Get some bass for your buck

Sorry this was supposed to be a reply not a thread but if you have any suggestions on what kind of subs that would maybe need less air to sound better than please feel free to inquire. I bought a sealed box from audio inhancer for two 10" subs to custom fit my 2001 S-10 Extreme, I'm pushing two Pheonix Gold XS series subs witch are pretty much bottom line for P.G. with a 300x2 Pheonix Gold tantrum series amplifier. It pounds hard but Like that other guy said you should find a sub that needs less air to pump them and it will sound even better, you will probably never get bass like you would in a hatchback, but it will amaze you how loud it will get if you get the right components, compared to the right box with the wrong subs.

I've got 10" Thump sub's for my Blazer, although I haven't built a box yet. They only require about a 1 cube foot box.

I think that I only paid 10.00 canadian for them at a discount store.

I have a standard cab. w a custom built box. 2 audiobahn 10s with a 600 watt audiobahn amp. the box is sealed. Im hitting 150db on the winshield. You can do it w/ a small box. In My opinion a smaller box sounds better when its sealed.

My box is pretty small to you can check the specs at www.audioinhancers.com, custom box for a 01 S-10 standard cab I never thought of audiobahn cause every time I've seen one the maginet was huge but thanks for the idea audiobahn's are good speakers I will look into them.

can two 12s fit in the s 10 truck???? I have two sets one a pioneer impp 400 watt 12in(each) sub and the other a 700 watt tornado subs by kenwood(each) I would hate to get rid of them all because there to big ...and by the way I also have a 1000 watt amp to power whatever set I want to use (by kenwood) any good Ideas????

Yes when I bought my box they had custom boxes both for 10" and 12" subs. the only reason I bought the box for the 10"s is cause I had two 10's already but if I was to do it again I would spend the money and get 12's more like my kind of bass. Go to www.audioinhancers.com I think there is an s at the end of inhancer.....but not sure, but check the specs on the 12" box your Kenwood's will probably fit.

Ok I see then based on the specs I would a box for two 12s thanx man but one question how much cubic feet does an extended cab s10 have or in other words the space I would have to work with in order to get two 12s to work right??

My S-10 is a standard cab, but I don't know the cubic ft. in the back of a extended cab but if you have a extended cab you are way better off I would get a bandpass box or a vented box sizes will vary my friend has two 12" MTX 9000's in a MTX vented box in the back of his Ranger extended cab with two 1500 amps given they are some of the best speakers on the market it actually feels like your in the speaker box and when you get out it feels like you had your ear next to a tricked out Camaro's exhaust he is a pretty tall guy and there is still plenty of leg room so if you have an extended cab and want the people in the next county to hear you comin bandpass or vented. But usually people when they put them in their truck or car or whatever want to see the speakers so they face the speakers to where they can see them but thenagain you will here more air than you want to coming out the ports, so sacrifice the looks and put your speakers or ports, facing away from you. good luck and is that your pimp ass Extreme in your photo's........and I can't wait until the new Camaro's come out and walk all over the new "bad ass" Mustang.

My S-10 is a standard cab, but I don't know the cubic ft. in the back of a extended cab but if you have a extended cab you are way better off I would get a bandpass box or a vented box sizes will vary my friend has two 12" MTX 9000's in a MTX vented box in the back of his Ranger extended cab with two 1500 amps given they are some of the best speakers on the market it actually feels like your in the speaker box and when you get out it feels like you had your ear next to a tricked out Camaro's exhaust he is a pretty tall guy and there is still plenty of leg room so if you have an extended cab and want the people in the next county to hear you comin bandpass or vented. But usually people when they put them in their truck or car or whatever want to see the speakers so they face the speakers to where they can see them but thenagain you will here more air than you want to coming out the ports, so sacrifice the looks and put your speakers or ports, facing away from you. good luck and is that your pimp ass Extreme in your photo's........and I can't wait until the new Camaro's come out and walk all over the new "bad ass" Mustang.

NO I wish It was mine I dont have my s 10 extreme yet but I plan on getting one soon when I get the money

i've heard a pair of audiobahn 10's in a standard cab with each getting 800w and they hit harder than my friends pair of 12's (JL audios) go with the audiobahn definitly. i have 2 12's in my hatchback and i am in heaven :biggrin:

Sealed boxes usually do require less air space than ported, and they're a much sharper response. Although most people seem to prefer ported boxxes where I live.

Sealed boxes usually do require less air space than ported, and they're a much sharper response. Although most people seem to prefer ported boxxes where I live.

interesting where I live people love to have sealed boxes

sealed boxes i've heard all sound better

Sealed boxes do sound good, but if you want to win a competition........."VENTED"

by that you mean having a port holes?? I have two hatch back boxes with port holes on the sides that came with my impp 400w pioneer subs they were good but when my friend gave me his sealed box the subs seemed more boomey to me

You can pull more power from your amp with a sealed box and it is louder. But the vented box will hit lower notes. I guess it just depends what you want. Maybee it would be cool to have both?

every comp. i've been to a sealed box always blows away ported, just my opinion, it's preference i guess

Vented is not ported, inside a ported box it goes speakers and then a little space and then the ports. A Vented box is made with traps so that the air is kept in the box for longer kinda like a maze and pretty much when the air comes out the port notice "One port" it pretty much explodes. Ask any proffesional what is better a sealed box or a vented box not dogin sealed boxes, I have a sealed box but if I had the money I would buy a vented box for my truck and like that other guy said its all in what you prefer..........But there is a huge difference in a Ported box and a Vented box

dblthebass was that your opinion or did the sealed box's actually blow away the ported box's in those competition's you went to?

You can pull more power from your amp with a sealed box and it is louder. But the vented box will hit lower notes. I guess it just depends what you want. Maybee it would be cool to have both?
I would really like to know how using sealed will pull more power? :screwy: I was told that sealed takes more power than a ported,but sealed will be tighter than a ported.

they actually won, sealed boxes always sound better was what i ment by it's a matter of opinion

You can pull more power from your amp with a sealed box and it is louder. But the vented box will hit lower notes. I guess it just depends what you want. Maybee it would be cool to have both?

It would sure look tacky unless you had 1 box built that could somehow blend them both together and looked uniform.

it might just work though

Well it doesnt actually pull more power. If you comapare two identical subs and amps at the same power rateing, the sealed box would be louder. I used to have two kicker comp vr 12's and a 240 watt kicker amp. Doesnt sound like much but i was hitting 141 db. There where some guys at the same competition that had way more speakers than i did and a couple thousand watt amps with vented, ported, bandpass boxes. Some of them only hit 145 db. Thats why i think sealed is the fail safe way to go...

Maybe I need to up my ampage and get better speakers to improve my bass, cause my friends two ten's in a vented box with a shity amp and two Memphis subs "old school but good subs" makes mine weak any suggestions on amp and sub my sealed box is small so I don't have a lot of space for a big maginet?

This has nothing to do with what we are talking about. But last night I had a dream, I don't remember alot of it but I had two square subs and in the middle they where orange pot leafs and the box was like 3" thick and had no slop just a rectangular shaped box. Sorry just thought I would share the weirdness.

This has nothing to do with what we are talking about. But last night I had a dream, I don't remember alot of it but I had two square subs and in the middle they where orange pot leafs and the box was like 3" thick and had no slop just a rectangular shaped box. Sorry just thought I would share the weirdness.



Thats funny!!! I have two L7 10's. They sound great but i think you would have trouble fitting them. They have a big magnent. Maybee you could fit some 8 inch squares back there. They use less air space than a round sub so you can make a smaller box. The 8's would sound good. My square 10's are louder than the round 12's i used to have.

dblthebass, You should stop talking out of your ass to the people. I have built a vented box for my freinds 01 ext single cab, with a walmart sub and smoke you with a sealed L7 just to use the L7 as a good sub to compete with. Just don't tell people things that you do not know for a fact! I had worked at a Audio Xpert in Las Vegas and we held comps and sold and made most of the systems that won. Guess what not one of them had a sealed box. You could not pay for one of the amps it would take to push a sub in a sealed box enough to come close to placing. A vented box makes it so the sub that you have can produce more sound with much less strain. So a good sub like a 15 in a SLOT VENTED box will be able to produce much higher SPL so STFU!!!

That would be very interesting to see a walmart sub smoke an L7. I guess pigs are flying now?

dblthebass, You should stop talking out of your ass to the people. I have built a vented box for my freinds 01 ext single cab, with a walmart sub and smoke you with a sealed L7 just to use the L7 as a good sub to compete with. Just don't tell people things that you do not know for a fact! I had worked at a Audio Xpert in Las Vegas and we held comps and sold and made most of the systems that won. Guess what not one of them had a sealed box. You could not pay for one of the amps it would take to push a sub in a sealed box enough to come close to placing. A vented box makes it so the sub that you have can produce more sound with much less strain. So a good sub like a 15 in a SLOT VENTED box will be able to produce much higher SPL so STFU!!!
Thank you!This guy doesn't get.Take for examaple.You have 200 watts and a 12in. sub.Put that sub in a sealed and it will hit very tight,on the other hand take a ported or vented with the same stuff and it will hit lower and louder. :2cents:

Hi guys,
I don't really know anything about the physics of speakerboxes and whatnot, but I thought I'd give you a pic of mine...

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/240769boombox.JPG

It is hard to see from the pic, but it is fully sealed by the lexan and rubber gasket in front of the speaker, but it has holes in the top behind the speaker. It's almost like someone tried to do that mix of sealed/ported box.

I have a somewhat cheap GMX-962 pioneer amp, but this thing sounds crisper and louder than my friends rockford fosgate with JL audio speaker and angled at eachother red velvet speaker box. My speakers are oldschool jbls, and I say oldschool because I haven't seen them anywhere else.

The subharmonic range on these things is amazing.

Hi guys,
I don't really know anything about the physics of speakerboxes and whatnot, but I thought I'd give you a pic of mine...

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/240769boombox.JPG

It is hard to see from the pic, but it is fully sealed by the lexan and rubber gasket in front of the speaker, but it has holes in the top behind the speaker. It's almost like someone tried to do that mix of sealed/ported box.

I have a somewhat cheap GMX-962 pioneer amp, but this thing sounds crisper and louder than my friends rockford fosgate with JL audio speaker and angled at eachother red velvet speaker box. My speakers are oldschool jbls, and I say oldschool because I haven't seen them anywhere else.

The subharmonic range on these things is amazing.
What you have is a bandpass box.These have been around for a long time.The problem with bandpass boxes are their size,big.They will not fit in a standard cab S10.

That thing is heavy too. It's sitting in my room because I need the trunk space.

Sorry about the lack of space thing.

Have you guys done anything cool to modify your door speakers? I've seen people relocate their speakers to the upper square, and I've seen people custom whole new doorpanels.

Also, what size speakers are best for the doors?

That thing is heavy too. It's sitting in my room because I need the trunk space.

Sorry about the lack of space thing.

Have you guys done anything cool to modify your door speakers? I've seen people relocate their speakers to the upper square, and I've seen people custom whole new doorpanels.

Also, what size speakers are best for the doors?

I used to custom make my own door panels with wall paneling, sometimes fiberglass, or bondo, 3M spray adhesive fabric and thin padding.

I'd trace the factory panel onto the wall paneling, and go from there.

I prefered cutting a section off the origional door panels, and tracing that onto some nice board... cutting it out, and then doing some router work. Then I'd strech the fabric over it.

I always had the entire sound system with the exception of the deck completely hidden. Which is probably why I've never had it stolen.

Now I have better things to do, so I just work with the existing speaker holes, and door panels.

Some people put speakers in the kick panels, although I never tried it myself.

Yeah, I've seen kits with the speakers in the doorpanel.

What is "wall panneling"? I assume you don't mean drywall-LOL!

Think of it Chcknugget, Wallpanelling is light, sturdy, affordable, and easy to work with.
Plus it's about the right thickness to start out with for fabricating your own door panels.

If you can, and want buy some door panel kit that everyone else and their dog might have next month go right ahead.

Right now I've got 2 cars in my yard that your lucky enough to find a replacement tire for in any tire store, and there's no way that I could ever hope of finding a door panel kit for either of them.

Yes the easiest would be to use the factory mounting locations.For the S10 check out sig. pics,I cut out the factory grille and used what came with my Alpines.The kick panel mounts are well just as the name says,KICKPANEL.I don't know about you but I don't think it's worth spending money on nice speakers just so your friends can jump in and kick them.

Just a little food for thought. The sub choice is not as important as the box you put the subs in. You can put a $800 W7 in a sealed box and get beat out by someone running a $200 ported box built right.

Audio is 70% install and 30% product. (somewhere around those percentages, proper install oneups products)

Agree to disagree. It has alot to do with the amp. Im running some piece of crap subs on an audiobahn amp and they sound perfect. As far as ported v/s sealed
play alot of rap, want deep hard hitting, and sometimes a little distored bass. go ported
Play alot of rock, want very clear bass tones. go sealed
It just depends on the type of music you listen to, and how much room you have.

Ahem, I will disagree with your statement...To test our seperate theorys, post this on www.caraudio.com.

Later

-Ryan

Ditto with the above/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and actually if you are running a 'Bahn amp then you have crap subs being ran off a crap amp.

People that shop at my place can't get over how well my systems sound over many other places. The biggest difference is that I ALWAYS build a box. You have to build it right. That means you need the right material and build it with specs that closely match the vehicle and the subs.