date. Now if i could get my hands on an old Honda NSX id buy it for the rarety in the US factory.

Is it too much power? As long as you can deal with it, then no
Is it overkill? Yes

My daily driver is 11 lbs/hp at the crank, and it's more than is really useful on a daily basis.

If the truck is used for towing, that's a different story, but I wouldn't consider a truck towing as a daily driver.
Yeah, it's overkill, but I have no problems merging :iceslolan

I guess too much power in my car is when I can't get traction at any speed. And that isn't too far out.

Signs you have too much power.
-You can run air tools off of your Super/Turbocharger
-Your turbo displaces more air then your engine's cylenders.
-You dont spool untill 4,000+ RPM
-Your Select "other" is scared of your car
-You are scared of your car
-The police have a mug shot of your car posted in all squad cars
-Police dont pull you over, they know they have no chance
-You brake traction untill you put it into overdrive
-You canstart the car off in overdrive
-Your clutch wears out faster than your oil
-You cant hold traction in the rain
-You run the 1/4mile in times compareable to that of the outlaw class
-Your domestic has a 0-60 better than an enzo ferrari
-Upon lineing up with a ferrari at a red light the ferrari backs down
-Ricers talk shit about your car about how they smoked you like you where a freshly rolled roach but will never line 'em up.
-You stripped your stereo and rear seat out to drop your power to weight ratio below 5:1
-You cant drive further than 50 miles from the track, 7/11 dont sell 110octane
-You speak with your right foot and hand....

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what the fuck is that supposed to mean??
:screwy: :confused: :screwy: :confused:

:bananasmi

Its a joke... guess you didnt see the movie.

Everyone told me it was a horribly homosexual movie who's humor was based on pure imatureity, puns, and with an over all bad basis. From what I've read the movie has no solid plot and other than the commercials MTV plays over and over there is a lack of good humor. Alot of the commercials MTV plays over and over arent even that funny. Ipersonally wont waste my own money. But if i do have the chance i will watch the movie. However, from what all of the idiot freshmen at my school do over and over "Hey Napolian can i have some of your tots?" "No im hungry" (squashes tater tots in his pocket) it doesnt look very funny if you know what good humor is.

thats why its funny

I got it, and it was funny.

oh i get the picture, i dont get why people like the movie from what ive heard.

Understood, people like different stuff and its hard to describe the particular type of humor that it exploits.

i thought it was funny in a weird way

Exactally... Well theres a bit more to it.

O now i get it...

I thought the "God!" was part of the same sentence.

And I thought it was damn funny, just in a weird way