New exhaust system?

Has anybody installed this system on your truck - I want to add it but I thought I better check and see if anybody has had it on theirs? 2003 Ram with 5.7 hemi - 1/2 ton.

http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/cgi-bin/flowmaster/17375.html?id=wT9vj4ax&mv_pc=510

Let me know!

Flowmaster sucks.

Is this a true experience or just some dolt who uses other brands! I'm not looking for opinions I'm looking for experienced users.

What's a dolt?

If you don't know then my question has already been answered!

Okay. I'll pass on information from experiences I've had.

Flowmasters drone. It's something you won't find from any other muffler. It's annoying at certain rpm's, but it's always there. If it's not gurgling then it's droning, and it sounds bad on every system I've ever heard it on. I've heard it on Mustangs, Camaros, Dodge trucks, GM trucks, Ford trucks, you name it and I've heard someone running them on their vehicle. That's only the sound part.

To give you an idea on how restrictive these things are, I'll give you an example concerning my very own truck. My truck has 2 bolts missing on the left side exhaust manifold, they broke off inside. The manifold has pulled away and has a distance about as wide as a hairline in between the head and the one half of the manifold. When idling with no muffler on, you cannot see exhaust come out of there. I stuck one of the 40 series Flowmasters my buddy was about to put on his 4.6 Mustang onto my exhaust, and instantly the exhaust starts to come out of in between the head and manifold. It looked similar to the smoke it makes if you drop water on a hot element, or if something like a piece of plastic is put on it and it starts to burn. It came out so it was noticeable. We took that muffler off and stuck a normal Thrush muffler on it. No exhaust came out. I figured that if the Flowmaster was restrictive enough to make exhaust come out of somewhere that was in excess of 6 feet down the exhaust path, that's got to be bad. If it's not letting exhaust out that fast, then what's it going to do with my gas mileage and performance? It frightens me. I didn't even have tailpipes on, like come on...

I don't like Flowmaster. Maybe sounding bad and buying lots of gas is the cool thing to do these days, but I don't want any part of it.

I started calling people dolts. They don't know what it means.

my 2 cents and personal experience.

I had the flowmaster 50 series on a Tundra , horrible sound and drone. Drove us crazy inside the cab at certain rpms. changed it out to the TRD exhaust, asap.

Ive had the flowmaster 70 series on a 02 Silverado and loved it. The 70 is the quietest and largest flowmaster. Nice rumble, not real loud, no drone at all no annoying sounds in or out the cab on a 5.3 Silverado. I recvd tons of compliments on the sound.

Just talked to a local Dodge dealership and they said most people are requesting the 50 or 70 series Flowmaster on their new trucks.

Im considering exhaust systems myself and was going to be posting the same question here so im glad you did.
Me personaly, if i were choosing Flowmaster I would go 70 series, but I dont like real loud.
But Im looking into others as well depending on what gets recomended here.

here is the definition, i just had to find out.
i kind of like the word. good contribution.
Ill probably be using it a many times today and in the future.



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dolt Audio pronunciation of "dolt" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dlt)n.

A stupid person; a dunce.



Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


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dolt (n) : a person who is not very bright; "The economy, stupid!" [syn: stupid, stupid person, dullard, pudding head, pudden-head, poor fish, pillock]

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

Right on - an educated man! Thanks for the input on the 50 & 70 series. I want to hear it a little on the inside and a lot on the outside.

Just got off the phone with a well known exhaust shop out here. I was told that Flowmaster has made a special muffler for the Hemi trucks because the 40, 50, and 70 series are too loud for alot of people. Thats probably the one in the diagram you posted.

He told me that it would be 25% louder then my chevy was with the 70 series on it.

He rcomended I just stay with the stock exhaust.

hey i have a 99 1500 V8. and i got a "custom" system with jus normal bent pipe...it has a 50 seriers muffler on it and if u want a loud ass truck you could probably do that with it....my friend across the street has an old lincoln and he put a super 40 seris on his car with the muffler jus haning out the back and i can hear him down the street...but hell its ur choice

Go with Magnaflow!

i say go no muffler unless of course you have emissions. In that case then that sucks. My sport sounds awesome, im just running a cat with a straight pipe where the muffler used to be.

Well i found a cheep way to get a exaust. I have the stock 3" exaust off of my Dads 99 diesil on my 01 5.9l gas. Had to fab some parts but it went in with very little work. We also worked around the second O2 sensor and removed the cat. I do not have emissions so i can get away with it. So i have a three inch exaust from the manifolds back. Sounds great not to loud but has a great rumble. Dodgeintheblood

does texas have emmisons?

I just recently had a 3" exaust installed with a flowmaster 50series. Sounds ok but realy not all that.

The installeer wanted to exted the pipe just past the cam and put a turn down on it so I let him. Not sure I like it tho. I wanted a good tone but not the noisy cab so I am going to take it back to him this weekend probably and have him exted the pip to the back of the truck behind the tire like it was. He said that this will quiten up the truck some and keep the good flow. Maybe I need to look into getting some headders to see if this will improve the performace as well.

And 50 series is supposed to be quieter than the 40 series too, right? If you want even less noise, you could try out those new "delta flow" mufflers. They're supposed to have the same effect as the other mufflers but be a little bit quieter.

I know a guy that put dual 40 series delta flows on his 5.3 Chevy, and I was kind of impressed with the sound. It still drones, but to me it sounds like an old car with headers and normal mufflers. It doesn't rap or rattle how I like it to sound, but it's still got some kind of aggressive low tone going on...

yea I will look into them for now I will just extend it out then maybe latr look at changeing.

if its performance you want, go with flowmaster.if its sound, it's a personal choice. i love flowmaster sound. had it on my chevelle. listened to exhaust more that radio!!!

got flow masters like em but jsut to loud need to extend pipe past tire instead of just past cam.

Hello I just posted a thread.
I'll tell ya that the 3" Flowmaster 50 series has a very loud interior noise. I just put this system in on 1/28/05. I would recommend going with a differant muffler because it is just to loud inside the truck... I am taking it to the muffler shop 1/31/05 because it is just to much for me... There is a better responce but it isn't worth the noise... I will let ya know the outcome tomorrow..... But I think that you should hear the Hemi and to sound like a cadillac isn't right for a truck......
To sum it up There are 2 o2 sensors before and 2 o2 sersors after the cats on the 04 rams. So as long as you don't cut them out you don't have to worry about computer problems.......

you could always buy o2 sims and then you wouldnt have to worry about it.

I have 40 Series Flow Masters and All I have to say it Loud Pipes Save Lifes!!! If your too much of a Girly Man to have loud pipes then leave on your stock exhaust!!!

Sorry, Crucial, but for one I've never heard of "lifes" being saved by loud pipes. Also, some people do like to hear their radio every once in awhile, just depends on the person. Not everyone wants their vehicle to sound like the combustion in the engine is actually atom bombs going off.

who started that "loud pipes save lives" shit anyway.I think my truck is fairly loud the only restriction is the cat. But that saying is just stupid.

Apparently crucial thinks everyone should have the same thing. Everything about someones car is personal choice. Which is why i dont see why people rag on someone for their choice of doing things.

Bikers started that slogan with their campaign when people started complaining about bikes barking everywhere. I have a patch that says the same. My cousin goes to Sturgis every year.

I don't understand why people complain when they change their exhaust system and then say it's too loud. I thought the point of putting loud mufflers on was to make some noise right? It's not like someone stole your truck and put exhaust on it and you're a victim. You did it to yourself.

Haha, good one BleedDodge. I mean, it's like firecrackers; don't light a pack and expect to not be able to hear them. On the same note, don't light some and close them in your fist--It is true that it hurts, or so says a buddy of mine. :-P

I think it makes sense. I know guys who just put pipes on because they like how it looks. They keep whatever mufflers they already have, and just have tailpipes made, maybe with boomtubes on them for looks. Just because you have pipes doesn't mean you're stuck with the sound too. Your truck only sounds as good and as loud as the system you have on it.

I can kind of understand that this guy was just looking to make his truck a little bit louder than normal, but not barking loud. The stupid flows are always going to drone at no matter what volume; if you don't hear it you'll feel it anyway, which is probably all that is going on here.

Oh well, exhaust is exhaust. I do realize there's worse things going on in this world than pipes that are too loud.

I’m disappointed in my Fellow automotive enthusiasts. Whats up!!! Putting pipes on your Car/Truck/SUV is for 1st performance and 2nd the the sound!!!

If you guys want to put fake duals, or add an aftermarket exhuast that is no different then the stock. I have a name for your Rides!!! It's called ALL SHOW & NO GO!!! LOL... LOL...LOL...

You can get Mad, but you know I'm Right!!!

Crucial, it'll really be a miracle if you can climb out of the hole you're digging. Yep, performance and sound are big, but so are appearance and attitude of the vehicle. To each his or her own.. Vehicles should reflect their owners: flashy, classy, even reckless. As for your comment about 'All show and no go'.. For one there are such things as speed limits and you've got me thinking that they were meant for you, and that my insurance rate climbs every time someone hands you a key. Also, performance is all great and good.. but it is NOT everything. Gas mileage, etc. count, too

The sound of a Flowmaster system is simply a matter of personal opinion. My brother had a 2001 5.2L 5spd. I want to say he had 40 series on it; but i cant be sure. anyway it sounded great. i never heard a bad comment of any kind.

one thing to keep in mind; dodge trucks are going to be the loudest of any. next comes chevy. any respectable muffler shop will back that up

EVERYBODY SHUT UP!!!!!!! if you want performance first; so be it. if you want looks first, go ahead and put gay ass fake duals on it. whatever floats your boat. But the point of an aftermarket exhaust was originally meant to increase exhaust flow by simply decreasing restriction. the sound is a bi-product that many automotive enthusiasts-including myslef-happen to like and enjoy showing off. so decide whether you want looks, performance, or loud and go for it.

we all know crucial would'nt put on that(performance exhaust)if it didn't sound good too.who's he kidding.anyway i haven't seen any pickups(on) the drag strips lately anyway lol.if you want to go fast you shouldn't bedriving a pick up.

good point

sorry to bring back an old thread, but:
mufflers alone dont make drone...different bends and size pipes and mufflers can contribute to drone...i have flowmaster super 40s(duals) on a chevy 1500 with a 5.3....i have absolutely NO DRONE...ive had straight pipes same truck NO DRONE...its all in the design of the system...
bleeddodge: flowmaster does not suck...and another thing the whole deal you made up about the flowmaster muffler not flowing because the exhaust came out at the hole in your exhaust only when there was a flowmaster on the pipes...thats called backpressure...thats where torque comes from...a little bit of that is good...the thrush had no backpressure.....thats why it flows better...you pick any other muffler, ie magnaflow, flowtech, corsa, anything itll do the exact same thing the flowmaster did...

I agree with you, I just added a super 40 to another car of mine a 75 Olds convertible and it had a little sound to it until I went back and had the shop turn the pipe slightly to the side instead of straight into the payment. The noise went away and it performs and sounds perfect!

Try to find a shop that knows how to properly tune and exhaust system!

I have Flowmasters on every car now and my teenage son says everybody at school wants his sound!

I think it depends on personal preference, I prefer to ge with an orginal that's still made in American not some China village that is powered by oxen.

My red truck has been straightpiped for the past 2 months to save controversy on the street. I like how it sounds as well. As long as I have the tailpipes on to put the sound behind the truck, I can live with the sound level.

5.3 and no drone? I believe you. It doesn't bark either does it?

it did a lil bit with straights but not anymore...smooth powerful and aggressive

A guy I know had a '01 5.3 Silverado that had deltaflow 40 series on it and it would rumble but it was quiet. Reminded me of a old car that had headers and normal mufflers. He eventually took those mufflers off and stuck pipes in the way, but left the cats behind. It sounded real good like that. 4 inch boomtubes coming out the back too, made it resonate pretty good...