Engine ideas?????

Hey i have a zx3 focus but my engine sucks balls and i want to upgrade like faster than an svt but i dont no what kind of engine any ideas would help

just adding my friend wanted me to put in a 2jz gte in my focus but i was like fuck that and shit

OK...there's a shit load of stuff you can do to the engine. Look around the forums to get some ideas for bolt-ons. You said you want to make it faster then a ZX3, but you didn't say if you want to do it just with bolt-ons or not, but go and check out www.steedafocus.com, or http://focussport.com/index.htm for some good bolt-ons. You basically asked a question that has unlimited answers, so get ready for a hell of a lot of ways to get what you want.

jackson racing makes a hella cool supercharger for the ztech.

check out www.focussport.com

i want to do bolt ons but i want to upgrade my engine so it would be faster for a bigger turbo

All those sites should be fine for you then. Steeda just released a new turbo kit for the Focus, and like castback said, Jackson has a supercharger kit.

yea my friend just said i should throw a sti engine in that hoe and it would run sweet

lol ok sti sure lol

what do you think about a Ej20 or a jdm ej200

Personally, I don't really like mixing motor manufacturers with chassis manufacturers, but it's your decision. You'd probably have a hell of a time getting it to fit since it's a pretty low motor, plus the fact that you'd have to stiffen the chassis significantly to add a rear diff...I think it would be almost impossible to make it FWD; you'd either have to go RWD, or AWD. If you have the money and or time, then go for it, but it's a hell of a lot of work.

lol i thougt all those engine swap ideas were jokes

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why dont you save yourself the headaches of swapping in a different motor that will cost you SO much more money after modifying the subframe, motor mounts, transmission, axles, etc. The zetec is more than capable of putting out 500 hp. I would throw in some stronger rods and lower compression pistons, and look into buying a turbo kit from Turbo Tom who currently is running 11s on his focus.

http://www.focus-power.com/view.php?showme=Home

yeah and out of 4 known tuned zx2's only 1 is running. Untill that number goes up, good w/ foci or not i dont trust him.

Beating a SVT can easily be done.

Chip
70mm MAF Kit
24 lb injectors(required at this power level)
TB
Ported 2000 intake manifold
Crane/FR St 2 cams
Cam gears (tuned)
Race header
Free flowing exhaust including flex

For the intake, I prefer a combination Iceman upper cut to use the 70 mm MAF and shield with the Iceman lower. You'll need the 24 lb because the stock 18.7 lb injector will then be running around 90% duty cycle.

Properly tuned this should you you to around 150 whp/ 155wtq.
You'll be at the same hp level, but with far more tq. And that'll kill any SVT Focus and many other cars.

Everything can later be used with a turbo. Have the chip burned to 24 lb injector, not the MAF. They can do that. Then later the MAF can be tuned to any level injector for the turbo along with a chip reflash. The cams are great in the mid range and will only add to the power of a turbo.

As for turbos, you can easily make your own kit and have someone else do the tuning and get better results and not spend $5000. A little GT28R has produced around 270 whp on a Zetec. At that power level traction is a huge issue. Burn outs at 80 mph are very easy. Precession turbo's kit produces 220 whp with 91 oct gas. Tom's makes 220 whp with 93 oct. And Tom's big numbers are from using race gas.
Just look at the numbers, they don't lie.

Also I would look at a mild, and I mean MILD port job on the head. Just cleaning up the flow is all that's required for a turbo. Also look into ARP head studs, main studs and rod bolts. Easy to do with the car is apart. New pistons and connecting rods I do not believe are required unless the motor has seen a lot of abuse or your looking for over 300 whp.

Anything else just ask.

i forgot about the COSWORTH STAGE 1&2!
you should do that. the first stage is a little over 1k

or do you have a zetec?

another reason why duratec owns
www.cosworth.com

Beating a SVT can easily be done.

70mm MAF Kit
24 lb injectors(required at this power level)



why is a 70mm MAF and 24 lb injectors even considered on a n/a setup? The 19lb Ford injectors are good for about 220 whp. Stick with the stock injectors and MAF (since you wont be exceeding its flow capabilities either) and just get it dyno tuned. If your looking into forced induction, then I would look into a bigger MAF and injectors, but for a NA setup, this is overkill. Btw, if you are looking into upgrading MAFs for FI, stay with a Ford product like a MAF lightning. Stay away from Pro-M and Pro Flow.

i'd say a mustang maf

2.3l owns? lol then why are most stock 2.3's turning the same times as ZX2's lol

why is a 70mm MAF and 24 lb injectors even considered on a n/a setup? The 19lb Ford injectors are good for about 220 whp. Stick with the stock injectors and MAF (since you wont be exceeding its flow capabilities either) and just get it dyno tuned. If your looking into forced induction, then I would look into a bigger MAF and injectors, but for a NA setup, this is overkill. Btw, if you are looking into upgrading MAFs for FI, stay with a Ford product like a MAF lightning. Stay away from Pro-M and Pro Flow.

Have you done it?? I have. The injectors are not quite 19s. Since the computer controls the fuel pressure, raising that is not the prefered method. I know of atleast two others that have done this and 24s ARE required. All had the nearly same mods, except one had the head milled for higher compression. Funny how we all had to go with larger injectors because we were hitting 80-90% duty cycle. Only the form of intake was different. It's also funny how the SVT requires larger injectors AND has a higher flowing fuel pump... Yet doesn't produce that kind of power.
Stock MAF will be gone when he goes with a turbo and will not flow more. If your headed in that direction, it is a worth the price. I have never had any issues with any Pro-Flow products. Look at how many Mustangs swear by them. But you could always ask your tuner.

If your headed in that direction, it is a worth the price. I have never had any issues with any Pro-Flow products. Look at how many Mustangs swear by them. But you could always ask your tuner.

For simplicity sake, its recommended to go with Ford MAF. For example, the Lightning MAF has one MAF transfer function, making it much easier for tuning. Not to mention, every Ford MAF of the same model, is built very closely to spec, so the maf transfer function is going to be pretty accurate. My 80mm Pro-M MAF that I had was complete junk that the "guessed" transfer function that comes with it, was completely off. The tuner that tuned my car, was the creator of the Superchip software.

i am rolling with a zetec of course

I had my Pro-M MAF tuned for stock injectors. Then tuned a chip to run the 24s and now have the same MAF recalibrated to run 55s. It has worked flawlessly.

On that note, I will say that I have heard people have had issues with them. But that has been more of a hit or miss type of thing and only dependant on the individual MAFs. Having the shop send it back for a completely different/new MAF has always solved the issues. That has happened to a Focus owner and a Mustang owner, that I know of. Both had the shop get new MAFs overnighted to them. My own unit, I handed and had it handed back to me straight from Pro-Flow.(Great to be a local) Tuner called and got it rushed... So I can't complain.
But he should really ask the person who'll be doing the tuning. They're the person who will have to work with it.

Oh, and mine is no longer chipped. Reflashed by a Ford engineer. :lol2: Who didn't see that coming?
He had no issues with the Pro-M's calibrations. They were spot on.

First off, the things mentioned are great setups and parts for both zetec and duratec, since you have zetec, look for parts for that engine, the d-power series from cosworth is for the duratec engine, so that takes care of that. Vortech makes the best supercharger right now for the zetec, and as for turbochargers, i'm still lookin around but if your car is '02 and older than go with Precision since they use Garrett turbos. Stuff like like heads, etc. look at Ford Racing Performance Parts for all your engines needs. They have it all and it is based on your model engine plus its from a company that has a rich history in racing, so you know the parts will hold up to a lot of abuse.

Ford Racing is WAY over priced, they dont even make like 4/5 of their stuff they have other places make it and just slap FR on it and charge more money.

Examples:
Esslinger CamGear = $89.00
Ford Racing CamGear = $135.00

Ess. UDP kit = $89.00
FR UDP kit = $119.00

both parts are the EXACT SAME, the FR part is MADE by Esslinger, so is the FR UDP kit.

Price around dont just buy FR because its by Ford

zx2srdotnet, you have to realize that you get what you pay for in this business, and Ford Racing has great stuff. Yes, they have parts from aftermarket companies like K&W Suspension, but thats because they do business with them, they don't "slap" FRPP on another companies products, they just sale them in their catalogs.

errrr WRONG, look at a FR and esslinger cam gear side by side they are the exact same part, the difference being ford painted it blue and put FR on it, the same with the UDP, both parts are MANUFACTUREED BY ESSLINGER. Ford just puts FR on them and sells them for a premium.

want proof? even LOOK at the Esslinger cam gear and the FR camgears. What do you think they look EXACTLY THE SAME on accident, then the FR UDP HAPPENS to look and weigth the exact same as the Esslinger udp?

UDP: http://www.mcnewsautomotive.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=mcnew&Category_Code=UDP
CamGears:http://www.mcnewsautomotive.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=mcnew&Category_Code=CAM


Its a know fact that the FR UDP and camgears are just Esslinger gears relabled. Which is why no one actually buys the FR udp/CG, they can get the EXACT same part for cheaper.

But AF/X has the best UDP anyway. lol

wow, I never realized that. I doubt that Ford is the only auto manufacturer that has done that though.

didnt say they were, im just saying that look for teh lowest price, it doesnt matter where you get it the part will perform the same

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