Renaming The USA
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twospirits
01-08-2005, 06:01 PM
I'm curious, has anyone ever noticed that the USA doesn't really have a name to/for itself. (Reson I ask is cause I was watching a documentary of nations)
Case in point, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, etc, they have individual states/provinces and are united under one nation but they actually have a name. The United States of America is also, but never actually choose a name. It stayed calling itself the USA. Are we really calling ourselves an action/activity/description of what we are, but not an actual name?
This brings up another question, what do you call its citizens?
Canadians are from Canada, Mexicans are from Mexico, yet Americans are from the USA. But technically so are Canadians, Mexicans, Costa Ricans, Brazilians etc since they reside in North, Central and South America.
Therefore, while it may never happen nor can we go back in time and make the forefathers of the USA choose a name for itself, I ask, what do you think the USA should be called if it ever were to be called anything else?
TS out
Case in point, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, etc, they have individual states/provinces and are united under one nation but they actually have a name. The United States of America is also, but never actually choose a name. It stayed calling itself the USA. Are we really calling ourselves an action/activity/description of what we are, but not an actual name?
This brings up another question, what do you call its citizens?
Canadians are from Canada, Mexicans are from Mexico, yet Americans are from the USA. But technically so are Canadians, Mexicans, Costa Ricans, Brazilians etc since they reside in North, Central and South America.
Therefore, while it may never happen nor can we go back in time and make the forefathers of the USA choose a name for itself, I ask, what do you think the USA should be called if it ever were to be called anything else?
TS out
Toksin
01-08-2005, 06:10 PM
Americaland!
:D:D:D:D:D
:D:D:D:D:D
YogsVR4
01-08-2005, 06:30 PM
I think when people here 'Americans' they first think of the citizens of the USA. In the same way that people here the term 'Asians' and immediately think of the folks in south east Asia. Though everyone in the hemisphere is technically an 'American' in the same way people from Asia are all 'Asians'.
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Muscletang
01-08-2005, 06:53 PM
Don't you guys watch the Simpsons? Bart named our country "Bonerland." With presidents like Bill Clinton, I think it fits rather nicely.
twospirits
01-08-2005, 07:21 PM
Seriously, guys, I can't think of anything, but Americaland? Bonerland?. :lol:
It should of been called Columbia since it was Columbus that came over. But come to think about it, Leif Ericson was here first. hmmm Leiferica sounds too ponographic. Damn, now I know why the forefathers never choose a name.
Anyone else want to give it a try.
TS out
It should of been called Columbia since it was Columbus that came over. But come to think about it, Leif Ericson was here first. hmmm Leiferica sounds too ponographic. Damn, now I know why the forefathers never choose a name.
Anyone else want to give it a try.
TS out
mellowboy
01-08-2005, 07:32 PM
Umm its called United States :confused:
thegladhatter
01-08-2005, 09:55 PM
United States of the Offended
Moppie
01-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Iv always called it America.
Its a nation at the southern end of the North American continent, made up of 50 member states.
USA refers to the 50 states that make up America, hence United states OF America.
There certianly isn't another country that I can think of with that name.
Its a nation at the southern end of the North American continent, made up of 50 member states.
USA refers to the 50 states that make up America, hence United states OF America.
There certianly isn't another country that I can think of with that name.
KustmAce
01-08-2005, 10:14 PM
Capitalictica
GTR2b
01-08-2005, 10:23 PM
Peoplewithtoomuchtimeontheirhands-erica.
twospirits
01-08-2005, 10:44 PM
Capitalictica:lol:
I like that one. :lol: You folks are too much.
TS out
I like that one. :lol: You folks are too much.
TS out
Heep
01-08-2005, 11:06 PM
I call US citizens Americans. As a Canadian, I'm a Canadian, or a North American, I'm not an American. :)
Are we really calling ourselves an action/activity/description of what we are, but not an actual name?
Actually now that you mention it, USA is quite fitting, as I've observed Americans use descriptions to name almost everything :lol2:
Corn dogs? We call them Pogos. Tissue Paper? Kleenex. Orange Cones? Pylons. Rubber band? An elastic. Coloured Pencils? Pencil Crayons. etc. etc. Just another generalizing observation on my part. :)
Are we really calling ourselves an action/activity/description of what we are, but not an actual name?
Actually now that you mention it, USA is quite fitting, as I've observed Americans use descriptions to name almost everything :lol2:
Corn dogs? We call them Pogos. Tissue Paper? Kleenex. Orange Cones? Pylons. Rubber band? An elastic. Coloured Pencils? Pencil Crayons. etc. etc. Just another generalizing observation on my part. :)
taranaki
01-08-2005, 11:32 PM
Americorp.
Flatrater
01-09-2005, 10:42 AM
Americorp.
Is that a bad thing?
I rather see the government run as a business than the way it is run now. A business is here to make a profit, government isn't making a profit 99% of the time. Most American governments would be closed down they way they run the business.
Is that a bad thing?
I rather see the government run as a business than the way it is run now. A business is here to make a profit, government isn't making a profit 99% of the time. Most American governments would be closed down they way they run the business.
taranaki
01-09-2005, 04:47 PM
Governments exist to protect and serve the population,not to profit from them.
Flatrater
01-09-2005, 07:29 PM
Governments exist to protect and serve the population,not to profit from them.
I agree with you but government mis-management is wasting any real benifit that could be gained. If these politicans ran a business the way they run the government they would be thrown out on the street. Government needs to be more business like with good choices being made.
I agree with you but government mis-management is wasting any real benifit that could be gained. If these politicans ran a business the way they run the government they would be thrown out on the street. Government needs to be more business like with good choices being made.
lickem
01-09-2005, 07:44 PM
business hey, well first off i say we go over to the middle east and get all the oil. wait........
sorry i was just playing into the paranoia of umm people who are paranoid about that.
sorry i was just playing into the paranoia of umm people who are paranoid about that.
TRD2000
01-09-2005, 08:14 PM
It's Interesting, See I Would Never Think Of Calling A Russian Or Iranian Asian. Even Indians Are Indians, Though At Least I Think Of That As In Asia. Even Within The Asian Group I Think Of People As Japanese Or Chinese Or Malaysian Or Whatever...
What Are The Subgroups For America? Canadians, Mexicans, Statians? Gas Statians Perhaps?
The Way It Works At The Moment Is Pretty Weird But I Don't Think It Leads To Too Much Confusion. Although I Try And Make Sure I Talk About "the States" Or The U.s. As Opposed To Talking About America, Especially When They Do Something Stupid.
What Are The Subgroups For America? Canadians, Mexicans, Statians? Gas Statians Perhaps?
The Way It Works At The Moment Is Pretty Weird But I Don't Think It Leads To Too Much Confusion. Although I Try And Make Sure I Talk About "the States" Or The U.s. As Opposed To Talking About America, Especially When They Do Something Stupid.
KustmAce
01-09-2005, 09:02 PM
business hey, well first off i say we go over to the middle east and get all the oil. wait........
hey, oh wait...we already are...
I think America is a slang term giving to this country. I think if anything, the offical name should be the United States, because thats basically what we are. And these United States happen to be in North America. Hence the United States of America. I guess it woul be like saying Mexico of America.
Still like these new ones better though.
hey, oh wait...we already are...
I think America is a slang term giving to this country. I think if anything, the offical name should be the United States, because thats basically what we are. And these United States happen to be in North America. Hence the United States of America. I guess it woul be like saying Mexico of America.
Still like these new ones better though.
Gotti
01-10-2005, 02:29 PM
hey, oh wait...we already are...
I think America is a slang term giving to this country. I think if anything, the offical name should be the United States, because thats basically what we are. And these United States happen to be in North America. Hence the United States of America. I guess it woul be like saying Mexico of America.
Still like these new ones better though.
Yeah but every country has "United States" or "United Provinces" that form a country.
Its the same thing as Canada being called the United Provinces of America
I think America is a slang term giving to this country. I think if anything, the offical name should be the United States, because thats basically what we are. And these United States happen to be in North America. Hence the United States of America. I guess it woul be like saying Mexico of America.
Still like these new ones better though.
Yeah but every country has "United States" or "United Provinces" that form a country.
Its the same thing as Canada being called the United Provinces of America
TRD2000
01-10-2005, 02:36 PM
Mmmm Unfortunately That Means That Even Statians Doesn't Really Work.
To A Degree A Lot Of Countries Are Simply Descriptions Though.
Australia - Southern Land
Nigeria - Black Land
Lots Of Others...
To A Degree A Lot Of Countries Are Simply Descriptions Though.
Australia - Southern Land
Nigeria - Black Land
Lots Of Others...
Heep
01-10-2005, 02:43 PM
Mmmm Unfortunately That Means That Even Statians Doesn't Really Work.
To A Degree A Lot Of Countries Are Simply Descriptions Though.
Australia - Southern Land
Nigeria - Black Land
Lots Of Others...
Canada more or less means "village" :)
In 1535, two Indian Youths told Jacques Cartier about the route to "kanata." They were referring to the village of Stadacona; "kanata" was simply the Huron-Iroquois word for "village" or "settlement." But for want of another name, Cartier used "Canada" to refer not only to Stadacona (the site of present day Quebec City), but also to the entire area subject to its chief, Donnacona. The name was soon applied to a much larger area: maps in 1547 designated everything north of the St. Lawrence River as "Canada."
To A Degree A Lot Of Countries Are Simply Descriptions Though.
Australia - Southern Land
Nigeria - Black Land
Lots Of Others...
Canada more or less means "village" :)
In 1535, two Indian Youths told Jacques Cartier about the route to "kanata." They were referring to the village of Stadacona; "kanata" was simply the Huron-Iroquois word for "village" or "settlement." But for want of another name, Cartier used "Canada" to refer not only to Stadacona (the site of present day Quebec City), but also to the entire area subject to its chief, Donnacona. The name was soon applied to a much larger area: maps in 1547 designated everything north of the St. Lawrence River as "Canada."
Raz_Kaz
01-10-2005, 06:08 PM
Ignoramousia
Robs71Nova
01-13-2005, 01:27 AM
Gilligan
Or Pubertia
Rob
Or Pubertia
Rob
fredjacksonsan
01-13-2005, 01:01 PM
Ignoramica.
Ericssonia. \
. ...................> fight over these two because no one can agree if Leif or Chris was here first.
Columbia. /
Actually, it should probably be a Native American Indian word with an appropriate meaning.
Ericssonia. \
. ...................> fight over these two because no one can agree if Leif or Chris was here first.
Columbia. /
Actually, it should probably be a Native American Indian word with an appropriate meaning.
TRD2000
01-13-2005, 01:55 PM
surely the indigenous people had a name for the region anyway?
you don't wanna just assign a meaning and say it in a native dialect or you'll sound gimmicky and stupid.
you don't wanna just assign a meaning and say it in a native dialect or you'll sound gimmicky and stupid.
fredjacksonsan
01-13-2005, 02:02 PM
Exactly. So any renaming should be done by the people that were here originally. [although there were many different cultures and languages so it may be difficult to come to any agreement]
TRD2000
01-13-2005, 02:10 PM
haha lucky dip? each tribe puts a name in a hat... (it could look like lincolns hat)....
mmm or perhaps they could each nominate their best looking woman and they could jelly wrestle for the title!
mmm or perhaps they could each nominate their best looking woman and they could jelly wrestle for the title!
fredjacksonsan
01-13-2005, 02:21 PM
Some kind of vote
Wrestling? A pay per view extravaganza!!
Wrestling? A pay per view extravaganza!!
PeanutM&MsRgood4u
01-21-2005, 06:56 AM
Just wait, in another 6 months Bush will renames us the United States of Haliburton.
YogsVR4
01-21-2005, 11:56 AM
Just wait, in another 6 months Bush will renames us the United States of Haliburton.
Yeah. Thats just what he'll do. Then he'll rape all the two year olds before feeding them to the sharks. Though, I'm not sure exactly when, but I hear rumor that he's also going to disband congress and give the national parks to the Saudies.
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Yeah. Thats just what he'll do. Then he'll rape all the two year olds before feeding them to the sharks. Though, I'm not sure exactly when, but I hear rumor that he's also going to disband congress and give the national parks to the Saudies.
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DGB454
01-21-2005, 12:58 PM
Exactly. So any renaming should be done by the people that were here originally. [although there were many different cultures and languages so it may be difficult to come to any agreement]
So we should let the native Americans(or should I say the native misnamed countyans) name it?
Is it politically incorrect to call them Indians? I am always confused on that one. If it's OK to call them Indians then maybe we could go back to when C.C. thought he landed in India and call this place India II or India Jr. or maybe New India.
I personally like the name The Empire. Then we could give our wars cool names like "The Empire Strikes Back" .
So we should let the native Americans(or should I say the native misnamed countyans) name it?
Is it politically incorrect to call them Indians? I am always confused on that one. If it's OK to call them Indians then maybe we could go back to when C.C. thought he landed in India and call this place India II or India Jr. or maybe New India.
I personally like the name The Empire. Then we could give our wars cool names like "The Empire Strikes Back" .
Raz_Kaz
01-21-2005, 05:37 PM
I personally like the name The Empire. Then we could give our wars cool names like "The Empire Strikes Back" .
try "The Empire Strikes First", it just seem more realistic.
try "The Empire Strikes First", it just seem more realistic.
Thourun
01-21-2005, 10:05 PM
More like "The Empire Makes Some People So Damn Mad That They Are Willing To Blow Themselves Up Just To Get At US.... Then The Empire Strikes Back"!
My vote is for New Empire.
My vote is for New Empire.
mellowboy
01-21-2005, 10:07 PM
More like "The Empire Makes Some People So Damn Mad That They Are Willing To Blow Themselves Up Just To Get At US.... Then The Empire Strikes Back"!
By what? Attacking a country that has NOTHING TO DO WITH WTC???? :rolleyes:
By what? Attacking a country that has NOTHING TO DO WITH WTC???? :rolleyes:
Thourun
01-21-2005, 10:16 PM
We missed lol. Common I was kidding I don't like the wars either.
twospirits
01-21-2005, 11:45 PM
Okay folks, either get back on topic or this thread will be close. Get with the program people.
TS out
TS out
DGB454
01-22-2005, 08:17 AM
Man....Make a joke and all you people can do is change this thread into the same subject you turn every thread into. Instead of the politics, investments and current affairs forum maybe it should be called the single minded bitching forum.
YogsVR4
01-22-2005, 04:04 PM
Instead of the politics, investments and current affairs forum maybe it should be called the single minded bitching forum.
That has been proposed on a numerous occasions. :iceslolan
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That has been proposed on a numerous occasions. :iceslolan
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PeanutM&MsRgood4u
01-23-2005, 01:46 AM
Man....Make a joke and all you people can do is change this thread into the same subject you turn every thread into. Instead of the politics, investments and current affairs forum maybe it should be called the single minded bitching forum.
"Single Minded Bitching Forum"...... hmmmmm, I think we just got our Country's new name!!!! Give that man a prize
:lol:
"Single Minded Bitching Forum"...... hmmmmm, I think we just got our Country's new name!!!! Give that man a prize
:lol:
SniperX13
02-07-2005, 12:37 AM
Call it Terra.... and we can all be Teratians
-GS-
02-07-2005, 07:44 AM
Just keep it simple "Canada Junior"
Muscletang
02-07-2005, 01:57 PM
Just keep it simple "Canada Junior"
We do have standards.
We do have standards.
Heep
02-07-2005, 02:53 PM
Just keep it simple "Canada Junior"
:lol2:
/me waits for the outrage from Americans who think it's humourous to call Canada "America Junior" but not vice versa...:p
:lol2:
/me waits for the outrage from Americans who think it's humourous to call Canada "America Junior" but not vice versa...:p
YogsVR4
02-07-2005, 03:54 PM
America Jr. - by Homer Simpson.
Perhaps we could be called, Canada Down Under?
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Perhaps we could be called, Canada Down Under?
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Heep
02-07-2005, 04:02 PM
"We're bigger and we're on top. If this were prison, you'd be our bitch."
:p
:p
Muscletang
02-07-2005, 05:54 PM
When it comes to which one should be the other's bitch...
The U.S. has Saturday Night Live and the only thing Canada could come up with was...Kids in the Hall :shakehead , case closed.
The U.S. has Saturday Night Live and the only thing Canada could come up with was...Kids in the Hall :shakehead , case closed.
Heep
02-07-2005, 07:14 PM
When it comes to which one should be the other's bitch...
The U.S. has Saturday Night Live and the only thing Canada could come up with was...Kids in the Hall :shakehead , case closed.
SNL sucks now but used to be good. Kids in the Hall always sucked. Royal Canadian Air Farce is hilarious, This Hour has 22 Minutes is good, Red Green is good (but used to be better), and nothing beats Trailer Park Boys :D
Do you even get any of those in the US? :dunno:
The U.S. has Saturday Night Live and the only thing Canada could come up with was...Kids in the Hall :shakehead , case closed.
SNL sucks now but used to be good. Kids in the Hall always sucked. Royal Canadian Air Farce is hilarious, This Hour has 22 Minutes is good, Red Green is good (but used to be better), and nothing beats Trailer Park Boys :D
Do you even get any of those in the US? :dunno:
Flatrater
02-07-2005, 07:59 PM
SNL sucks now but used to be good. Kids in the Hall always sucked. Royal Canadian Air Farce is hilarious, This Hour has 22 Minutes is good, Red Green is good (but used to be better), and nothing beats Trailer Park Boys :D
Do you even get any of those in the US? :dunno:
Only one I ever seen was Red Green. I'm not going to knock it but it's not my type of humor.
Do you even get any of those in the US? :dunno:
Only one I ever seen was Red Green. I'm not going to knock it but it's not my type of humor.
PeanutM&MsRgood4u
02-08-2005, 02:07 AM
"We're bigger and we're on top. If this were prison, you'd be our bitch."
:p
Estimated Canadian population: 32,119,799
Estimated US population: 281,421,906
What kind of crazy math you got up there where 32,000,000 is bigger than 300,000,000?
Unless your talking about square area. In that case ya, your dirt totally kicks our dirts butt....
:loser:
*pop's taken from:
http://www.statcan.ca/english/edu/clock/population.htm
http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts?_sse=on
:p
Estimated Canadian population: 32,119,799
Estimated US population: 281,421,906
What kind of crazy math you got up there where 32,000,000 is bigger than 300,000,000?
Unless your talking about square area. In that case ya, your dirt totally kicks our dirts butt....
:loser:
*pop's taken from:
http://www.statcan.ca/english/edu/clock/population.htm
http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts?_sse=on
twospirits
02-08-2005, 09:49 AM
Just to recap and put this thread back on track. The names so far that have come up are...
Americaland by Toksin
Bonerland by Muscletang
United States by mellowboy
United States of the Offended by thegladhatter
America by Moppie
Capitalictica by KustmAce
USA by Heep
Americorp by taranaki
Ignoramousia by Raz kaz
Gilligan by Robs71Nova
Any others?
TS out
Americaland by Toksin
Bonerland by Muscletang
United States by mellowboy
United States of the Offended by thegladhatter
America by Moppie
Capitalictica by KustmAce
USA by Heep
Americorp by taranaki
Ignoramousia by Raz kaz
Gilligan by Robs71Nova
Any others?
TS out
Muscletang
02-08-2005, 02:14 PM
Bonerland by Muscletang
Actually Bart Simpson came up with that name but oh well.
Actually Bart Simpson came up with that name but oh well.
YogsVR4
02-08-2005, 05:56 PM
SNL sucks now but used to be good. Kids in the Hall always sucked. Royal Canadian Air Farce is hilarious, This Hour has 22 Minutes is good, Red Green is good (but used to be better), and nothing beats Trailer Park Boys :D
Do you even get any of those in the US? :dunno:
Red Green is a riot :iceslolan
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Do you even get any of those in the US? :dunno:
Red Green is a riot :iceslolan
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Gohan Ryu
02-08-2005, 07:21 PM
1). Amerigo Vespucci is turning over in his grave. Obviously no American History buffs here!
2). Kids in the Hall is hilarious.
3). SNL sucks (at least it does now, it was funny years ago).
4). Second City Television rules.
Let's just call our country.....free.
2). Kids in the Hall is hilarious.
3). SNL sucks (at least it does now, it was funny years ago).
4). Second City Television rules.
Let's just call our country.....free.
twospirits
02-08-2005, 07:55 PM
1). Amerigo Vespucci is turning over in his grave. Obviously no American History buffs here!Ummm while I may not be a history buff, I do believe he named the continent America not the country we now know as the USA. Shoot, the USA wasn't even a thought in anyones mind much less Amerigo Vespucci (http://www.studyworld.com/Amerigo_Vespucci.htm)at the time he named it.
TS out (sticking a flag in my back yard and naming it peskyland)
TS out (sticking a flag in my back yard and naming it peskyland)
Flatrater
02-08-2005, 08:33 PM
Just to recap and put this thread back on track. The names so far that have come up are...
Americaland by Toksin
Bonerland by Muscletang
United States by mellowboy
United States of the Offended by thegladhatter
America by Moppie
Capitalictica by KustmAce
USA by Heep
Americorp by taranaki
Ignoramousia by Raz kaz
Gilligan by Robs71Nova
Any others?
TS out
You forgot the Empire!
Americaland by Toksin
Bonerland by Muscletang
United States by mellowboy
United States of the Offended by thegladhatter
America by Moppie
Capitalictica by KustmAce
USA by Heep
Americorp by taranaki
Ignoramousia by Raz kaz
Gilligan by Robs71Nova
Any others?
TS out
You forgot the Empire!
PeanutM&MsRgood4u
02-09-2005, 07:50 AM
I think instead of one specific name companies should be allowed to purchase rights to the name every couple of years or so. Kinda like stadiums (Wrigley field, Safe Co field, Quest Stadium). I don't know about anyone else but I would love to live in "Top Ramenia", or "Ford Motor Country".
twospirits
02-09-2005, 02:24 PM
You forgot the Empire!Actually there are quite a few I forgot to list, oh well.
TS out (fighting the indigenous people of peskyland)
TS out (fighting the indigenous people of peskyland)
fredjacksonsan
02-09-2005, 04:08 PM
The U.S. has Saturday Night Live and the only thing Canada could come up with was...Kids in the Hall :shakehead , case closed.
Lots of SNL people are/were from Canada.
That said, USA is fine. It could stand for:
Usually Sticking nose All over where it doesn't belong.
Lots of SNL people are/were from Canada.
That said, USA is fine. It could stand for:
Usually Sticking nose All over where it doesn't belong.
fredjacksonsan
02-09-2005, 04:09 PM
Peskyland was good, though. :lol2:
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