4agze swapped celica
91 Celica St
01-06-2005, 02:43 PM
i had a project on putting a 4age head on my 4afe, it was a possibility untill the day i decided to go on a mountain run with a few friends and spin a rod bearing while climing a hill.... the car is basicaly undrivable i dont know how it made it home ...
i bought a 4agze outta a toyota levine...ae101/ae92
im gunna use the bottem end and supercharger on the levine...but use the F head on my celica
reasons being
1) supercharger on that thing sucks and robs an assload of tourqe, and we all know F heads give a plentiful supply f tourqe
2)i need this car to be riliable, get DECENT gas mialage (it has a supercharger, nuff said)
3)i HAVE TO pass smog, the new motors head dosent come with and is not set up for an EGR vavle witch is needed to pass smog
everything matches up, i know this from my previous experience with my 4age head i was gunna put on...ALL bolt patterns are the same, exhaust manifold and small port manifolds...i might use the aftermarket G hear i bought and the SMall port non tvis intake manifold i still have but i dont know...as far as everything else goes it should be fairley simple, the tranny i got is a 5 speed LSD tranney so ill be putting that in as well as new half shafts (cost 70 for passenger and 60 for driver, it was somthing like 135 total, ouch) everything put me back around 1200, so far
one problem also is that the 4agze have 7 steam vent "ribs'" to vent excess heat/steam, the F head has none...theres a chance i would crack the block if it ever got really hott...so ill probably need to get a race ready radiator to cool my shit down better
theres only one real problem im having, i have never wroked with asupercharger be4 and that could cause a problem with the swap
thats not as expensive as you think to tell u tha truth
motor+ tranney+ wirering harness(not needed im using f head) and fuel pump - $1200
new half shafts-$130
Already had a walbroh 255PL supra tt pump $150
Need to either use 4agze injectors or get aftermarket $0
buy al new belt witch should be around $100
I need to find a good SAFC fuel contorller (if anyones sees one with lcd screen and is fairely nice PM ME)
As well as get a boost controller...to tell u the truth i will probably need to re chip the ecu to compensate with all the fuel being dumped in there...either that r just use the fuel controller to give it a shit load of more fuel
if anyone has any ?'s or comments or suggestions please feel free to PM me
i bought a 4agze outta a toyota levine...ae101/ae92
im gunna use the bottem end and supercharger on the levine...but use the F head on my celica
reasons being
1) supercharger on that thing sucks and robs an assload of tourqe, and we all know F heads give a plentiful supply f tourqe
2)i need this car to be riliable, get DECENT gas mialage (it has a supercharger, nuff said)
3)i HAVE TO pass smog, the new motors head dosent come with and is not set up for an EGR vavle witch is needed to pass smog
everything matches up, i know this from my previous experience with my 4age head i was gunna put on...ALL bolt patterns are the same, exhaust manifold and small port manifolds...i might use the aftermarket G hear i bought and the SMall port non tvis intake manifold i still have but i dont know...as far as everything else goes it should be fairley simple, the tranny i got is a 5 speed LSD tranney so ill be putting that in as well as new half shafts (cost 70 for passenger and 60 for driver, it was somthing like 135 total, ouch) everything put me back around 1200, so far
one problem also is that the 4agze have 7 steam vent "ribs'" to vent excess heat/steam, the F head has none...theres a chance i would crack the block if it ever got really hott...so ill probably need to get a race ready radiator to cool my shit down better
theres only one real problem im having, i have never wroked with asupercharger be4 and that could cause a problem with the swap
thats not as expensive as you think to tell u tha truth
motor+ tranney+ wirering harness(not needed im using f head) and fuel pump - $1200
new half shafts-$130
Already had a walbroh 255PL supra tt pump $150
Need to either use 4agze injectors or get aftermarket $0
buy al new belt witch should be around $100
I need to find a good SAFC fuel contorller (if anyones sees one with lcd screen and is fairely nice PM ME)
As well as get a boost controller...to tell u the truth i will probably need to re chip the ecu to compensate with all the fuel being dumped in there...either that r just use the fuel controller to give it a shit load of more fuel
if anyone has any ?'s or comments or suggestions please feel free to PM me
91 Celica St
01-13-2005, 01:45 PM
after about a year of being on this tsite i stll dont know how to post pics... haha if someone tell me how to upload the pics ill post pics of the 4agze going in the beast :)
91 Celica St
01-13-2005, 01:46 PM
after about a year of being on this tsite i stll dont know how to post pics... haha if someone tell me how to upload the pics ill post pics of the 4agze going in the beast :)
SigmaProjects
01-14-2005, 01:38 PM
first click on upload image
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then browse
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click on the image you want
copy the link and past it in to the reply
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then browse
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then click on "My Gallery" at the top
click on the image you want
copy the link and past it in to the reply
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91 Celica St
01-14-2005, 08:44 PM
hella excited, gunna go pick up the motor on sunday as long as my buddy dosent get called into work, otherwise ill pick it up myself next weekend....not too thrilled about picking it up in a flatbed truck though, its and hour and 15 minuts of a drive at around 70 miles....time to bring some rope and a tarp
heres the pics from the site i bought it from .....
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/157859i-4a-gze1.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/157859i-4a-gze2.jpg
heres the pics from the site i bought it from .....
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/157859i-4a-gze1.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/157859i-4a-gze2.jpg
SigmaProjects
01-18-2005, 02:59 PM
what? no thank you after all the trouble of making that post to show you how to post pics? j/k :p Nice looking motor and looks really clean. How many miles on it? Can't wait to see the swap :grinyes:
91 Celica St
01-18-2005, 03:08 PM
it had 48,000 kolometers on it so like 30,000 miles on it...my pops isa mechanic and he piched the idea to me of buying aries forged pistons and rebuild it first for crazy boost...i was thinking about it but im using my dads garage at his house so i dont want to take it up for that long so im probably not going to do that even tho i should while its outta the car... he suggested i rebuilt it with AEM stuff
SigmaProjects
01-18-2005, 03:12 PM
nice, that's pretty coo that your dad has some insight on what to do with it :smokin:
91 Celica St
01-18-2005, 03:18 PM
hes the one that pitched the idea in the first place :) i origially when the rod broke was gunna buy a high comp 4age (10.3:1 instead of my 9.3:1) and use th bottem end and my F head...but then he was like why dont u just go all out and buy what you want and not what u need... and scince i had to pay for college classes lately he said hed pitch in some becuase i had helped him out a couple times on his truck and pullin the motor on my moms mustang for him
SigmaProjects
01-18-2005, 03:20 PM
that's pretty nice of him
91 Celica St
01-18-2005, 10:37 PM
yeah...but hes not gunna help me with the swap (dont need anyway) guees im going at this alone when im on the break in february... man i hope i can do it then if not itll have to wait untill spring break witch would blow...
but neways... im realy not happy about driving it back from sacramento, uts about an hour and 15 minuts worth of driving , possibly in the rain, i guess its time to bring a tarp and some rope
but neways... im realy not happy about driving it back from sacramento, uts about an hour and 15 minuts worth of driving , possibly in the rain, i guess its time to bring a tarp and some rope
91 Celica St
02-02-2005, 11:52 AM
oohh gettn time to go poick it up...gay thing is i only get 3 days instaed of the 4 days i thoguht i had to put it in...
not only that i dont think ima get my boost controller in time so ill be running stock boost on a non boost ecu that has a rich air fuel mixture...
haha its tiem to start using 91 octane so the ecu gets ready for it...hahaha im so fucked
not only that i dont think ima get my boost controller in time so ill be running stock boost on a non boost ecu that has a rich air fuel mixture...
haha its tiem to start using 91 octane so the ecu gets ready for it...hahaha im so fucked
SigmaProjects
02-02-2005, 05:13 PM
fun
91 Celica St
02-08-2005, 02:47 PM
haha thats what i said, ahhhhope its done be4 thursday, im hoping theyll call me and tell me its ready by wednesday so i can get it wednesday night and prep it for the weekend... it probably wont be done till thursday tho...hope to god its done by thursday otherwise ill only have 32 days to do it
91 Celica St
02-11-2005, 12:06 AM
those fuckers jewed me....i had a pre arranged meeting to go pick the motor up on thursday, they said it might not be pulled intime becuase they were doing me the favor of puling it outta a front clip and selling it to me as a motor set instead of a front clip...yeah they sold MY front clip..im fucking pissed, the tech reassured me they are getting more in this wednesday
that kills my plan of doing it during a 3 day break, but actually it might be better so i can get my fuel controller and get new wheel bearings
that kills my plan of doing it during a 3 day break, but actually it might be better so i can get my fuel controller and get new wheel bearings
Vip09
02-11-2005, 12:43 AM
those fuckers jewed me....i had a pre arranged meeting to go pick the motor up on thursday, they said it might not be pulled intime becuase they were doing me the favor of puling it outta a front clip and selling it to me as a motor set instead of a front clip...yeah they sold MY front clip..im fucking pissed, the tech reassured me they are getting more in this wednesday
that kills my plan of doing it during a 3 day break, but actually it might be better so i can get my fuel controller and get new wheel bearings
That sucks man.. sounds like you have my luck. I'm finally getting my car back from Toyota tomorrow morning... I've been without it for over a month. :(
that kills my plan of doing it during a 3 day break, but actually it might be better so i can get my fuel controller and get new wheel bearings
That sucks man.. sounds like you have my luck. I'm finally getting my car back from Toyota tomorrow morning... I've been without it for over a month. :(
91 Celica St
02-11-2005, 10:50 PM
straight up...thats hella gay, if the motor wasnt so cheap and close by me ifd go somewhere else...
shit like this happens to me all the time, even with my obx headers they sent me the wrong ones...twice...
pic of the fucked up 2 sensoeer, suposed to beflanged and was a screw in
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/157859headers_small-med.jpg
shit like this happens to me all the time, even with my obx headers they sent me the wrong ones...twice...
pic of the fucked up 2 sensoeer, suposed to beflanged and was a screw in
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/157859headers_small-med.jpg
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